Kaine’s top 5 lies of the night

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[h=1]​KAINE’S TOP 5 LIES OF THE NIGHT[/h]

KAINE OVER EXAGGERATED THE ROLE NEW START PLAYED IN LIMITING RUSSIA’S WEAPON STOCKPILES


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Kaine Asserted That Russia Was Extending Its Weapons Stockpile In The Debate Until Clinton Worked Out A Deal With Them. SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): “Let me tell you Governor Pence, Do you know that when Osama bin Laden was alive? Do you know that we had one hundred seventy five thousand troops deployed in the battlefield in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do know that Iran was racing toward a nuclear weapon and Russia was extending its stockpile? Under Secretary Clinton's leadership public safety team when after and revived the hunt against Bin Laden and wipe them off the face of the earth. She worked a deal with the Russians to use their chemical weapons stockpile. She worked a tough negotiation with nations around the world to eliminate the Iranian nuclear weapons program without firing a shot.”(Sen. Tim Kaine, Vice Presidential Debate, Longwood University, Farmville, VA, 10/4/16)

While Kaine Said That New START Placed Limits On Russia’s Weapons Stockpile, The Treaty Only Places Limits On Deployed Strategic Weapons But Not Stockpiled Weapons


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The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler Asserted That “Kaine Surely Meant To Say Nuclear Weapons” During The Debate, But Even So “Overstated The Impact Of The 2011 New START” Which Clinton Helped Negotiate. “Kaine surely meant to say nuclear weapons, but it came out as chemical weapons. Even so, Kaine overstates the impact of the 2011 New START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) agreement, which Clinton helped negotiate as Secretary of State.” (Glenn Kessler, “FactCheck: Tim Kaine On Clinton’s Nuclear Agreement,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)



While New START Placed Stricter Limits On Deployed Strategic Weapons, But Does Not Place Limits On The Stockpiles Of Either Country. “New START placed tighter limits on deployed strategic weapons, but Russia for the most part was already meeting those targets when the treaty began to be implemented. The treaty does not restrict either country from stockpiling weapons, nor does it require them to destroy any existing weapons.” (Glenn Kessler, “FactCheck: Tim Kaine On Clinton’s Nuclear Agreement,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)



The Washington Post Fact Checker Gave Kaine “Two Pinocchios” For Making A Similar Claim



The Washington Post Fact Checked Kaine And Clinton On Their Claims That The New START Treaty Reduced Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Stockpiles. “Nuclear arms is a highly technical area, and we understand the temptation for politicians to want to use easy-to-understand shorthand. New START placed a cap on deployed strategic weapons, but Russia for the most part was already meeting those targets when the treaty began to be implemented. The treaty does not restrict either country from stockpiling weapons, so Clinton and Kaine go too far to say that stockpiles have been reduced or that Russian nuclear weapons have been cut. In fact, at the moment deployed Russian warheads are climbing.” (Glenn Kessler, “Clinton, Kaine Go Too Far In Touting A Nuclear Deal With Russia,” The Washington Post¸10/4/16)

• Kaine And Clinton Earned “Two Pinocchios” For Their Exaggerated Claims. “We wavered between One and Two Pinocchios, but in the end leaned toward Two. Clinton and Kaine need to make clearer they are talking about deployed nuclear weapons — and that future growth is capped. A few words can make a difference in being absolutely accurate.”(Glenn Kessler, “Clinton, Kaine Go Too Far In Touting A Nuclear Deal With Russia,” The Washington Post¸10/4/16)

 

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KAINE REPEATED THE FALSE ASSERTION THAT OBAMA’S ECONOMY HAS CREATED 15 MILLION JOBS IN TONIGHT’S DEBATE



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Kaine Interrupted Governor Pence To Twice Claim The False Assertion That Obama’s Economy Has Created 15 Million Jobs. GOV. MIKE PENCE (R-IN): “Well, first, let me say, I appreciated the you're hired/you're fired thing. Senator, you used that a whole lot. I think your running mate used a lot of pre-done lines. Look, what you all just heard out there is more taxes, $2 trillion in more spending, more deficits, more debt, more government. And if you think then you look at the that's all working, other side of the table. I mean, the truth of the matter is the policies of this administration, which Hillary Clinton and Senator Kaine want to economy have run this economy into a ditch. We're in the…” SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): “15 million new jobs? 15 million New Jobs?” PENCE: “The slowest economic recovery since the -- there are millions more people living in poverty today than the day that Barack Obama with Hillary Clinton at his side.” (Sen. Tim Kaine, Vice Presidential Debate, Longwood University, Farmville, VA, 10/4/16)



The Washington Post Fact Checker Gave Kaine “Three Pinocchios” For Repeating Clinton’s False Claim That Obama Has Created 15 Million Jobs



