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  • MisterMJ

    Votes: 13 46.4%
  • Kingbill

    Votes: 15 53.6%

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LOL...only a really weak tit would make a thread like this.

Kingbill can't defend himself and his lies...so he panders to a poll on a lib forum.

Oh man...what a twit. Yeah vote for me moonbats. :lol:

Now lets make Kingbill explain why Canadian healthcare is so good that Canadians have to come to Detroit to get care.

C'mon Kingbill...tell us.

Or maybe you lied about it huh? ^^:)
 

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It's cheaper
We have a lower % of GDP spent on healthcare
Our top tax rate is cheaper than the US.
Everyone is covered except for illegal residents
The costs of prescriptions are a lot cheaper.
I can cover a family of 4 for $1200 a year, that gives me 100% coverage. If in a rare case that a canadian has to get a procedure done in the US, the Canadian system covers it.

Now explain why the US system is better? Thats right you can't
 

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It's cheaper
We have a lower % of GDP spent on healthcare
Our top tax rate is cheaper than the US.
Everyone is covered except for illegal residents
The costs of prescriptions are a lot cheaper.
I can cover a family of 4 for $1200 a year, that gives me 100% coverage. If in a rare case that a canadian has to get a procedure done in the US, the Canadian system covers it.

Now explain why the US system is better?

This explains it best...you have to go to the U.S. or die....but Kingbill says it's cheaper! :ohno:

Dany Mercado, a leukemia patient from Kitchener, Ontario, is cancer-free after getting a bone marrow transplant at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute in Detroit.

Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.


http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...VhYmU4N2RjNTM=
 

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This explains it best...you have to go to the U.S. or die....but Kingbill says it's cheaper! :ohno:

Dany Mercado, a leukemia patient from Kitchener, Ontario, is cancer-free after getting a bone marrow transplant at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute in Detroit.

Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.


http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...VhYmU4N2RjNTM=

Still can't answer the question, keep ducking and dodging.

Providing a single anecdote doesn't really prove your point. Not when you are talking about Millions of people and billions of dollar.

It's fine that you aren't intelligent enough to formulate your own responses. Oh and anglefire called they want their blog template back
 

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So KBILL will have to "go to the US for his health care or die"....

Got it

At least with LOREN78 not in the candidate list, Joe Jr should have clear sailing this time as opposed to his disappointing NearMiss for KOY 2008
 

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Pretty cool story about Mercado...Thanks for the link, Joe

The OHIP initially could not approve the funding for him, but upon appeal, they arranged for him to go to Detroit - get the needed transplant and they paid the $200,000 ticket.

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I can only dream that here in the USA if I or one of my loved ones needed a bone marrow transplant, the US government would have a program that assured I received it without any hassle.

:drink:
 

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This explains it best...you have to go to the U.S. or die....but Kingbill says it's cheaper! :ohno:

Dany Mercado, a leukemia patient from Kitchener, Ontario, is cancer-free after getting a bone marrow transplant at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute in Detroit.

Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.


http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...VhYmU4N2RjNTM=

If you want to play anecdotal evidence then here you go
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cigna-corp-in-liver-transplant-coverage-controversy-2007122334300

Family eyes legal action involving Cigna: reports
Insurer denied transplant coverage, then reversed itself, but patient, 17, died


CIGNA Corp Story Quotes Comments Screener (22) Alert Email Print ShareBy MarketWatch
TEL AVIV (MarketWatch) - Cigna decided not to pay for a liver transplant, then reversed itself, but the patient died before the 17-year-old patient could undergo the procedure, the attorney for the patient's family said.

Media reports say the Los Angeles attorney Mark Geragos, representing the family of Nataline Sarkisyan, said he would sue the Philadelphia insurer /quotes/comstock/13*!ci/quotes/nls/ci (CI 29.99, -.00, -0.02%) and would ask the district attorney to press criminal charges as well.

Sarkisyan was diagnosed with leukemia at 14 and received a bone-marrow transplant from her brother a month ago, but complications arose and she needed the transplant, the reports said.

Doctors from the University of California at Los Angeles Medical Center urged Cigna to enable the transplant.

At the same time, doctors quoted in media reports said that such a transplant might be futile because the drugs required to support the procedure could worsen the leukemia.

Cigna had initially said that the transplant was experimental and it would not pay for the procedure. The family and supporters protested, however, and Cigna reversed itself, saying that it would "make an exception in its rare and unusual case," media reports said.

