Kansas State

[gemba]

I hope that everyone noticed something while they cashed on my Aggies last week. Kstate had a qb in the second half that impressed everyone that I have talked to who went to the game. Don't forget the score was 35-30 at one point. KState drove down their opening drive and scored. The final score of the game does not give justice. Scoring 30 on the Wrecking crew at Kyle seems to be impressive this year. QB seems to be improved and the team seems to be headed in the right direction.

KState dropped downed the rankings based on the fact that they lossed. They lossed since they had a rb and no qb. I had originally posted about the game and said something along the lines of a battle of equal rbs and Reggie being the better qb which should lead to the Aggie win with the 12th man helping.

I see Kansas State making some late noise in the Big 12. I think they will win some games while winning some money for us this year. I think I read their line being 3 this week. Sounds like a winner to me!

What you think?

 

[muffinman]

Gemba,

I agree. This K-st team will be much more competitive later into the season. And They have owned UK the last 10 yrs. I think they rebound on this game, big time. UK's defense is not as good as a&m's. I'll lay the 3 pts.:breakit:

 

[BigPete]

I question their defense allowing over 30 points a game and 4.5 yards per carry..

That is not Kansas State like. However Kansas is not a running team so state should have a lil more luck holding them back.

 

[DanTanna]

I think you may be right. I was leaning toward Kansas in this one, but may have to lay off.

 

[TheAce]

Bill Snyder does not like Mark Mangino. Coach Snyder will try to run up the score at all cost. 1999 KSU 50 KU 9, 2000 KSU 52 - KU 13, 2001 KSU 40 - KU 6, 2002 KSU 64 - KU 0, 2003 KSU 42 - KU 6.

K-State must win the instate recruiting wars for whatever instate talent there is. Therefor he will roll if possible. KU playing back to back games against Neb...now K-State. KU might be beat up a tad.

 

[TheAce]

I'll lay the 2.5 Pinny has it currently @ 2.5

 

[Midwesterner]

KU's offensive line is weak, and their receivers have terrible hands. KSU is more balanced offensively, and their weaknesses on defense will minimized due KU's weaknesses on offense. KSU is improving and should win this by 2 TD's.

 

[tendog]

bill snyder doesnt like anybody so mangino isnt special in that regard--certainly the talent wasnt replenished this year as had been happening with snyder. i feel they are still a notch above kansas and should be able to cover here if the ball doesnt take a lot of home field bounces.

 

[TheAce]

Tendog,

That may be true...but Snyder has extra venom for some. Mangino is one. This will go back as far as when Mangino,the Stoops bros and Brent Venables were on Snyder's staff. All went with Bob Stoops when he took the OU job. If, Snyder has an opportunityhe will run up the score as much as possible. Snyder could go 1-10 and this is the game on the schedule that is circled before the season starts. Listening to the "D" coord. show yesterday on the radio, this game has more meaning than all combined and the players are reminded everyday. Just a few thoughts.

 

[muffinman]

Quick Stats:

K-st is 27-14 ats off SU loss (under Snyder)
K-state is 12-3 ats when line is -3-- +3, since '92

*K-state has outscored UK by an avg. of 39 pts, since '95
---Is the disparity b/t these two teams that much different this year.
LAY THE PTS>:aktion033

 

[WCBias]

Muffinman,

If you run those same trends for Kansas/Nebraska, wouldn't they be about the same, if not worse?

 

[ElIguana]

I don't know if Cats win by 14 as many are predicting, but I think they cover the spread.

As for giving up 42 to the Aggies, 21 points were scored off a Darren Sproles fumble of a punt reception on his own 6, Dylan Meier throwing an INT that was returned 30 yards for a TD, and a fluke running TD w/ under a minute to play when the game was over and A&M was running out the clock. K-State D looked a lot better than when Fresno man-handled them in Manhattan.

Lay the 3 points and think about the under as well. KU D is improved.

 

[sportsmonitor]

El Iguana-
I see someone else watched the game besides me. KSU did have a lot of bad breaks against A&M. KSU has many variations on offense that will confuse if not just plain gain big yardage against KU's defense. KSU's offense distributes the ball very well and the offensive play selections are excellent. They are nothing like Minnesota's three plays up the middle and punt versus Penn St last week. Look for Sproles to have at least 200 all purpose yards versus KU. He will be on a mission after the A&M performance. KSU's defense has improved and is much better than KU's even though KU's defense looks better on paper right now. That will soon change as the real KU defense showed up in the second half of the TT game. KU's defense is virtually the same as last years and has been lucky so far this year for the first time in 20 yrs. KU's offense is average at best for the Big XII even though they ran up the score against Toledo. Adam Barman is no Bill Whittemore. Whittemore would have lit TT up like a Christmas tree the second half of that game instead of not scoring a single point. Not surprised at all by the low scoring game between NU and KU last week. KSU will cover this game easily.

 

[tendog]

ace: agree with your assessment completely--kansas faced a nebr. offense that was unable to take advantage of any opportunities and i expect they will not be that fortunate against the cats

 

[gemba]

Sportsmonitor,

I too watched the game and saw it correctly. I thought that the Aggies were lucky to get the win last week. Take away the fumble, late Reggie run, and punt return and you have a KState win. I am impressed with the qb and see KState making a late season impression!

BUT, I am an Aggie and I look forward to seeing just how long it takes them to get back into the Top 25. With Oklahoma State coming up, I don't see it happening this year. BUT, I see a young AGGIE team this year that is already making some noise and will only be better in the future!