Along With Several Other Members Of The Clinton Campaign, The Washington PostFact Checked- Kaine’s Claim That 15 Million Jobs Have Been Created On Obama’s Watch, Saying “That’s 5 Million Jobs Too Many.” “The Clinton campaign is clearly fond of saying that 15 million jobs — or, alternatively, 15 million private-sector jobs — were created in the Obama administration. Clinton frequently indicates that she’s talking about the entire Obama administration. She uses phrases such ‘than when they took office’ or ‘in the last 7 1/2 years.’ But that’s 5 million jobs too many.” (Glenn Kessler, “Clinton’s Misleading Citation Of ‘15 Million Jobs’ Under Obama,” The Washington Post, 8/22/16)

• Kaine Was Cited In The Article As Repeating Clinton’s “15 Million” Talking Point.“‘Now, thank goodness under President Obama, we’ve dramatically reduced the unemployment rate. Fifteen million private-sector jobs. So we’re climbing out of it. But there’s still an awful lot of repair work to be done.’ – Democratic vice-presidential nominee Tim Kaine, interview on CNN, July 29.”(Glenn Kessler, “Clinton’s Misleading Citation Of ‘15 Million Jobs’ Under Obama,” The Washington Post, 8/22/16)

The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler Said Kaine And Clinton’s “15 Million Jobs” Claim Was Only Created By Cherry Picking The Start Date. “So how does Clinton come up with 15 million? She’s counting from the low point for jobs in Obama’s presidency — February 2010. When you start the clock from then, the tally is 15 million private-sector jobs and 14.7 million overall jobs. The last time we checked, February 2010 was 6 1/2 years ago. Clinton is trying to wipe off a year of Obama’s presidency.” (Glenn Kessler, “Clinton’s Misleading Citation Of ‘15 Million Jobs’ Under Obama,” The Washington Post, 8/22/16)



Kaine And Clinton Earned “Three Pinocchios” For Their Claim. “Clinton is clearly trying to use the biggest jobs number possible. But she can’t be so cute and leave listeners with the impression that all of these jobs were created since the start of Obama’s term in office. All she needs to do is make it clear that she is talking about this particular streak of job creation. Until then, she earns Three Pinocchios.” (Glenn Kessler, “Clinton’s Misleading Citation Of ‘15 Million Jobs’ Under Obama,” The Washington Post, 8/22/16)



According To FactCheck.Org, Kaine “Cherry Picks” And Uses “One Of The Clinton Campaign’s Misleading Talking Points” When Discussing Job Growth Under Obama



Kaine Has Inaccurately Asserted That President Obama Cut Unemployment In Half And Created 15 Million New Private Sector Jobs. “Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine, Aug. 30 speech in Lancaster, Pennsylvania: ‘And let’s start with this. President Obama, since he’s come into office, we’ve created 15 million new, private-sector jobs, cut the unemployment rate in half, people’s 401(k)s have come back and they’re worth something again.’” (Lori Robertson, Ilana Nathans, Vanessa Shipani And D’Angelo Gore, “Groundhog Friday,” FactCheck.Org, 9/2/16)



FactCheck.Org Slammed This Assertion As “One Of The Clinton Campaign’s Misleading Talking Points.” “Kaine repeats one of the Clinton campaign’s misleading talking points.” (Lori Robertson, Ilana Nathans, Vanessa Shipani And D’Angelo Gore, “Groundhog Friday,” FactCheck.Org, 9/2/16)



The Talking Point Cherry Picks Facts And Compares The Current Situation To February 2010, The Height Of The Economic Recession, Instead Of The Beginning Of Obama’s Presidential Term In 2009. “Kaine uses the same cherry-picking to claim that under Obama the unemployment rate has been cut ‘in half.’ The rate went from 9.8 in February 2010 to 4.9 in August. But it was 7.8 in January 2009, when Obama was sworn in as president.” (Lori Robertson, Ilana Nathans, Vanessa Shipani And D’Angelo Gore, “Groundhog Friday,” FactCheck.Org, 9/2/16)



FactCheck.Org Rated This Assertion: “Cherry Picks.” (Lori Robertson, Ilana Nathans, Vanessa Shipani And D’Angelo Gore, “Groundhog Friday,” FactCheck.Org, 9/2/16)

 

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KAINE ONCE AGAIN STATED THAT TRUMP IS DEFYING NORMS BY NOT RELEASING HIS TAX RETURNS BY CITING NIXON, WHO DID NOT RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS WHILE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT​

Kaine Made The False Comparison That Nixon Released His Full Tax Returns While Running For President. SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): “Richard Nixon released tax returns when he was under audit. If you can’t meet Nixon’s standard, people ought to have some concerns.” (Sen. Tim Kaine, Vice Presidential Debate, Longwood University, Farmville, VA, 10/4/16)



Politifact Rated Kaine’s Statement That Nixon Released His Tax Returns When Running For President As “Mostly False”


