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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsUdfJptPwk


The Horses name is I Want Revenge. I was betting some ponies with my Dad over the weekend, and witness one of the more remarkable races I have ever seen a horse race. Not only did he not get out of the block, but he got boxed in coming down the home stretch, only to get to the outside and still win going away. I will definitely have some money behind this horse come Derby time. Any race fans should check out this clip from the Aquedcut this past weekend
 

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Talk about kicking it into over drive coming down the home stretch. you can actually see the thing changing gears. even more impressive watching it for the 3rd time
 

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I was reading an article in Sunday's paper that focused on several Derby Hopefuls. I Want Revenge, Pioneer Of The Nile, and Musket Man are three horses you might want to research for your wager for the "Run For The Roses."
 

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I thought i saw odds of 10:1 on him for the derby before that race this weekend?
 

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the derby future pool is open till sunday night....i can assure you he closed much lower then 10-1....he'll be the first or second choice first saturday in may
 
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Florida Derby winner Quality Road has a crack, might not run.. If so, I want Revenge will likely be the favorite..
 

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Q Rd's injury sounds bad, however the trainer seems to thonk he'll be 100% by DD. What else can he say at this point? One of the best horse cappers @ the RX LOVES IWR! I placed a future on @ +400, screwed if scratched. <><>
 

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I was reading an article in Sunday's paper that focused on several Derby Hopefuls. I Want Revenge, Pioneer Of The Nile, and Musket Man are three horses you might want to research for your wager for the "Run For The Roses."

Saw Pioneer of the Nile run at the Santa Anita derby this weekend...he was impressive (but The Pamplemousse who was supposed to be one of the faves was scratched).
 

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I Want Revenge closed as the 9-2 chalk in the last future pool.

In the Wood he spotted a bad field a few lengths and walked past some empty horses in the lane.
Mullins is known for "squeezing the lemon dry" and add to that the other issue he's dealing with from that day.
 

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I Want Revenge was brought to our attention before he won the Gotham Stakes (Grade III) by 8 lengths right here in the RX Horse Racing Forum. At that time his odds were available at 40-1. If you're not visiting the Horse Racing Forum, your missing some great opportunities. He lost over 8 lengths at the start of the Wood Memorial this past Saturday, had to take up on the far turn and had to steady in the stretch behind a wall of horses and then swing out for his run to win going away by 1.5 lengths. With Quality Road injured with a quarter crack and Pamplemousse out, those odds look real sweet right now.
 
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Q Rd's injury sounds bad, however the trainer seems to thonk he'll be 100% by DD. What else can he say at this point? One of the best horse cappers @ the RX LOVES IWR! I placed a future on @ +400, screwed if scratched. <><>

He may run but, regardless of what the connections say, he's long odds to be 100% on the big day. He'll take good money and run out.
 

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IWR will probably go off 2/3-1 unless there is an eye opening performance in the two preps this weekend. That type of performance could come from Win Willy, Old Fashioned or Charitable Man.

Latter discussed a lot in the horse forum and currently available at around 40-1.
 

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I Want Revenge was brought to our attention before he won the Gotham Stakes (Grade III) by 8 lengths right here in the RX Horse Racing Forum. At that time his odds were available at 40-1. If you're not visiting the Horse Racing Forum, your missing some great opportunities. He lost over 8 lengths at the start of the Wood Memorial this past Saturday, had to take up on the far turn and had to steady in the stretch behind a wall of horses and then swing out for his run to win going away by 1.5 lengths. With Quality Road injured with a quarter crack and Pamplemousse out, those odds look real sweet right now.

any idea how the breeding and dosage looks? can he stick the distance?
 

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good article

'Revenge Changed Everything for Lanzman

By The Associated Press
Updated: Monday, April 6, 2009 5:44 PM
Posted: Friday, April 3, 2009 7:00 PM
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By RICHARD ROSENBLATT
AP Sports Writer

The moment his sleek bay colt came roaring down the stretch and hit the wire for an 8 1/2-length victory in the Gotham Stakes (gr. III) at Aqueduct Racetrack last month, David Lanzman knew his life was about to change.

In this case, it’s all good.

A former struggling rock singer for several LA bands, including one calling itself Bag of Guilt, the 52-year-old Lanzman may just have the favorite for the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) in four weeks.

I Want Revenge is the odds-on favorite in the $750,000 Wood Memorial (gr. I) at the Big A on Saturday, and a win would send the son of Stephen Got Even to Churchill Downs as a most formidable presence.

