former DB Silver subscriber, current G&J gold subscriber
I was with DB Silver for the last 4 years or so; reasonable product for reasonable price. With the 2 min. delay, I was able to get down on the number seen on the screen approximately 70% of the time. The thing I like most about DB was there custormer support. Whenever ANYTHING went wrong, I could ALWAYS get someone on the phone.
By purchasing a multi-monthly pkg. the service was around $93/month. Since I am not a middler/scapler (not that there is anything wrong with that), nor do I look to bet steam games, this was an acceptable alternatitve.
I have been using G&J Gold for 1.5 months now. @ $250/month, it is 1.5 X more expensive than DB Silver, but less than 1/2 the price of DB Gold, what it purports to compete with. I made the switch for 2 reasons:
1. The "quality" of books listed had drastically changed for the better. Before I could only get around 50% of the books I play at on their screen. Now, over 90% of the books I use are on their feed, saving me time when I do my shopping.
2. Software drastically improved. There platform is very stable now and user friendly.
With the G&J Gold, I am able to get down on 100% of the screen numbers I have seen so far. Obviously, this is a marked improvement to DB Silver, but that is not a fair comparison, apples to oranges, so to speak.
The only drawback to G&J so far I have found is customer service, or more specifically, tech support. Two times I had problems getting the software to either load or work properly. This was not durnig "prime wagering hours." But, neither time, I could not get anyone on thie phone to help me. Very frustrating, and, and area they could use some improvement in.
All said, I will be continuing with G&J, in some form or another. I may drop down to Silver (which is priced 33% lower than DB Silver) or may continue with Gold. If I hadn't been on such a bad downswing with my wagers, I would definitely continue with the Gold, lol
I hope this honest 1st hand opinion helps someone who is looking for info on both these fine services.
pp
I was with DB Silver for the last 4 years or so; reasonable product for reasonable price. With the 2 min. delay, I was able to get down on the number seen on the screen approximately 70% of the time. The thing I like most about DB was there custormer support. Whenever ANYTHING went wrong, I could ALWAYS get someone on the phone.
By purchasing a multi-monthly pkg. the service was around $93/month. Since I am not a middler/scapler (not that there is anything wrong with that), nor do I look to bet steam games, this was an acceptable alternatitve.
I have been using G&J Gold for 1.5 months now. @ $250/month, it is 1.5 X more expensive than DB Silver, but less than 1/2 the price of DB Gold, what it purports to compete with. I made the switch for 2 reasons:
1. The "quality" of books listed had drastically changed for the better. Before I could only get around 50% of the books I play at on their screen. Now, over 90% of the books I use are on their feed, saving me time when I do my shopping.
2. Software drastically improved. There platform is very stable now and user friendly.
With the G&J Gold, I am able to get down on 100% of the screen numbers I have seen so far. Obviously, this is a marked improvement to DB Silver, but that is not a fair comparison, apples to oranges, so to speak.
The only drawback to G&J so far I have found is customer service, or more specifically, tech support. Two times I had problems getting the software to either load or work properly. This was not durnig "prime wagering hours." But, neither time, I could not get anyone on thie phone to help me. Very frustrating, and, and area they could use some improvement in.
All said, I will be continuing with G&J, in some form or another. I may drop down to Silver (which is priced 33% lower than DB Silver) or may continue with Gold. If I hadn't been on such a bad downswing with my wagers, I would definitely continue with the Gold, lol
I hope this honest 1st hand opinion helps someone who is looking for info on both these fine services.
pp
I just wanted to say that Mike from G&J has been very helpful and very friendly to talk with by e-mail and by phone.
The line service they offer has IMPROVED 100 % when compared to the old product they put out.
Does it have all the features that DBS Premium has? No, but it's half the price of DBS Premium. Don Best has a great product and they know it, so that's why they charge what they do. I hope with more line services, the monthly pricing would come down. Competition is good and I am all for supporting G&J.
Chalkeater
The line service they offer has IMPROVED 100 % when compared to the old product they put out.
Does it have all the features that DBS Premium has? No, but it's half the price of DBS Premium. Don Best has a great product and they know it, so that's why they charge what they do. I hope with more line services, the monthly pricing would come down. Competition is good and I am all for supporting G&J.
Chalkeater
randyrohm said:
$250 and $69 respectively. Pokher, I am sorry for the downfalls in our customer service. Usually if you call you can talk straight to me. But being as it is baseball about to go into football I have been taking time off here and there to get ready for the rush. I do appreciate the positive review, and I will work on fixing your one complaint. Thanks.
I'd like to try the G and J line service. Could you please send me a trial at Kingofpoke@yahoo.com.
I believe that once Mansion is added to the DB screen, much of the value in their opinionated lines will either be dissipated or steam chased out of them rather swiftly.
But it will definitely make it a very interesting NFL season with Pinny and Mansion both @ 10 cents straddle and the screen providing live data. The days of the sharp guy might be coming back after all...
Is G&J Update pusshing or pulling odds? And if they're pulling... what's the delay.
On a related topic and on the side of free odds, we offer a page that is fully customizable and allows you to keep record of all your bets... and e-wallet we called it... A far cry from live odds a la Don Best.... but a very useful tool for the beginner... the guy that doesn't know what 'steam means'
Hey now, fish gotta come from somehwere, kids....