Politifact Rated Kaine’s Statement That “Even Richard Nixon Released His Tax Returns To The Public When He Was Running For President” As Mostly False. “Kaine said, ‘Even Richard Nixon released his tax returns to the public when he was running for president ...’ Nixon never released his tax returns during a presidential campaign. But there is a kernel of truth in Kaine’s statement. Nixon released his full returns when he already was president, to quell controversy over his taxes. Also while running in 1968, he allowed a reporter to examine his returns, but beyond that limited circumstance, there’s no record that Nixon opened his tax forms to the general public. While Kaine’s statement has an element of truth, it ignores facts that would create a different impression. We rate his statement Mostly False.” (Sean Gorman, “Tim Kaine Wrongly Says Richard Nixon Released Tax Returns During Campaign,” Politifact, 8/22/16)

• Kaine “Said Trump’s Refusal To Release His Forms Is A Break From Past GOP Nominees.” “Kaine, a U.S. senator from Virginia and the Democratic vice presidential nominee, said Trump’s refusal to release his forms is a break from past GOP nominees, including one who Kaine said was not known for his ethics. ‘Even Richard Nixon released his tax returns to the public when he was running for president because he said, as has every major party nominee of both parties since, the American public have a right to see my tax returns,’ Kaine told a crowd during a Manchester, N.H., rally on Aug. 13. We weren’t aware that Nixon released his tax returns while he was on the campaign trail.” (Sean Gorman, “Tim Kaine Wrongly Says Richard Nixon Released Tax Returns During Campaign,” Politifact, 8/22/16)

• The Clinton Campaign Pointed To Articles About Nixon’s Tax Disclosures, ButPolitifact Found That Nixon’s Tax Returns From 1969 Through 1972 “Were Not Released While Nixon Was Running For President.” “Sarah Peck, the Virginia director of communications for the Clinton campaign, pointed us to news articles and other sources about Nixon’s tax disclosures. We also looked at the website for the Presidential Tax History Project, which is run by Tax Analysts, a Falls Church-based nonprofit that specializes in tax issues. That group has compiled tax returns online for past presidents and major-party presidential nominees. On the group’s website, you’ll find copies of Nixon’s tax returns from 1969 through 1972. But there’s a catch. Those returns were not released while Nixon was running for president. They were released in December 1973, a year after he was re-elected.” (Sean Gorman, “Tim Kaine Wrongly Says Richard Nixon Released Tax Returns During Campaign,” Politifact, 8/22/16)

• Politifact Found No Record Of Nixon Releasing Tax Returns During His Two Other Runs For The Presidency. “We couldn’t find any record of Nixon releasing tax returns during his two other runs for the presidency - in 1960, against John F. Kennedy, or in his 1972 re-election bid against George McGovern. Thorndike said that, to his knowledge, Nixon didn’t release his returns during those campaigns. Mihm also told us he’s not aware of Nixon releasing his tax returns during any of his presidential campaigns.” (Sean Gorman, “Tim Kaine Wrongly Says Richard Nixon Released Tax Returns During Campaign,” Politifact, 8/22/16)

 

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KAINE FALSELY STATED THAT CLINTON ELIMINATED THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM


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Sen. Kaine Said That Clinton “Worked A Tough Negotiation” To “Eliminate The Iranian Nuclear Program.” SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): “She worked a tough negotiation with nations around the world to eliminate the Iranian nuclear weapons program without firing a shot.”(Sen. Tim Kaine, Vice Presidential Debate, Longwood University, Farmville, VA, 10/4/16)



The Washington Post Corrected Kaine That Not Only Did Clinton Not Negotiate The Iran Nuclear Deal, But The Deal Also Did Not Eliminate Iran’s Nuclear Weapons Program


“Kaine Leans Way Over The Skis Here,” As Clinton Did Not Negotiate The Iran Nuclear Deal And It Does Not Eliminate The Iranian Nuclear Weapon Program.“Kaine leans way over on his skis here. The Iranian nuclear agreement was actually negotiated by Clinton’s successor, John Kerry, though Clinton helped tee up the negotiations by increasing sanctions on the Islamic Republic.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Kaine On Eliminating Iran’s Nuclear Program,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)



The Iran Nuclear Deal Increases The Amount Of Time It Would Take Iran To Get A Nuclear Weapon, But “Expires In 15 Years, And Iran’s Nuclear Infrastructure Remains In Place.” “The deal, which has been sharply criticized by Republicans, did increase the amount of time that Iran would need to build a nuclear weapon by reducing its centrifuges for uranium enrichment and its stockpile of enriched uranium. But the deal expires in 15 years, and Iran’s nuclear infrastructure remains in place.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Kaine On Eliminating Iran’s Nuclear Program,”The Washington Post, 10/4/16)



Ultimately, The Iran Nuclear Deal “Does Not Eliminate The Risk That It Will Obtain Nuclear Bombs.” “While Iran has insisted it has no interest in building nuclear weapons, the deal does not eliminate the risk that it will obtain nuclear bombs.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Kaine On Eliminating Iran’s Nuclear Program,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)

 

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KAINE WRONGLY CLAIMS THAT THE BUSH TAX CUTS CAUSED THE ECONOMIC RECESSION, REPEATING CLINTON’S FALSE STATEMENT