“It’s all really kind of unbelievable,” said Lanzman, based in Beverly Hills and the owner of a mortgage company as well as about 20 Thoroughbreds.

I Want Revenge was bred by Lanzman, too. The colt showed promise with a second-place and then third-place finish behind Derby-bound Pioneerof the Nile in stakes races on synthetic surfaces in California, But at the suggestion of trainer Jeff Mullins and jockey Joe Talamo, Lanzman sent his horse East to run on a dirt track for the first time.

Bingo! I Want Revenge left the competition in the dust, was sent home to California for a few weeks and is back in New York to show that his last race was no fluke.

“I went out the other morning to watch his work and he was hardly breathing — and it was an open gallop,” Lanzman said of I Want Revenge’s five-furlong workout in a speedy 59.80 seconds March 29 at Hollywood Park. “It’s almost scary that we think he’s better now than he was going into the Gotham.”

Lanzman isn’t alone.

On Monday, Lanzman accepted an offer he couldn’t refuse: He sold a 50% share of I Want Revenge to IEAH Stables of Big Brown fame, then bought a 25% share of IEAH’s 3-year-old filly sensation Stardom Bound, the likely favorite for the Kentucky Oaks (gr. I) the day before the Derby.

“This was a life-changing scene for us,” he said, referring to his wife, Desirae, and their teenage son, Blair. “I mean, I’m not pleading poverty but at the same time we are in a situation where this kind of changes our lives so I had to get that done. And at the same time, I couldn’t give up the dream of a lifetime either, and this deal accomplished both.”

Lanzman made one concession: I Want Revenge will now wear the red, white and blue silks of IEAH instead of Lanzman’s teal, gold lightning bolt and gold silks.

“My wife and I discussed it, and with the exception of Secretariat and Cigar I can’t remember what anybody’s silks look like,” he said.

Eight years ago, Lanzman thought racing couldn’t get any better when he won the 2001 Breeders’ Cup Sprint (gr. I) with Squirtle Squirt, a horse he bought for $25,000 and named after his favorite Pokemon character. But his racing friends kept telling him winning a Breeders’ Cup was nothing compared to the Kentucky Derby.

He didn’t believe them.

“It was to the point where I actually took offense by it,” he said. “It was like, ‘Hey, come on you guys. This is a championship.’ And I would get in discussions where I would argue the point.

“I was wrong back then. This is unbelievable.”

Lanzman, who was born in Erie, Pa., but grew up in Los Angeles, says he started sneaking into Hollywood Park to bet on races when he was 13. He got the money from scalping tickets at the nearby Forum. He said he bought his first horse in 1991.

None, though, have created the excitement generated by I Want Revenge. The colt still has a way to go to catch Squirtle Squirt in earnings—$1.1 million for Squirtle Squirt; $366,000 for I Want Revenge—but who’s counting now that Lanzman has his lucrative deal with IEAH?

After the Gotham, I Want Revenge was supposed to stay in New York with trainer Tony Dutrow overseeing his care. But Lanzman, as well as Mullins, had second thoughts.

“If he’d have won by a length or two I think he probably would have stayed,” said Lanzman. “When he ran the way he did, I don’t think Jeff wanted him out of his sight.”

I Want Revenge will be in full view in the 1 1/8-mile Wood, a final prep before the Derby. With Talamo aboard, I Want Revenge takes on seven rivals, including Gotham runner-up Imperial Council, the 2-1 second choice.
 

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IF ,,,,,,,,,, DUNKIRK gets in the derby ,,,,,,,,,, He is a LOCK !!!!!!! I know luck is a factor in the derby , but there is no question in my mind that the Florida preps had far deeper and more talented fields .. On talent alone it is DUNKIRK hands down !!! see you at the cashier windows $$$$$$$$$$$$
 

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Here is another piece of information regarding Jeff Mullins this past Saturday as posted in the Horse Racing Forum by our very own joeyp.

Headlines | Posted 4/6/2009, 4:37 pmPrint
Mullins says he didn't know security barn rules
By David Grening

Trainer Jeff Mullins readily admits to administering a medication to his horse Gato Go Win on Saturday in Aqueduct's race-day security barn, but said he was unaware he was doing something wrong or anything that would have prompted the stewards to scratch the horse from the Grade 3 Bay Shore Stakes. The New York stewards are continuing their investigation into the matter to determine what, if any, penalties to hand Mullins.