But Sarkisyan's condition worsened and she was taken off life support on Thursday. She died shortly thereafter, the reports said. Cigna issued a statement of condolences to the family.
 

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Anecdotal evidence? Not according to ABC News.

Canadian healthcare is cheap...because it sucks.

You left that part out...just more disinformation from KingBill.

Look for yourself....ABC News Reports on more than just anecdotal evidence.

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So KBILL will have to "go to the US for his health care or die"....

Got it

At least with LOREN78 not in the candidate list, Joe Jr should have clear sailing this time as opposed to his disappointing NearMiss for KOY 2008

Still using an 82 Walkman?....and breaking the Palin divorce should be an easy lock for Kook of the Year...if it's an honest contest.

Barman in a landslide so far....I'm sure we can all agree on that.

The Walkman beat down was bipartisan...and pretty much across the board as I recall.
:103631605


I mean c'mon...still using a walkman? Get out of here...:):)

Barman KOY -140

MJ KOY +120
 

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Hey brother, you're the one who posted in two threads today the inspiring story of the Canadian HIP paying $200,000 for Mr Mercado's bone marrow transplant.

If he was American, he'd be dead
 

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In KingBill we trust.
:toast:

Having said that, when I think liar, I think Bill Clinton.
 

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Hey brother, you're the one who posted in two threads today the inspiring story of the Canadian HIP paying $200,000 for Mr Mercado's bone marrow transplant.

If he was American, he'd be dead

:hahahahah pot kettle :stocker:
 

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It's cheaper
We have a lower % of GDP spent on healthcare
Our top tax rate is cheaper than the US.
Everyone is covered except for illegal residents
The costs of prescriptions are a lot cheaper.
I can cover a family of 4 for $1200 a year, that gives me 100% coverage. If in a rare case that a canadian has to get a procedure done in the US, the Canadian system covers it.

Now explain why the US system is better? Thats right you can't

you cant look at canadas system from a micro viewpoint

the us costs more as a % of gdp because we offer better care

sorry

also americans by their own free will are unhealthy which would require more healthcare, obviously

but preventative health is a personal choice and shouldnt be govt imposed

we do treat illegal immigrants in general, at a cost to the insurance carriers

lastly how many of those cheap prescriptions did canada produce?

its one thing to sell, and distribute and another to research and develop

so I dont think Canada would be in the position to - all the bullets you listed -

without the US
 

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KB… what kind of poll is it when we can’t see who the voters are? :>(

Obviously you want controversy yet it’s a secret ballot.

Grow a set.
 

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KB… what kind of poll is it when we can’t see who the voters are? :>(

Obviously you want controversy yet it’s a secret ballot.

Grow a set.

No that's the thing, I don't want controversy. Just allowing people to voice their opinion in private. Of course it seems like the vote is based on health-care instead of everything else...or MJ has 9 ghost accounts.

Yo tiene Grande Canjones. - The only spanish I've learned so far...
 

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you cant look at canadas system from a micro viewpoint

the us costs more as a % of gdp because we offer better care

sorry

also americans by their own free will are unhealthy which would require more healthcare, obviously

but preventative health is a personal choice and shouldnt be govt imposed

we do treat illegal immigrants in general, at a cost to the insurance carriers

lastly how many of those cheap prescriptions did canada produce?

its one thing to sell, and distribute and another to research and develop

so I dont think Canada would be in the position to - all the bullets you listed -

without the US

Define better care?

Re: Pharmaceuticals, fair enough but wouldn't simple supply and demand dictate a lower cost? The US has a much higher population so obviously more demand.

Obviously Canada owes a lot to the US, the worlds longest undefended border, worlds biggest trading partners etc. I know the US couldn't manage a Canadian style heathcare system...too many interest groups looking out for themselves.

Just curious as things go in the US are you a fan of the status quo, let things run how they are? If not how would you improve it?
 

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No that's the thing, I don't want controversy. Just allowing people to voice their opinion in private. Of course it seems like the vote is based on health-care instead of everything else...or MJ has 9 ghost accounts.

Yo tiene Grande Canjones. - The only spanish I've learned so far...

LOL...you really take the cake. Your own poll blows up on you...and now you insinuate its because I have ghost accounts.

Yet another unsubstantiated lie from a habitual liar.

Your vagina grows more each day....pure Comedy Gold.

:laugh:
 

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not for status quo but I have yet to see any viable "change" proposed by anyone yet

I certainly dont have the answer :103631605

but I know the #1 reason revolutions fail is no plan of doing things better

just a hate for the "status quo"
 

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