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Kaine Asserted That The Bush Tax Cuts “Put The Economy Into The Deepest Recession Since The 1930s.” SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): “The second component of the plan is massive tax breaks for the very top, trillions of dollars of tax breaks for people just like Donald Trump. The problem with this, Elaine, is that’s exactly what we did 10 years ago and it put the economy into the deepest recession — the deepest recession since the 1930s.” (Sen. Tim Kaine, Vice Presidential Debate, Longwood University, Farmville, VA, 10/4/16)



Kaine’s Statement Doubles Down On Clinton’s, Which Earned Her Three Pinocchios From The Washington Post



“Kaine Repeats A Line That Recently Earned Hillary Clinton Three Pinocchios.”(Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Kaine On The Bush Tax Cuts,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)

• “No Credible Analyst Would Cite The Bush Tax Cuts As Playing A Key Role In Spurring The Economic Crash.” “But no credible analyst would cite the Bush tax cuts as playing a key role in spurring the economic crash.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Kaine On The Bush Tax Cuts,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)
• “Kaine Puts It Even More Starkly Than Clinton.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Kaine On The Bush Tax Cuts,” The Washington Post, 10/4/16)

 

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Pence turned to Kaine and slammed Clinton for calling half of the Republican supporters a 'basket of deplorables'. She said they were irredeemable, they were not American. It's extraordinary,' he said

 

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[h=6]- OCTOBER 04, 2016 -[/h][h=1]​TIM KAINE’S BIG ABORTION FLIP-FLOPS[/h]

Tim Kaine Has Gone From A “Conservative” On Abortion Who Valued The “Sanctity Of Life” To A Pro-Abortion Demagogue For The Sake Of Political Expediency​

Kaine Flip-Flopped On Whether He Considered Himself Pro-Life Or Pro-Choice:
In 2005, Kaine Ran Several Radio Ads Touting His Pro-Life Bona-Fides, Stating He Was “Conservative” On The Issue And Valued “The Sanctity Of Life.” “In one radio, Kaine declares his social conservatism on issues like same-sex marriage and parental consent for abortion, and banning late-term abortion. (Kaine’s position overall has been that he personally opposes abortion as a Catholic, but will support abortion rights.) ‘I’m conservative on issues of personal responsibility,’ Kaine said. “As a former Christian missionary, faith is central to my life. I oppose gay marriage, I support restrictions on abortion — no public funding and parental consent — and I’ve worked to pass a state law banning partial-birth abortion.’ In another ad, titled ‘conservative,’ Kaine says he will enforce the death penalty (which became an outsize issue in the 2005 campaign) and how he is ‘conservative on personal responsibility, character, family and the sanctity of life. These are my values, and that’s what I believe’” (Andrew Kaczynski, “Listen To Tim Kaine’s ‘I’m Conservative’ Radio Ads From 2005,” BuzzFeed, 7/23/16)

According To NARAL, Kaine Has Maintained A 100 Percent Pro-Choice Voting Record As Governor. “Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, noted his dramatic behavior shift. ‘While Senator Kaine has been open about his personal reservations about abortion, he’s maintained a 100% pro-choice voting record in the U.S. Senate,’ she said in a statement.” (Danielle Paquette, “Why Tim Kaine Can Oppose Abortion And Still Run With Hillary Clinton,” The Washington Post, 7/26/16)


Kaine Flip-Flopped On Partial-Birth Abortion:

As Governor, Kaine Backed A Partial-Birth Abortion Ban. “While in office, [Kaine] backed a so-called partial birth abortion ban, which prohibits a certain method of mid- and late-term abortion, though he supported exceptions in cases where a woman’s health was endangered.” (Nora Caplan-Bricker, “By Picking Anti-Abortion Tim Kaine, Hillary Is Testing Feminists’ Loyalty,” Slate, 7/22/16)

As A Senator, Kaine Voted Against A 20-Week Abortion Ban. “In the Senate, Kaine voted against a national 20-week abortion ban and voted against bills that contained language expanding the Hyde Amendment (which blocks federal funds from covering abortion).” (Emily Crockett, “Tim Kaine’s Evolving Views On Abortion, Explained,” Vox, 7/23/16)


Kaine Flip-Flop-Flip On The Hyde Amendment:

Early July 2016: Kaine Supports The Hyde Amendment, Which Bans “Most Medicaid Funding For Abortion.” “The Hyde Amendment, the budget rider that has banned most Medicaid funding for abortion, turned 40 this year. … Until recently, her running mate, Tim Kaine, was firmly in the second camp. When asked by a Weekly Standard reporter as recently as early July about the Democratic platform including strong anti-Hyde language, Kaine said, ‘I haven't been informed of that change, but I'm going to check it out. I have traditionally been a supporter of the Hyde Amendment, but I'll check it out.’” (Irin Carmon, “Tim Kaine Now Backs Lifting The Hyde Amendment Banning Abortion Funding,” NBC News, 7/27/16)

