Just for fun & IMHO, the auto back court 4 has always been, Oscar, Jerry, MJ, & Magic. 2 C & 4 FC. C, Wilt & Kareem (Russell?), FC, Larry, Malone, Berry. There is much rm for discussion on @ least 4 spots. And the final FC player mine would be Doc. Any one else? This got me started listening to M&M this AM, re. Kobe's place.:think2:
Jordan and Johnson one and two
Robertson ahead of Bryant for now
Then West. Then it would take someone who knows a lot more about the sport than I do to seperate the next level of Cousey, Thomas, Stockton, Frazier, Barry
I put Nash at the bottom of that group. Defensively pretty weak when you are talking top 10 All-Time and could never excel in the playoffs despite so many chances near the top of the Conference
Robertson ahead of Bryant for now
Then West. Then it would take someone who knows a lot more about the sport than I do to seperate the next level of Cousey, Thomas, Stockton, Frazier, Barry
I put Nash at the bottom of that group. Defensively pretty weak when you are talking top 10 All-Time and could never excel in the playoffs despite so many chances near the top of the Conference
Jordan won without Jabar and Bird won without Pippen. No one has ever won without teammates and the other 11 Lakers are still better than a lot of other teams supporting casts
There is a lot of truth to what gtc said. Over time, sports performance is always upwards. The 1972 Dolphins played in a league with 200-pound lineman, they could they have even beaten the 2007 Dolphins. Babe Ruth would barely be a suitable replacement for David Ortiz if he were transported from the 20s to the 21st century. Yet a championship from previous generations were still championships. Jerry West dominated his peers enough to rank fairly high on any All-Time list, only a step below Bryant. How much the gap widens is still unknown
There is a lot of truth to what gtc said. Over time, sports performance is always upwards. The 1972 Dolphins played in a league with 200-pound lineman, they could they have even beaten the 2007 Dolphins. Babe Ruth would barely be a suitable replacement for David Ortiz if he were transported from the 20s to the 21st century. Yet a championship from previous generations were still championships. Jerry West dominated his peers enough to rank fairly high on any All-Time list, only a step below Bryant. How much the gap widens is still unknown
Some may recall me repeating this in the past & I apoligize for bringing it up again, but John Stockton owns the NBA All-Time Assist Record AND the All-Time steals record.
Thats all-time records on BOTH sides of the ball, offense and defense.
Amazing feat and not nearly enough credit is given for such an accomplishment.
Where would he rank?
Tough call, but he deserves so much more respect....
Thats all-time records on BOTH sides of the ball, offense and defense.
Amazing feat and not nearly enough credit is given for such an accomplishment.
Where would he rank?
Tough call, but he deserves so much more respect....
kobe is a great player but i have still yet to see how he is even top 5 all time?
he is exciting to watch, scored 81 points, 3 rings (but so does fisher?)
kobes best asset as a player is his scoring, putting points on the board. he led the league in scoring 2 seasons (tmac did it 2x, AI did it 3x, mj 10x)
and like mark said only 1 mvp award?
great player but not greatest of all time, maybe top 10, maybe
he is exciting to watch, scored 81 points, 3 rings (but so does fisher?)
kobes best asset as a player is his scoring, putting points on the board. he led the league in scoring 2 seasons (tmac did it 2x, AI did it 3x, mj 10x)
and like mark said only 1 mvp award?
great player but not greatest of all time, maybe top 10, maybe
