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Looking forward to reading the Rolling Stone story. Koch brothers are lower than whale shit...or Gas Bag.

Tue Sep 30, 2014 at 03:06 PM PDT
[h=2]Koch brothers freak out in response to Rolling Stone expose[/h] by Joan McCarterFollow
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David Koch, not holding up well under scrutiny.


Tim Dickinson's fantastic expose of the Koch brothers in the latest issue of Rolling Stone has gotten plenty of attention. For very good reason: it's a well-sourced, deep dive into the very toxic—literally toxic—business that earned the Kochs enough money to buy up an entire political party. That and the wrongful death judgement, six felony and numerous misdemeanor convictions, the tens of millions of dollars in fines, and the trading with Iran are all included in the story, well worth your time. No one has given it more attention, it seems, than the notoriously thin-skinned Kochs. In typical Koch fashion, they don't argue the facts of Dickinson's story. They attack Dickinson, who responds here. Here's the nut of his detailed response.

Koch, in particular, takes umbrage with my reporting practices. For the record: In the weeks prior to publication, beginning September 4th, Rolling Stone attempted to engage Koch Industries in a robust discussion of the issues raised in our reporting. Rolling Stone requested to interview CEO Charles Koch about his company's philosophy of Market Based Management; Ilia Bouchouev, who heads Koch's derivatives trading operations, about the company's trading practices; and top Koch lawyer Mark Holden about the company's significant legal and regulatory history.
The requests to speak to Charles Koch and Bouchouev were simply ignored. Ultimately, only Holden responded on the record, only via e-mail and only after Holden baselessly insinuated that I had been given an "opposition research" document dump from the liberal activist David Brock. (This is false.) From my perspective as a reporter, Koch Industries is the most hostile and paranoid organization I've ever engaged with—and I've reported on Fox News. In a breach of ethics, Koch has also chosen to publish email correspondence characterizing the content of a telephone conversation that was, by Koch's own insistence, strictly off the record. […]
n the main, the Koch responses attempt to re-litigate closed cases — incidents where judges, juries, and, in one case, a Senate Select Committee, have already had a final say. They only muddy waters that have been clarified by a considered legal process.
Dickinson then provides an exhaustive, 14-point taken down of each of the Kochs' complaints about his story, including every instance in which the Kochs do not actually dispute the facts that he has reported, but attempt to obfuscate them and whine about that fact that he reported them. They also don't acknowledge that Dickinson attempted to give them the opportunity to talk to him about his story while reporting, but they refused. The Kochs clearly do not stand up well to close scrutiny, and clearly are not prepared for it. For some reason, probably because they're richer than god, they seem to assume that they should be able to swoop into our political system and attempt to buy it without being subject to close examination. That attitude, along with their long history of abusing people, the environment, and the political system, is doing them no favors. They've made themselves the subject of this election, and if Democrats hold the Senate, it will largely be because the Kochs have made themselves such good enemies.
 

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Has Russ connected the Koch brothers dots?

Those guys are true scumbags
 

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When you're done reading the article you can wipe your ass with that liberal rag of a magazine.
 

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DaFinch is a piece of shit..real life loser. HEY MOM!! MEATLOAF!!!
 

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"They've made themselves the subject of this election, and if Democrats hold the Senate, it will largely be because the Kochs have made themselves such good enemies."

LOL. This hit piece didn't work a year ago to sway the electorate but why not try it again? Idiots.
 

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Liberal Logic 101:

Koch brothers using their own private money to fund the Republican party: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil!

Planned Parenthood using tax payer money and dead baby parts profits to fund the Democrat party: perfectly acceptable

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
 

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Liberal Logic 101:

Koch brothers using their own private money to fund the Republican party: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil!

Planned Parenthood using tax payer money and dead baby parts profits to fund the Democrat party: perfectly acceptable

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


The mascot name "Redskins" is offensive and gets banned in California, but retarded freaks running around in ass-less S&M leather gear smacking each other during a public parade is totally acceptable.

Liberalism is not only a mental disorder, it's a wet blanket cancer on the advancement of society.
 

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Article was written on Tue Sep 30, 2014 at 03:06 PM PDT

The Daily Kos and Rolling Stone magazine, two bastions of undeniable truth in reporting.

Take for example the UVA rape case. Following the publication of the report, Rolling Stone issued a full retraction of the article but said it would not dismiss any personnel responsible for the failure.

Daily Kos writer Joan McCarter

They've made themselves the subject of this election, and if Democrats hold the Senate, it will largely be because the Kochs have made themselves such good enemies.

That was wishful thinking on her part or maybe like most Liberals, she’s just stupid like the OP.
 

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Ha ha...good one vit. Sad but true, there are so many dishonest "journalists" these days it is very sad...a magazine like Rolling Stone doing a hit piece like this would be unheard of when the magazine was great way back when...now everyone has to get involved in political gain and NONE of it is impartial.
 