Late July 2016: Clinton Campaign Tells The Media That Kaine Now Opposes The Hyde Amendment. “In comments this week to CNN and Bloomberg News, the Clinton campaign has signaled that Kaine now had indeed checked it out and stands with Clinton on public funding of abortion. ‘He has said that he will stand with Secretary Clinton to defend a woman's right to choose, to repeal the Hyde Amendment,’ Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook told CNN.” (Irin Carmon, “Tim Kaine Now Backs Lifting The Hyde Amendment Banning Abortion Funding,”NBC News, 7/27/16)
July 31, 2016: Kaine Announces He Still Supports The Hyde Amendment. “Tim Kaine differs with Hillary Clinton on a longstanding rule banning federal taxpayer dollars from funding abortions, the Democratic vice presidential candidate told CNN's Jake Tapper on ‘State of the Union,’ in an interview that aired Sunday.” (Ruby Mellen, “Kaine Breaks With Clinton On Abortion Provision,” CNN, 7/31/16)

 

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[h=6]- OCTOBER 04, 2016 -[/h][h=1]​KAINE MADE A CAREER PROTECTING MURDERERS[/h]

KAINE HAS A HISTORY OF DEFENDING MURDERERS AND MAKING SURE THEY RECEIVE GENEROUS TREATMENT​

Lem Tuggle: Rapist And Murderer

Tuggle Raped, Sodomized, And Shot His Victim In The Chest Only Four Months After He Was Paroled From A 20-Year Sentence For Murdering A 17-Year Old Girl.“Tuggle, whose arm was emblazoned with a ‘Born to Die’ tattoo, was convicted of murdering Jessie Geneva Havens, 52, of Smyth County, Va., in 1983. Havens was raped, sodomized and shot in the chest only four months after Tuggle was paroled from a 20-year sentence for the 1971 murder of a 17-year-old girl.”(Tod Robberson, “Murderer Executed In Va. Prison,” The Washington Post, 12/13/96)

Kaine Sought To Argue That Sodomy Was Insufficient To Convict Tuggle Of Rape.“Although petitioner acknowledges that semen was found in the victim's rectum, no seminal fluid was found in or around the vagina.There was a small bruise at the entrance to the vagina, but there was no testimony concerning when the bruise occurred. The state's pathologist, Dr. Oxley, said that the bruise was consistent with penetration by ‘something, a penis, a finger, an object, something. … Petitioner argues that, given the lack of seminal fluid in or around the vagina and the lack of any injury or bruise in the vagina, there was insufficient evidence to convict Tuggle of rape.’” (Tuggle V. Thompson, 854 F. Supp. 1229, Civ. A. No. 92-0737-R, US District Court, W.D. Virginia, Roanoke, 6/8/94)

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Richard Lee Whitley: Murderer

As An Attorney, Tim Kaine Defended Richard Lee Whitley, Man Who Sexually Assaulted And Murdered His Elderly Neighbor And Who Had An Extensive Criminal History. “When the state sent 2,500 volts through the body of murderer Richard Lee Whitley on Monday night, a little bit of Timothy Kaine died, too. It's not that Kaine, Whitley's lawyer, thought his client was innocent. Whitley had a long criminal history and had confessed to the 1980 murder and sexual assault of an elderly Fairfax County neighbor.” (Frank Green, “From The RTD Archives: When The State Executed Murderer Richard Lee Whitley In 1987, A Bit Of Tim Kaine Died, Too,”Richmond Times Dispatch, 7/20/16)
Kaine Asserted That “Something Personal In Me Will Die” With Whitley. “‘For somebody who has a view like mine’ about life, said the 29-year- old Harvard University law graduate, ‘the pain is a very real thing. ... Something personal in me will die, too,’ when Whitley dies.” (Frank Green, “From The RTD Archives: When The State Executed Murderer Richard Lee Whitley In 1987, A Bit Of Tim Kaine Died, Too,”Richmond Times Dispatch, 7/20/16)

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Percy L. Walton: Murderer

As Governor Tim Kaine Commuted The Sentence Of Triple Murderer Percy L. Walton. “Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine has stopped tonight's execution of triple murderer Percy L. Walton and commuted his sentence to life in prison without parole, saying that Walton is mentally incompetent and that putting him to death would be unconstitutional.”(Jerry Markon, “Va. Governor Commutes Death Sentence,” The Washington Post, 6/10/08)

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Jens Soering: Murderer

Jens Soering Was Convicted Of Two Counts Of First Degree Murder And Had Been Denied Parole For Years. “Soering was given two consecutive life sentences for the first-degree murders of Derek and Nancy Haysom, who were stabbed in their Bedford County home. The son of a West German diplomat, he has been eligible for parole in Virginia since 2003 but has been turned down.” (Frank Green, “Murderer Jens Soering Could Be Sent To Prison In Germany,” Richmond Times Dispatch, 1/16/10)