Walk of Life said:I believe that once Mansion is added to the DB screen, much of the value in their opinionated lines will either be dissipated or steam chased out of them rather swiftly.
But it will definitely make it a very interesting NFL season with Pinny and Mansion both @ 10 cents straddle and the screen providing live data. The days of the sharp guy might be coming back after all...
Is G&J Update pusshing or pulling odds? And if they're pulling... what's the delay.
On a related topic and on the side of free odds, we offer a page that is fully customizable and allows you to keep record of all your bets... and e-wallet we called it... A far cry from live odds a la Don Best.... but a very useful tool for the beginner... the guy that doesn't know what 'steam means'
Hey now, fish gotta come from somehwere, kids....
You ask about the delay. Read the guys post a few up. He says he can get 100% of his numbers he sees on the screen. What does that tell you, is there any better guage than that? We have 0 delay. We are piped right into the books Database, when they change the line, you see it. You can even see them typing the line in if you are watching early enough in the morning.
Choptalk. GJ subscriber here. Heres a list of the books.
5 DIMES
724
ABC
ALL WORLD
BESTLINE
BETCOM
BETDON
BETONLINE
BETPROCESSING
BETUS
BLUEGRASS
BOWMANS
CANBET
CARIB
DSI
EAGLE
FIDELITY
GUARDIAN
HORIZON
ISLANDCASINO
BETJAMAICA
LAS PALMAS
MANSION
MATCHBOOK
MILLENIUM
MYBOOKIE
OASIS
ODDESSA
PLATINUMSB
ROYAL
SBG
WAGERWEB
WORLDBOOKIE
WORLDSPORTCENTER
WWWAGERING
CRIS
PINNACLE
CASCADE
BUCKEYE
GRANDE
HOLLYWOOD
CRIS
OLYMPIC
Bolds are all ya really need...Delmar would be nice, but its still workable.
5 DIMES
724
ABC
ALL WORLD
BESTLINE
BETCOM
BETDON
BETONLINE
BETPROCESSING
BETUS
BLUEGRASS
BOWMANS
CANBET
CARIB
DSI
EAGLE
FIDELITY
GUARDIAN
HORIZON
ISLANDCASINO
BETJAMAICA
LAS PALMAS
MANSION
MATCHBOOK
MILLENIUM
MYBOOKIE
OASIS
ODDESSA
PLATINUMSB
ROYAL
SBG
WAGERWEB
WORLDBOOKIE
WORLDSPORTCENTER
WWWAGERING
CRIS
PINNACLE
CASCADE
BUCKEYE
GRANDE
HOLLYWOOD
CRIS
OLYMPIC
Bolds are all ya really need...Delmar would be nice, but its still workable.
Don Best books
Chop - Here you go:
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ffice:smarttags" /><st1
lace><st1
laceName>ABC</st1laceName> <st1laceType>Islands</st1laceType></st1lace> + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Canbet + Money line, Run line
Cascade + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Catalina + 1st half, Money line, Run line
CRIS + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Excalibur
Grande + 1st half, Money line, Run line
<st1:City><st1lace>Hollywood</st1lace></st1:City> + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Instant Action Sports
Jazz Sportsbook
Mirage
Olympic + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Options Sports
Pinnacle + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Platinum Sports + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Play ASAP + 1st half, Money line, Run line
<st1lace><st1laceName>Rio</st1laceName> <st1laceType>Island</st1laceType></st1lace> + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Skybook
Sportbet
Stardust
Tradewinds + Money line, Run line
WWTS + 1st half, Money line, Run line
5 Dimes
Bet365
<st1lace>Bluegrass</st1lace>
Buckeye Sports
Carib
DSI
Eagle Sports
First Fidelity
Heritage
Intertops
<st1:City><st1lace>Las Palmas</st1lace></st1:City>
Legendz
Loose Lines
My Bookie
WagerWeb
Coming soon -
Mansion
Matchbook
Atlas
choptalk said:
Chop - Here you go:
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ffice:smarttags" /><st1lace><st1laceName>ABC</st1laceName> <st1laceType>Islands</st1laceType></st1lace> + 1st half, Money line, Run lineCanbet + Money line, Run line
Cascade + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Catalina + 1st half, Money line, Run line
CRIS + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Excalibur
Grande + 1st half, Money line, Run line
<st1:City><st1
lace>Hollywood</st1lace></st1:City> + 1st half, Money line, Run lineInstant Action Sports
Jazz Sportsbook
Mirage
Olympic + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Options Sports
Pinnacle + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Platinum Sports + 1st half, Money line, Run line
Play ASAP + 1st half, Money line, Run line
<st1
lace><st1laceName>Rio</st1laceName> <st1laceType>Island</st1laceType></st1lace> + 1st half, Money line, Run lineSkybook
Sportbet
Stardust
Tradewinds + Money line, Run line
WWTS + 1st half, Money line, Run line
5 Dimes
Bet365
<st1
lace>Bluegrass</st1lace>Buckeye Sports
Carib
DSI
Eagle Sports
First Fidelity
Heritage
Intertops
<st1:City><st1
lace>Las Palmas</st1lace></st1:City>Legendz
Loose Lines
My Bookie
WagerWeb
Coming soon -
Mansion
Matchbook
Atlas
