Kansas St -3 @ Kansas....

[Co-Captain]

Ok Gang...You all heard it before how a game is a "Trap" and what not....So I have a question to all of you....I see a lot of people so far on the Wildcats in this one...but why is the line so low....K ST has beaten these Jayhawks 11 straight and the past few hasnt even been close, all were complete blowouts...So are the Books thinking that this could be the year the Jayhawks upset the Wildcats, and are they setting up the public, who they know would be all over the Wildcats, because of the past results, rankings, RB Sproles, etc....by posting such a low number in this one....What do you all think?...Right now, I have a lean to the Jayhawks and I can see a possible upset for them.....but would like to hear other peoples opinions on this one...

Feel free to share your thoughts, insights, opinions, stats, trends, info, etc...But please keep out your cousin's sisters boyfriend's auties son's brothers, who btw attends either K ST or Kansas,...inside info from this thread.:howdy: ...LOL...

Tell him, thanks but no thanks, as we'll try to figure this one out on our own.:think: ..Thanks. CC.:heh:

 

[MGMan]

Capt,

I handicap ncaa football very average to (this year very poor) and my first thought and one of my selections is K St. K St only has 12 returning starters and I've always said if it looks to good to be true, it probably is. Your guess on this one is as good as anyones.

MG

 

[RightSide]

Kansas is definetly the play for me! Kst hasn't shown me ANYTHING this year and Kansas is definetly on the upswing in success with their football team. This is the best team they've had in years and they'll make this a game unlike previous years. The ONLY reason Kst is favored is because of that streak vs their rival Jayhawk team. That STOPS tomorrow as I see live doggy written all over this one! GL with whatever you play!

 

[goldencontender]

co-capt. the only system i have on this game is toplay on road favsless than 5 same conf.off road dog su-ats loss vs. opp off su road dog loss but ats cover. which kansas did in covering vs. nebraska. the system is 7-1 su-atss-80 and doesnt pop up too often. so i lean to k-st, also kstate has beaten them even as a dog in a so called trap game i think is was 94 or 95. they have beaten them what like 25 of 26. bol gc.

 

[Co-Captain]

RS....where do you see the matchup favoring Kansas the most in this one...K St is a running team...and I am not so convinced on last weeks 2nd half showing by their QB in the Texas A&M game to continue...

 

[Co-Captain]

co-capt. the only system i have on this game is toplay on road favsless than 5 same conf.off road dog su-ats loss vs. opp off su road dog loss but ats cover. which kansas did in covering vs. nebraska. the system is 7-1 su-atss-80 and doesnt pop up too often. so i lean to k-st, also kstate has beaten them even as a dog in a so called trap game i think is was 94 or 95. they have beaten them what like 25 of 26. bol gc.

GC...Thanks for the info....BTW, can you list the other games that won and the other one that lost in this system....I would like to try and compare those games with this one, if you have the past info....Aloha CC.

 

[Co-Captain]

FYI: more stats....

In the past two years games....KST had very solid Defenses ranking in the Top in the nations in most categories....This year, is not the case for them as they only return 4 on the Defense...and it is showing as they rank currently at 85th in Total Defense in the land, whereas Kansas ranks 30th....Not your typical KST Defense at all...

This K ST Defense this year is also allowing over 30 pts per game and 4.5 ypc...The past two blowouts KST dominated on Defense and also got 10 turnovers in the process... Also, I think that in the pass games, KSt had a combination of RB, QB, Special Teams Star, and a Rock Solid....This year they have RB Sproles....is he enough?....Right now, I am feeling he wont be enough, as this Kansas Def will Key Up on him all game long.:neenee:

 

[Co-Captain]

Line on this one is as high as -4, some -3.5, but mostly -3 on K ST.

 

[Co-Captain]

Anyone else has opinions or info, etc they would like to share on this game....please feel free to do so....No worries what side your on...no one will be allowed to bash anyone who generously shares their insights and info with all of us....Plus remember, Sharing is Caring... LOL.

 

[wilkibeast]

Porsche-pinto

THE OVERALL TEAM SPEED IS THE DECIDING FACTOR HERE K.ST. IS LIKE A PORSCHE AND KU IS LIKE A PINTO... SPECIAL TEAMS WILL MAKE SURE THAT K.ST WINS THIS ONE BY D.D. MY FRIEND.. GL:think: :howdy:

 

[Co-Captain]

Dont know about KSt's other Special Teams play....but as far as their Punting is concerned....They are ranked last in punting in the Big 12 and 5th worst in the Nation in this category, only averaging 33.8 yards per punt....