Kaine Tried To Transfer Soering To Germany, Where He Could Be Released From Prison In Only Two Years. “Kaine spoke with reporters Wednesday for the first time since announcing his candidacy for the U.S. Senate. He was asked to explain why, in his final days as governor of Virginia, he asked the U.S. attorney to transfer Jens Soering to Germany, where he could be released from prison two years later.” (Andy Salsman, “Kaine Defends Attempt To Transfer Convicted Killer,” NBC, 4/7/11)

 

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[h=1]Fact-Check: Tim Kaine Claims Terror Threat ‘Has Decreased’ During Obama Era[/h] 10539
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[h=2]Asked during Tuesday night’s Vice Presidential debate whether the threat of terrorism in the United States has increased or decreased in the past eight years, Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine argued that the threat of terrorism has decreased “in some ways” because of the reduction in the number of deployed troops, the passage of the Iran nuclear deal, and the death of Osama bin Laden.[/h] “The terrorist threat has decreased in some ways because Bin Laden is dead,” Kaine argued, receiving the question to answer before rival Mike Pence. “The terrorist threat has decreased in some ways because the Iranian nuclear weapons program has been stopped,” he added, arguing that U.S. troops are also safer because there are “not 175,000 in a dangerous part in the world, there’s only 15,000.”
The death of Al Qaeda head Osama bin Laden with little strategy for what to do with the beheaded jihadi organization has led to the terror group splintering into multiple factions. Al Qaeda in Iraq, once led by former terror camp leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, evolved into what is now known as the Islamic State, led by self-appointed caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The Al Qaeda affiliated militia al-Nusra Front has officially severed from its parent terrorist group in Syria, and continues operating as a jihadist terror group under the name “Jabhat Fateh al-Sham.”
Despite parenting new, deadly terror threats, Al Qaeda itself remains extremely formidable, expanding out of terrorist attacks and into “drug trafficking affiliated with Mexican drug cartels, kidnapping for ransom, smuggling of arms, wildlife, coal, oil, gas, timber, precious metals, and people.”
“This has enabled them not only to become independent but also richer and more powerful,” according to a Global Terrorism Index (GTI) report.
Al Qaeda has also cemented itself in regions destabilized during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State, notably Libya and Yemen.
Kaine’s claim that the Iranian nuclear deal (the “Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action” – JCPoA) eliminates the Iranian nuclear program entirely has been proven inaccurate.
The Chairman of the 9/11 Commission has said that the threat of terrorism worldwide is greater in 2016 than in 2001. For a numerical analysis, the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) documented 32,685 terrorist-caused deaths in 2014, compared to slightly over 5,000 in 2001.

 

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Comparing Tim Kaine and Mike Pence on PolitiFact's Truth-O-Meter

By Joseph Cariz on Monday, October 3rd, 2016 at 1:53 p.m.

Mike Pence and Tim Kaine give speeches in a composite of photos (Associated Press)Vice-presidential candidates are traditionally expected to fulfill the roles of attack dogs and loyal surrogates. While other aspects of the 2016 race have defied expectations, this tradition remains largely intact for Democrat Tim Kaine and Republican Mike Pence.
Kaine has spent his time raising millions of dollars for the Clinton campaign in glitzy fundraisers while repeatedly slamming Donald Trump’s policy positions and controversial statements.

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Mike Pence has similarly kept up criticism of Hillary Clinton regarding topics such as Benghazi and her use of a private email server as secretary of state. He’s also staunchly defended Trump’s positions on issues such as immigration, and is often regarded as a moderating influence on the brash billionaire.
So far, the vice-presidential candidates have mostly stayed out of the spotlight. Although they frequently attack the opposing presidential candidate, they have rarely confronted each other directly.
That all changes on Tuesday night, when Kaine and Pence will be featured in the vice-presidential debate. The two undercards will have the chance to argue for their candidates and undermine their opponent’s records in front of millions of potential voters.
How do the vice-presidential candidates compare to each other?
Kaine is a familiar figure in Virginia politics. He served as mayor of Richmond from 1998 to 2001, before serving as lieutenant governor from 2002 to 2006. He was elected governor and served until 2010 before successfully running for the U.S. Senate in 2012.
Pence also has a long history in his home state of Indiana. Pence served as a U.S. congressman representing the Hoosier state’s Sixth Congressional District from 2001 to 2013, after which he was elected governor.

