"Martial Law" Declared in Arkansas Town

[nimue77]

"Martial Law" Declared in Arkansas Town
24-hour lockdown in effect, residents not allowed to leave their homes

Steve Watson
Monday, August 11, 2008

Areas of a town in Arkansas have been placed under a 24-hour, non-stop curfew described by the mayor as "almost akin to martial law".

The lockdown, issued after a spate of robberies, home invasions and shootings, applies to everyone in Helena-West Helena, no matter what age or what time of day it is.
Mayor James Valley has indicated that the curfew could be extended indefinitely.
Residents have described the lockdown as "like being in jail" and critics have slammed it as unconstitutional given that it effectively suspends the fourth amendment.​

The ACLU of Arkansas has sent Mayor Valley a letter outlining these concerns:
"Imposing house arrest and suspending the Fourth Amendment for law-abiding people is only going to cause more problems for this city," said ACLU of Arkansas staff attorney Holly Dickson. "They need to work with the community to get this resolved instead of treating all of their citizens like criminals."


Watch a report from CNN:



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Such "domestic surges" with police imposing a martial law-style clampdown are now seemingly becoming standard procedure.
There are countless examples in recent months and years of curfews and lockdowns going into place in areas all across the country.
Only two months ago Trinidad, a "troubled" community in northeast D.C., was subject to police checkpoints after a series of shootings.
Earlier this year curfews for minors were introduced in Chicago.
Back in April we reported on the fact that federal law enforcement agencies co-opted sheriffs offices as well state and local police forces in three states for a vast round up operation that one sheriff's deputy described as "martial law training".
The "anti-crime and anti-terrorism initiatives" involving officers from more than 50 federal, state and local agencies was dubbed "Operation Sudden Impact".
Earlier this month presumptive Republican nominee John McCain told the National Urban League that military-style invasions modeled on the surge in Iraq should be adopted to control inner city crime in the U.S.:

McCain: And some of those tactics — you mention the war in Iraq — are like that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them with a stable environment and then they cooperate with law enforcement, etc, etc.


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[JoeContrarian]

Earlier this month presumptive Republican nominee John McCain told the National Urban League that military-style invasions modeled on the surge in Iraq should be adopted to control inner city crime in the U.S.:

McCain: And some of those tactics — you mention the war in Iraq — are like that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them with a stable environment and then they cooperate with law enforcement, etc, etc.

That's exactly right.

:aktion033

 

[nimue77]

That's exactly right.

:aktion033

Why don't you move somewhere where they don't have a constitution and bill of rights? You obviously don't care for the USA's.

 

[SayHeyKid]

This is the new type of "conservatism". A big government police state where the government controls every facet of your life to "protect you". As bad as the left.

Providing a "secure environment" on taxpayers dime, and suspending the constitution to "help the citizens."


Oh i love the government, they just love us so much.

 

[punter]

Remember to shoot the dogs.

 

[JoeContrarian]

Why don't you move somewhere where they don't have a constitution and bill of rights? You obviously don't care for the USA's.

There's nothing unconstitutional about it.

If violent drug gangs are terrorizing neighborhoods, they have a monopoly on the violence within those areas -- as opposed to the peaceful crime-free neighborhood YOU reside in where the STATE has a monopoly on the violence.

Nimue, if hundreds of thousands of innocent folks who live in these ghettos have NO protection, NO security -- they have NO "constitutional rights." Your self-righteous preaching is MEANINGLESS to them.

If children can't leave their homes and go to school or play in the streets for fear of being shot....what kind of 'freedom' do you call THAT? How is the Constitution protecting them? It's meaningless -- Ron Paul flowery theory.

If local police are over their heads, OF COURSE THE MILITARY should be called in to ambush these drug and gang lords! OF COURSE! This should be done all across America -- in EVERY ghetto, until every last one of these scumbags terrorizing innocent people is smoked out and brought to justice.

How do you think Rudy Guiliani cleaned up NYC, nimue? By waving around a MEANINGLESS piece of paper? No, he did it by implementing a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for even the most petty crimes -- graffiti "artists" were arrested and thrown in jail, because Rudy understands (like I do) that small crime is a gateway to LARGE crime.

Ohhhh...but Rudy was a 'fascist.' Yes, liberals, because people can walk around late at night without fear of being mugged, shot or raped, NYC is a 'fascist' city now. hno:

Give me a fucking break! uke1:

 

[TotalRecall]

<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 5640632" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Say Hey Kid</TD><TD class=alt2>This is the new type of "conservatism". A big government police state where the government controls every facet of your life to "protect you". As bad as the left.

Providing a "secure environment" on taxpayers dime, and suspending the constitution to "help the citizens."


Oh i love the government, they just love us so much. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Wait till they come out with THE REAL ID CARD next year which will be chipped and they can track you anywhere. Better yet wait till they put a chip in you.

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Earlier this month presumptive Republican nominee John McCain told the National Urban League that military-style invasions modeled on the surge in Iraq should be adopted to control inner city crime in the U.S.:

McCain: And some of those tactics — you mention the war in Iraq — are like that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them with a stable environment and then they cooperate with law enforcement, etc, etc. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
That's exactly right.

:aktion033 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Its unconstitutional in a free country to do this. Oops- I forgot this isnt a free country anymore. Right Canadian Joe? :finger:

 

[Mistermj]

What is the racial make up of these neighborhoods?

Just askin...:think2:

 

[PointGiven]

well..if they are acting like animals cage em up!

 

[whalewager]

Its all black. It is just a hop skip and jump from Tunica...small town and is a bad bad place to be anything other than balck.

 

[barman]

NIMUE asks Mark: Why don't you move somewhere where they don't have a constitution and bill of rights?

SH: He's already Canadian and merely dreams of being American despite the obvious flaws of living under the US Constitution.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

What is the racial make up of these neighborhoods?

In year 2000, the city was nearly 70% black, so it's probably an accurate assumption that the particular neighborhoods having these problems are 100% black or just a tad below 100%.

Sounds like a good place for gtc08 to settle down at for at least a couple years.

With help from go2guy, the two of them should be able to figure out how to solve the citys problems.

May as well bring barman along, since he can make sure the cops are using proper search & seizure procedures.

Demographics from wikipedia


As of the census<sup id="cite_ref-GR2_2-0" class="reference">[3]</sup> of 2000, there were 6,323 people, 2,312 households, and 1,542 families residing in Helena. The population density was 710.7 people per square mile (274.3/km²). There were 2,710 housing units at an average density of 304.6/sq mi (117.6/km²). The racial makeup of Helena is 30.59% White, 67.93% Black or African American, 0.13% Native American, 0.60% Asian, 0.17% from other races, and 0.59% from two or more races. 0.73% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.


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The place seems to be shitcan central.


:bowl:

 

[barman]

TRECALL correctly notes that it is illegal for the US military to engage in local level law enforcement.

We'll also note that "Rudy" didn't "clean up NYC".

At best he cleaned up portions of Manhattan.

Meanwhile, we can all be confident that illegal drugs are just as easy to score within NYC today as they were prior to Giuliani's term as Mayor.

 

[nhoj]

I thought they did this ever mating season.