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If there was a news source that actual dealt in fact and old fashioned journalism, explaining both sides of issues, I'd bet it would do very well.
 

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The mascot name "Redskins" is offensive and gets banned in California, but retarded freaks running around in ass-less S&M leather gear smacking each other during a public parade is totally acceptable.

Liberalism is not only a mental disorder, it's a wet blanket cancer on the advancement of society.

Yes, modern liberalism is definitely cancer - cultural, economic or both.
 

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The mascot name "Redskins" is offensive and gets banned in California, but retarded freaks running around in ass-less S&M leather gear smacking each other during a public parade is totally acceptable.

Liberalism is not only a mental disorder, it's a wet blanket cancer on the advancement of society.

Ya Think?



Sometimes nutty liberals do something so strange, so bizarre, so completely wackadoo that beholding their brazen displays of stupidity will literally leave you speechless.
This is one of those times.
Apparently loony lefties at the University of New Mexico want a new holiday recognized by the school, one that will basically replace Columbus Day, which isn’t even recognized by the institution nor celebrated by anyone on campus.
What’s this new holiday brimming with sugar sweet tolerance and equality?
Indigenous People’s Resistance and Resilience Day.
Nope, I’m not making this up
 

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The mascot name "Redskins" is offensive and gets banned in California, but retarded freaks running around in ass-less S&M leather gear smacking each other during a public parade is totally acceptable.

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He doesn’t have the nickname Moon Beam for nothing.

On Saturday, California Governor Jerry Brown signed Assembly Bill 1461, the New Motor Voter Act, which will automatically register people to vote through the DMV, and could result in illegal aliens voting.

Any person who renewed or secured a driver’s license through the DMV may now register to vote, or choose to opt out of doing so. Because illegal immigrants are now eligible for obtaining driver’s licenses, they could be allowed to vote in elections if the Secretary of State’s office fails to verify their eligibility properly.

Brown and the California Democratic party know exactly what they are doing; as a Public Policy Institute survey showed, among unregistered adults, 49% lean toward the Democratic Party and 22% toward the Republican Party. Any bill permitting illegal immigrants to vote would cement the Democratic Party’s hold on California.
 

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When you're done reading the article you can wipe your ass with that liberal rag of a magazine.

But you can't do that with Spin or Circus or so many other magazines any more. You may not like Rolling Stone, but the free market definitely does
 

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Charles Koch Is Privately Committed To Getting Paul Ryan Nominated In Cleveland: Source

A major investor in the Republican Party sees a chance to snatch back the nomination.


04/04/2016 02:27 pm ET | Updated 48 minutes ago

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House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has publicly denied having any interest in being the Republican nominee for president.

Charles Koch is confident House Speaker Paul Ryan could emerge from the Republican National Convention as the party’s nominee if Donald Trump comes up at least 100 delegates shy, he has told friends privately.
Koch believes Ryan would be a “shoo-in” at a contested convention, should the campaign get to that point. Though Koch’s wealth gives him significant influence within the Republican Party, it does not necessarily translate into skill in political prognostication. Still, he and his brother David are fond of Ryan. As a source close to the brothers told The Huffington Post, they appreciate the agenda he has pursued as speaker, including opposition to tax extenders and heightened warnings against corporate welfare — positions that contrast with the admittedly vague portfolio pushed by Donald Trump.
One source close to Ryan said he would only be interested in it if the party could unite behind him, a scenario he can’t envision. “I don’t know what to tell you? He doesn’t want the nomination. And can you imagine the backlash from the Trump forces if someone who didn’t run for president wins the nomination? It would be complete chaos,” he said.
A second source close to the Koch brothers said he wasn’t aware of a conversation about Ryan, but it didn’t surprise him.
Emails to Charles and David Koch were not returned.
Mark Holden, general counsel for Koch Industries, told HuffPost the claim was “completely false.”
“Let me be clear, we never have advocated for a specific candidate in a presidential primary, and we have no plans to do so now,” Holden said.
People close to Ryan continue to insist publicly that he has no interest in the nomination. And one associate of the speaker said he “guarantees” there has been no conversation with Charles Koch about the possibility, “because Paul has not had any conversation about it. He won’t engage any conversation about it.”