The case will become more high-profile for the simple fact that Mullins is also the trainer of I Want Revenge, whose dazzling win in Saturday's Wood Memorial at Aqueduct could make him the favorite for the May 2 Kentucky Derby. Mullins's career - which includes citations by California racing officials for violations including excessive levels of sodium bicarbonate that required 24-hour surveillance of his horses on two occasions - will undergo scrutiny much like Richard Dutrow Jr. did last year as he campaigned Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner Big Brown through the Triple Crown.

The stewards scratched Gato Go Win from the Bay Shore after security personnel observed Mullins giving the colt a dose of Air Power, an over-the-counter medication described as cough medicine and which also helps open nasal passages. The product, which Mullins says he uses regularly on his horses in Southern California, is administered with a metal oral dose syringe. New York rules prohibit giving any medication - other than Lasix - to a horse in the race-day security barn. The Lasix is administered by a NYRA vet. NYRA rules also prohibit the presence of dose syringes in the security barn.

Mullins indicated Monday that had he not been made aware that giving the medication to Gato Go Win was a violation, he likely would have given it to I Want Revenge as well.

"In a way it was fortunate," Mullins said by phone Monday from Santa Catalina Island, where he was vacationing with his children. "It could have been I Want Revenge; it could have been him just as easy as the other horse."

Mullins said he is not sure if I Want Revenge was given Air Power before his 8 1/2-length victory in last month's Gotham, also at Aqueduct. Mullins, who said a bottle of Air Power did go with the horse to the security barn that day, said that he was not at the security barn prior to that race, and that he had to hire two employees from trainer Tony Dutrow's staff to go in with the horse because his help could not get licensed.

"Those guys probably know" not to give it, Mullins said. "They went through this before. I don't know if he [received it] or he didn't."

Joe Mahoney, a spokesman for the New York State Racing and Wagering Board, said investigators had no reason to suggest I Want Revenge be scratched from the Wood.

"Our information suggests they would have seen any questionable activity involving I Want Revenge," Mahoney said. "There's no indication of that. I Want Revenge was tested postrace, so if there's a problem we'll know about it."

Mullins said he didn't think there was a problem on Saturday because security personnel allowed him to bring the bottle into the barn when he brought the horses over Saturday morning. He said the bottle was clearly marked and was inside a five-gallon bucket.

"I figured once they went through all my stuff and let it in, I was fine," Mullins said. "In my mind it was an innocent mistake. Obviously, they overlooked it, and their oversight led to an honest mistake. There were two security guards in front of my horses all the time; they watched me do it."

Mullins said it wasn't until after he administered the Air Power to Gato Go Win that security guards began asking questions.

"The guy asked to see the bottle, and said, 'What was that stuff you gave him?' " Mullins said. "I thought he was being inquisitive. I said, 'It's just Air Power, it's like a cough drop.' I gave it to him, he walked off, they grabbed the syringe, they come back, told me I was scratched. I said, 'Really, for what?' They said you're not supposed to administer anything to a horse on race day other than Lasix. I said, 'How did they let me in here with it?' "

Mullins said when the stewards called him he asked them to not scratch the horse and penalize the owners, and to pull some blood and test the horse. Air Power, according to the manufacturer's website, contains honey, apple cider, vinegar, aloe vera, menthol, oil of eucalyptus, lemon juice, and ethyl alcohol.

Mahoney said the medication is not permitted to be administered to a horse on race day even before the horse comes to the security barn. He said the bottle of Air Power and the syringe were confiscated and will undergo a complete analysis at the state's equine drug lab at Cornell University.

Mahoney said that the board could not be specific about any potential penalties, and that it is aware of the sensitivity of the case given the proximity to the Kentucky Derby.

"We want to be thorough; we'll move forward in due course," he said. "We're aware of the racing calendar."

I Want Revenge is co-owned by David Lanzman and the IEAH Stables, headed by Michael Iavarone. Lanzman has controlling interest in the horse and calls the shots on who trains him. Iavarone, whose outfit came out with a stand last fall against using race-day medication other than Lasix, said the only clause in the contract that gives IEAH authority would be if I Want Revenge finished out of the money in three consecutive races.

"I must be the luckiest guy and the unluckiest guy in the world," Iavarone said. "To have the Derby favorite two years in a row and then running into a media storm two years in a row. It's impossible to make this stuff up."
 

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Thanks Ted, I may have to check out the Horse Racing forum. I admit I have never actually been there. I guess I brought up something that was widely known. But if that info was posted when he was 40:1 i will surely be down there more often, b/c that info was golden.
 

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