PolitiFact has looked at 39 of Kaine’s claims on the Truth-O-Meter. 77 percent of them were ranked as either True, Mostly True, or Half-True.
We’ve also looked at 26 of Pence’s statements. 58 percent were ranked as True, Mostly True, or Half-True.
Neither candidate has had any claims ranked as Pants on Fire.
Standouts from Kaine’s record
Even before the presidential election, Tim Kaine went on the record in November of 2014 to defend President Obama’s decision to bypass Congress on immigration. He said that every president since Eisenhower has taken executive action on the issue. His message was mostly correct, but Obama’s actions were far more sweeping and broader in scope than those of his predecessors. We gave it a Mostly True.
Before the Democratic convention, Kaine took to MSNBC to argue that Donald Trump wants to "privatize the Veteran’s Administration." The claim was part of a larger effort to undermine Trump’s perceived focus on improving the lives of vets nationwide. However, Trump never actually claimed that he wants to privatize the whole system. Rather, Trump wishes to provide veterans potential access to private providers. We gave Kaine’s claim a Mostly False.
In August, Kaine criticized Trump’s refusal to release his tax returns by stating that even Richard Nixon released his returns when he was running for president. However, we found that Nixon didn’t actually release his returns until a year after he was re-elected in 1972. We gave it a Mostly False.
Kaine has also defended his own record as governor and senator. He claimed that in the dark aftermath after the Virginia Tech shooting, his administration quickly acted to eliminate a loophole in gun laws to prevent mentally ill people who are potentially dangerous from obtaining a firearm. Kaine can claim credit for fixing the loophole, so we gave it a True.
Standouts from Pence’s record
Like his Democratic counterpart, Pence frequently lambasts his presidential opponent’s perceived weaknesses while giving toned-down versions of Trump’s more controversial arguments.
Back in July, Pence claimed that Hillary Clinton took thirteen hours to send help to besieged Americans during the 2012 Benghazi attack. However, the responsibility to send troops fell to the military chain of command, not Clinton. We rated the statement False.
Pence later drew a strong contrast between Trump and Clinton’s immigration policies. He received a True for correctly pointing out that Clinton wanted to expand upon Obama’s refugee resettlement program and increase the number of Syrian refugees to the U.S. by 550 percent.
In September, Pence defended Trump’s immigration stance by saying that the candidate has been completely consistent about his plans for undocumented immigrants. But the reality is that Trump has been vague and self-contradictory on the issue, so we gave Pence’s claim a False.
When not weighing in on the presidential candidates, Pence frequently touts his record as governor of Indiana. He’s claimed on multiple occasions that there are more people working in Indiana than ever before. Although he’s right about the raw numbers, the percentage of Hoosiers who are working isn’t as high as its peak in the year 2000. We gave it a Half True.
Kaine and Pence may rehash these arguments during the debate, but they may also make new claims and criticisms of both the presidential candidates and each other. As always, we’ll be there to check the facts.

 

[The Guesser]

Fact-checking the vice-presidential debate between Tim Kaine and Mike Pence

Editors, USA TODAY11:40 p.m. EDT October 4, 2016

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Did it seem like Mike Pence and Tim Kaine interrupted each other a lot during the vice presidential debate? Well, it's because they did. USA TODAY NETWORK

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A running compilation of fact-checking during the vice-presidential debate between Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence.
U.S. forces in Iraq: Pence said Clinton failed to keep U.S. troops in Iraq, leading to the rise of ISIS. An analysis by PolitiFact calls this "mostly false," concluding "there is no reason to believe the administration simply walked away from a deal to keep U.S. troops in Iraq."

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NEW TONIGHT: Pence said Clinton failed to keep U.S. troops in Iraq. Mostly False. http://bit.ly/2dD4Emk
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Pence’s refugee ban was indeed shot down: Kaine rightly noted that just this week a U.S. Court of Appeals blocked the Indiana governor’s order to halt federal funding for groups working to resettle Syrians in the state. Pence asserted that terrorists could pose as refugees to enter the U.S., a claim for which the court’s three judges – all conservative – found no evidence, as the New York Times pointed out.

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Fact Check: Governor Pence's ban on Syrian refugees.http://nyti.ms/2dtTkHO
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Kaine wrongly blames Bush tax cuts: Kaine compared Trump’s tax plan to that of George W. Bush in 2006, which Kaine claimed “put the economy into the deepest recession … since the 1930s.” That’s wrong, the Washington Post notes, as no credible economist would pin the Great Recession squarely on Bush’s tax cuts. The housing bubble was the major cause.

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Fact Check: Kaine repeats a line that recently earned Hillary Clinton 3 Pinocchios.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-vice-presidential-debate/fact-check-kaine-on-the-bush-tax-cuts/?tid=ss_tw …
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How much goes to charity? Pence stated that only 10 percent of the Clinton Global Foundation funds go to charities. A similar claim by Carly Fiorina's campain prompted FactCheck.org to take a look. While the effectiveness of the programs could not be measured, financial records show 88 percent of funds collected went to charities in 2013.

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LIVE FACT-CHECK: Pence claim that only 10 percent of Clinton Foundation money goes to aid is wrong. http://bit.ly/2bJRSl0
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Yup, he said leader. Kaine hit Pence hard for saying Russian President Vladimir Putin was a stronger leader than President Obama. Pence tried to spin his remark, even calling it "absolutely inaccurate," but this quote tweeted by PolitiFact is hard to refute.

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What Mike Pence said about Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin.
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Who brokered that Iran deal? The Washington Post said Kaine was "way over his skis" giving Clinton credit for the Iranian nuclear agreement. It was actually negotiated by Clinton’s successor as secretary of state, John Kerry. And despite Kaine's claim the agreement eliminated Iran's nuclear program, it only set limitations.