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Despite the repeated denials of interest, speculation about an 11th hour Ryan nomination has only grown louder. Part of it is nervous chatter from Republicans over the prospect of Trump or Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) being the party nominee.
But part of it is driven by Ryan’s own history and by perceptions of politicians in general. It would be strange indeed if the same man who was the Republican nominee for vice president in 2012 — typically the position that is a springboard to the nomination for president — would not accept a shot at the top job. That is especially true considering the weak position in which Democrats find themselves. Hillary Clinton, the party’s likely nominee, has staggeringly high unfavorability numbers, which are only masked by Trump’s even higher unfavorability with everybody other than older white men.
On Monday morning, Mike Allen, writing in Politico’s Playbook, quoted unnamed establishment Republicans talking up Ryan’s chance of claiming the nomination. And in a column Sunday, Republican strategist Alex Castellanos backed off his earlier prediction that Trump had the thing locked down, and used the same figure of 100 votes that Koch has used privately.
f Mr. Trump is one hundred or more votes away from the nomination, it is unlikely he can find the delegates to get the ball in the end zone on the first ballot. He will turn the ball over on downs though nearly at the goal line. (OK, no more sports metaphors.) On the second ballot, he drops 200 or 300 votes or more and starts bleeding. Ultimately, he bleeds to death on the convention floor — which you think would be good news for the candidate in second place, Senator Ted Cruz, unless, of course, you’ve met Senator Ted Cruz.

Cruz, Castellanos argues, is only attractive as an alternative to Trump, and as Trump fades, so does Cruz’s rationale. As attention moves to John Kasich, he adds, the question changes:
If GOP delegates start looking for an alternative to both Trump and Senator Cruz, why settle for Miss Ohio when you could marry Miss America? Why not wipe the slate clean and go for what delegates really want, the Republican Speaker? Former Vice-Presidential candidate Paul Ryan is a larger political figure. He has national experience and appeal. The Speaker has also managed to bring together unruly Republicans in the House, the Capitol’s hotbed of insurrection. Most importantly, he is a fresher face, a new and more promising generation of Republican. He would have a better shot at uniting the Republican Party.
A Ryan associate dismissed the convention scenarios as conspiratorial folly spread by people who’ve watched too much TV drama. “This is where ‘House of Cards’ has totally changed things,” said the associate. Ryan “views himself as a check on the madness. As this Rock of Gibraltar during the chaos. And if he suddenly becomes part of the circus, it is hard for him to play that role.” (It’s unclear whether Charles Koch watches “House of Cards.”)
To that point, there are many serious hurdles that would need to be cleared in order for Ryan to even be in the realm of consideration for the Republican nomination. First and foremost, Trump would have to end up with roughly 1,137 delegates — or 100 short of the necessary 1,237.
The second hurdle is the rules. Under current bylaws, for a candidate to be nominated, he or she must have a majority of the delegate votes in each of at least eight states. That rule, 40(b), can be changed: The Rules Committee would have to suggest an alteration or amendment and then a majority of the delegates who vote at the convention would have to affirm it. But Cruz’s campaign has moved deftly to put allies on the Rules Committee. And it is hard to imagine that both he and Trump would not instruct their delegates (which will very likely constitute a majority when combined) to defeat any effort to undo Rule 40(b), since maintaining the eight-state threshold would limit the potential nominees to just themselves.
“The easiest way for someone like a Paul Ryan is you have to change the rules to allow nominations from the floor, which means you have to eliminate 40(b), and put in a line in there that nominations would be accepted from the floor,” said a Republican source involved in managing the convention process for the party.
The source went on to acknowledged that Rule 40(b) could be challenged after the first ballot — as in, if no one wins in the first round of voting, an argument would be made that the eight-state threshold no longer applied. But even doing that would risk tremendous backlash from the very fervent supporters of Trump and Cruz.
“It’s an extremely difficult proposition. Not impossible. But extremely difficult,” the source said. Asked what would happen if it succeeded, the source replied: “Days of rage.”
Conservative radio personality Hugh Hewitt asked Ryan about the convention rules during an interview in Israel on Monday. “You are going to be chairman, and there is quite a lot of talk about Rule 40(b). Do you think the rules of the 2012 Convention ought to bind this convention, Mr. Speaker?”
“You know, I don’t know, that’s not my decision,” Ryan said. “That is going to be up to the delegates. I’m going to be an honest broker, and make sure that the convention follows the rules as the delegates make the rules. As you probably know, the Rules Committee meets the week before the convention. I believe it’s two delegates from each state and territory, about 112 people who’ll set the rules, and I’m not going to make an opinion or a judgment one way or the other, because it’s their decision, the delegates’ decision, who are the grassroots of the party, by the way. It should not be our decision as leaders. It is the delegates’ decision. So I’m not going to comment on what these rules look like or not. But I do believe people put my name in this thing, and I say get my name out of that. This is — if you want to be president, you should go run for president. And that’s just the way I see it.”
Matt Fuller contributed reporting


 

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paratrooper, Tarentum, United States, 7 hours ago
So ends the RepubliCant party! What a bunch of disappointing unorganized bunch of self serving fools. I have voted 51 years, Republican, I'm done! Good luck Donald! And I won't vote for Hillary, I knew her in college.




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A guy who couldn't even win his own state in 2012





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