Many Iraqis Turn Anger Toward the U.S.

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By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Just days ago, U.S. troops were cheered and kissed as they destroyed the symbols of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s regime. Today, after a week of chaos, it's a whole different story.


After looters ran wild, American forces shot civilians and the lack of basic services spread misery across the land, many Iraqis turned their anger away from Saddam Hussein and toward what they saw as their new oppressor: the United States of America.


"They are aggressors," wheezed Ali Ahmed, 17, lying in a hospital bed as a tube drained fluid from his lungs. "They destroyed us. They put us in war and didn't let us sleep. They just raided Baghdad."


Ahmed said he was shot in the back by an American bullet Friday as he left his home to purchase bread for his family's breakfast. A suicide bomber attacked U.S. troops up the street, and Ahmed accused the Americans of responding with indiscriminate fire.


U.S. troops rolled across the deserts of Iraq (news - web sites) expecting to find people dancing in the streets and cheering their arrival. There was some of that. But there was also anger.


Many Iraqis say that could subside quickly if the Americans — now de facto rulers of their nation — can quickly restore basic services, bring law and order (news - Y! TV) to their cities, and stop shooting their people.


Others say they need to do one more thing: leave.


"If Americans and British are here to destroy the regime and liberate Iraq, we welcome them," said Emad Fadil, a 26-year-old worker in the southern city of Basra. "But if they come to occupy Iraq, we will fight them to the end — like the Palestinians."


On Tuesday, a crowd in the northern city of Mosul allegedly attacked a group of Marines trying to take over a government building. Iraqis threw rocks, hit the Marines with fists and elbows and spat at them, according to Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks at U.S. Central Command in Doha, Qatar.


After reporting incoming fire, the Marines opened fire on the crowd, killing seven people, he said.


On Wednesday, another shooting in Mosul killed three people and wounded at least 11, including several who said American troops fired at them from rooftops. A Marine sergeant near the scene said the Americans were responding to fire from another rooftop.


"They are killing us and no one's talking about it. We want Saddam back," said Zahra Yassin, whose 17-year-old son was shot in the stomach and wounded. "Let the embargo return. At least there was security."


In the city of Kut, southeast of Baghdad, an anti-American cleric took over City Hall. Hundreds of his followers blocked U.S. Marines from entering Tuesday with a message that "there is more than just one leader in the region." The Marines departed, opting against confrontation.


In the southern city of Ur, Shiite Muslims boycotted a meeting to create a postwar government because of U.S. plans to install a retired American general as Iraq's temporary administrator. Thousands protested near the meeting, chanting: "No to America and no to Saddam!"


There have been daily demonstrations in Baghdad as well, many outside the Palestine Hotel, temporary home to hundreds of international journalists and U.S. Marines. Hundreds of people hold up banners demanding the restoration of electricity, water and phone service. Many also urge the Americans to leave town.


Even as people topple statues of Saddam, they criticize the U.S.-led invasion for the death and destruction it wrought, and warn that Americans will become targets unless they fix what they destroyed and leave.


"America comes to destroy Iraq and its people," said Fouad Abdullah Ahmed, 49, part of a rally setting a Saddam statue on fire. "We are Muslim. We don't like the Americans and the British."





Many Iraqis believe the Americans launched the war to seize their oil. In what many in Baghdad consider confirmation of that, one of the first Baghdad buildings seized by U.S. forces was the oil ministry. They are still there.

"Let them take the oil and leave," Mohammed Ramadan said in the northern city of Tikrit, trembling at the sight of American tanks rolling through his city.

Actor Fadel Abbas watched his theater get torched by looters.

"They didn't want to protect these places — only the oil ministry," he said. "Why the oil ministry?"

The U.S. military now says it will work to stop looters. Americans armed newly recruited Iraqi police officers with handguns to help keep order.

Marines and Iraqi police caught about a dozen men trying to loot money from a burned out bank in central Baghdad on Wednesday. Marines wrestled some of the men to the ground — including one who had a prosthetic leg — and found large stacks of Iraqi dinars on them.