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Fact Check: Kaine is way over his skis on eliminating Iran's nuclear program https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-vice-presidential-debate/fact-check-kaine-on-eliminating-irans-nuclear-program/?tid=ss_tw …
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Immigration rhetoric: Kaine hammered Trump's immigration policy, saying it will lead to mass deportations. However, a deep dive by PolitiFact found the Republican presidential nominee has softened his position on deportations.

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LIVE FACT-CHECK: Kaine’s claim of a mass deportation force is misleading. Half True. http://bit.ly/2dq7jSq
9:43 PM - 4 Oct 2016

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Millions more living in poverty? Pence's claim that millions more people are living in poverty today compared to when President Obama took office in 2009 is a problematic statement. As the New York Times explains, poverty data is collected annually, allowing for wide interpretations of the data.

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Fact Check: Poverty in the Obama Era http://nyti.ms/2dr8KxG
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Squishy comparison on job creation: Pence's claim that his home state of Indiana created more jobs than Virginia did when Kaine was governor is difficult to back up. FactCheck.org points out that Kaine's tenure as governor was during the Great Recession, when job losses occurred in nearly every state.

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Pence makes faulty comparison on Virginia & Indiana unemployment rates: http://ow.ly/yjLQ304RyVD #VPDebate
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Foundation donors: Pence was quick to point out that the Clinton Global Foundation received donations from foreign governments while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. An analysis by PolitiFact found this to be true: Of the 25 donors that have contributed more than $5 million to the Clinton Foundation throughout the years, six are foreign governments.

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LIVE FACT-CHECK: True that the Clinton Foundation took foreign government $$ while Clinton was secretary of state. http://bit.ly/1UlhmDo
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Flame-proof pants? How do the candidates rate on PolitiFact's Truth-O-Meter? The nonpartisan news organization looked at 39 of Kaine's statements. 77 percent of them were rated either True, Mostly True, or Half-True. Compare that to 58 percent of 26 statements in those same categories by Pence. Neither candidate has had any claims ranked as Pants on Fire – something that can't be said for either of the presidential candidates.

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Compare the #TruthOMeter Scorecards of VP Candidates@mike_pence and @timkaine: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/03/fact-checking-vice-presidential-debate-kaine-pence/ …
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[h=2]Tim Kaine claims that the Bush-era tax cuts were a direct cause of the financial crisis[/h]

[FONT=&quot]The tax cuts signed by Bush lowered taxes on income, capital gains and dividends, and had several provisions to help married people, parents and the poor. They greatly benefited the wealthy, and unsurprisingly became a symbol of the way inequality in the US has yawned into a chasm between the rich and everyone else. But while inequality may be a destabilizing force in the economy, the tax cuts themselves were not one of the factors that drove the 2008 crisis.[/FONT]

 

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[h=2]Kaine: ‘15m new jobs’ gained in the Obama administration[/h]

[FONT=&quot]Kaine is cherry picking statistics, and the 15m figure is not correct in context. Since Obama took office in January 2009 the US has created 10.8m private-sector jobs, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Kaine is counting back from the depths of the economic recession, in early 2010, which would erase a full year off of Obama’s presidency.[/FONT]

 

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[h=2]Kaine: even Richard Nixon released his taxes[/h]
[FONT=&quot]Richard Nixon did not release his tax returns while running for president in 1960 or in 1968 – he released them in 1973, after his second term began. In 1968 Nixon only gave a limited glimpse of his to a magazine writer and only released the returns under pressure from the Watergate inquiry. He released the returns despite an audit by the IRS, which Trump has repeatedly claimed is his reason for not releasing returns.[/FONT]

 

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[h=2]Kaine: Trump and Pence want to privatize social security[/h]

[FONT=&quot]Neither Clinton nor Trump has proposed privatizing social security. Pence, on the other hand, supported a 2005 plan that would have modified the program into a private system.[/FONT]

 

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[h=2]Kaine: the nuclear deal with Iran has prevented Tehran from developing weapons[/h]


[FONT=&quot]The nuclear deal with Iran was finalized in July 2015, three years after the end of Clinton’s term as secretary of state, and it does not completely remove Iran’s nuclear program. It removes a reserve of medium-enriched uranium, cuts into its low-enriched uranium, and allows access to international inspectors.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Kaine also appears to exaggerate how quickly Iran could have developed a bomb. During negotiations, intelligence officials and analysts said they believed Iran wastwo to three months away from bomb capabilities. The terms of the deal extend that “breakout” ability to a year, and have restrictions extending over 10, 15 and 25 years.[/FONT]

 

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[h=2]Kaine: ‘A Republican FBI director’ concluded that there was no reasonable prosecutor who would charge Clinton with wrongdoing[/h]

[FONT=&quot]FBI Director James Comey was Bush’s deputy attorney general, and a registered Republican, but is no longer registered with the party. Comey did say that “no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case” against Clinton over her use of a private email server while secretary of state. But Comey also excoriated Clinton for “extremely careless” practices and found that she had spoken falsely repeatedly about the system.[/FONT]