KSt also is averaging just 7 yards per a Punt Return as well, which also ranks them last in the Big 12 and puts them in the bottom area as well in the Nation...

KST's Kick Off Return game is a lot better as they rank 23rd in the nation in this category averaging 23.3 yards per a return....Down side to this though is that if your team is running a lot of Kick Offs back, it means that the opponents are scoring a lot as well...

Kansas, on the other hand, is averaging 41.1 yards per a kick and 24.2 yards per Kick Off return this year...

 

[wilkibeast]

more info

k.st. will block either a f.g. or punt or both for a big 7-10 pt swing...they have the superior speed and talent.

• here some trends for you
• k.st. with a spread of -3 or +3 is 12-3 ats
• k.st is 10-2 last 12 ats vs ku
• k.st. is 5-1 last 6@
• but if you like the game then by all means play it im just trying to give a little input. :howdy: gl this weekend

 

[Co-Captain]

Thanks for sharing the info...thats why I started this tread...no picks on this one has been set in stone yet...So no worries stating your position and why you like it...Share more if you got more....Thanks and Aloha CC.

 

[wilkibeast]

off by ten

the line on this game should be k.st.-13 looks like a hum -dinger... lol :heh:

 

[wilkibeast]

one dimensional

not to mention that the jayhawks are a one dimensional team >>they cannot run the ball to save their lives. as they are only avg. 103 ypg on the ground with a 3.0 ypc. gl:biglaugh:

 

[omahamoneymaker]

I like Kansas in this game. This line originally started at around -4 for KState or maybe even -4.5. I pondered :think: on taking Kansas when the line was there after it had been up for just a few minutes. By the time I figured I had a solid lean to Kansas it had gone down to -3 or maybe even -2.5. After letting the line stabalize and come back up I still like Kansas. Not sure if it will be a play for me because I have several others today but I would certainly not play KState in this one. If you are backing KState it is simply off of past performances and surely not of this years team. They lost a ton of talent off last years team and KStates offense needs a solid QB to be successful on offense. Wilkibeast referred to team speed, well I'm not sure what games you have been watching this year but Kansas is much quicker than they have been in the past. I have been impressed with the speed they have on defense and the big play ability of Rideau and Gordon on offense. One dimensional you say: Well Kansas certainly throws it better than they run it but what about KState, you don't think that they are one dimensional! They can't throw worth a lick... other than last weeks game when they hit a few passes. 41 yards passing against LL and 91 against Fresno State. Fresno State 45 KState 21. Not sure if I am going to play this game but I expect KU to win 28-27. :biglaugh:

 

[odiescrew25]

Just my opinion, but I don't think Kansas will be able to stop Sproles. I was at the Nebraska /Kansas game last week and the only thing stoping nebraska from running was Nebraskas Coach. Sproles will get his 30+ carries this week. Kansas can move the ball, and run the ball better than the stats show. Should be a good game but I have to side with Kansas State.


KSU 35
KU 24

:toothless

 

[one-eye]

Captain, first off just want to say this is my first post ever in this forum. I have been sitting on the sidelines and observing and absorbing all of the information in this forum for about three years now and finally decided it was time to get in the game and add my two cents. I figured it wasnt fair to reap the benefits without giving a little back. I have found your insights and a handful of others most beneficial over the years and I guess that's why I have chose now to speak. With all that being said, and take it for what it's worth coming from a "newbie", I come from deep in the heart of Huskerville so I watch the Big Twelve closer than most. I obviously watched KU and NU play last week, but also had a serious amount of my bankroll on A&M last week so I watched that game pretty close as well. I saw alot of good things out of Kst last week despite their loss. Schneider has had this game circled since spring ball. In state recruiting, going against an old ass. coach, etc. Plus everybody mentions the past trends. I guess what I am trying to say is alot goes into handicapping a game, but I gain the most from actually watching the teams and basically forming an opinion of who can beat who from what I saw on the field. Kst still has more talent and team spead and are starting to get better on offense. I just dont see them losing this game. Thanks for all the good work and hope my three cents in this case helps.

 

[butt-kiss]

The last 4 years have K-State outscoring Kansas 198-25 with K-State laying 24, 21,35,& 21 pts. and covering all. This domination will continue today. Although the Jayhawks are improved, the gap is still very wide. Kansas has yet learned how to win. The psychological barrier for them to overcome is huge. If by some divine intervention, the game were to be close in the 4th quarter:
K-state finds a way to win, while the Jayhawks invent a new way to lose.

 

[Co-Captain]

UPSET IN THE MAKING....LETS GO JAYHAWKS!:aktion033