Looting that has plagued Iraq's cities has been the cause of much of the people's anger, and many blame the Americans for encouraging it. Donny George, director for research at the Ministry of Antiquities, complained that the Americans let Iraq's museums be sacked.

"This is what the Americans wanted," he said. "They wanted Iraq to lose its history."

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EDITOR'S NOTE — Niko Price is correspondent at large for The Associated Press. AP correspondent Tini Tran in Basra, Iraq, contributed to this report.
 

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I would like the US to make a success of it.

We will soon see whether the will exists, and if they are made of the right stuff.

As predicted, the war was definitely the easy bit in this campaign. Way easier than predicted, which was a relief.

The sting in the tail could be the peace....

WTG USA

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MOSCOW, March 4 (AFP) - More than half of Russians think Joseph Stalin played a positive role in Russian history, according to a new poll published Tuesday on the eve of the Soviet leader's 50th death anniversary.

Fifty-three percent said they thought he played a positive role, while 33 percent said they thought he played a negative role, the All-Russian Center for Public Opinion Research found.
 

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Stalin did play a positive role Frank.
But maybe you dont know that.
 
Joseph Stalin said to be the worst mass murderer of all time, killing 30 million + people. Most of history's tyrants killed foreigners, but Stalin killed his own citizens.
 

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You have to look at the big picture Frank.
Tch. You righties, always crying.
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>You have to look at the big picture Frank

Which is what concerning Stalin?
 

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He dragged a huge serfdom covering nine timezones, kicking and screaming, into the 20th century.

You only have to pick up a book Frank, its not hard, and it can actually be interesting.
From 1890 to 1950 is a hell of a period in Russian History.
 
Russia is still in the 1900s...

He did nothing but murder his "people." But I'm not surprised you are a pro-stalinist.
 

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You far righties, always labelling people. Tch.

He killed a heap of people. Yes...
Is there anything else you know about him?


Did you know that the regime his replaced had a saying for the 'break a leg.' expression used in the west nowadays.
It was 'kill a jew today.'

All you have to do Frank, is pick up a book, and learn about the wonderful life of millions in Czarist Russia.
Heifetz was banned from St Petersburg, because he was a Jew. His talent gave him dispensation, he was allowed to study at the school of music there only because he was unparalleled in his ability.

All you have to do Frank, is pick up a book.

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>always labelling people

eek, you labeled YOURSELF by "Stalin did play a positive role..."

You may have the last word on giving props to Stalin.
 

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You have a bunker mentality FF.
With a big righty flagpole sticking out of it.
No one learns anything if they live in a bunker.

Chill. No one has all the answers, or the world would have gone far right or far left a long time ago.

Have a pleasant holiday/Easter/Passover/whatever, (I'll need you to keep me right on that one FF).

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>Have a pleasant holiday... Easter

(NASB)1 Corinthians 15:14 ...if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain.
 

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eek gets my nomination for lefty of the year.

Stalin killed millions. But he made progress and he was not anti-Semitic, so what we need to do is look at the big picture

Did the Nazis' many contributions to science count? After all, they propelled not just Germany but all of the world ahead in many fields, notably plastics research and rocket technology. Hell, if they hadn't popped a few Jews into a few pressure chambers we'd have never been able to find out how much the human body could take without risky trial-and-error stuff.

Christ, all these years I've failed to look at the big picture regarding the Nazis. I feel like a leftist tool, getting all worked up over that Holocaust thing without once stopping to smell the frickin roses.


Phaedrus
 

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Personally I wouldn't try to justify the murders commited by Stalin, Hilter, Pinochet, or Castro (to mention a few).

However I would also not justify killing of nearly all the peoples indigenous to the land that became the U.S., nor the slaughter of practically defenseless campesinos in the Mexican/American war.
 

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just like the U.S. in Hiroshima. look at how many lives Stalin saved by killing those 30 million people. look at how many people the U.S. saved in the first Golf War by killing 10,000 plus Iraqis. O.K maybe that was a bad example
 

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