Betall, you're just being obtuse.
Whatever.
Everybody reading gets it. Hopefully Scott notifies people that matter at JB about the alteration that can easily be made and makes this a better contest. Otherwise I'll just play for 25%, as there's really no point in conducting risky financial transactions when it's completely nonsensical.
Whatever.
Everybody reading gets it. Hopefully Scott notifies people that matter at JB about the alteration that can easily be made and makes this a better contest. Otherwise I'll just play for 25%, as there's really no point in conducting risky financial transactions when it's completely nonsensical.
Now I'm just being Obtuse .... LOL Whatever
I have Already Said, I GET IT TOO.
But you are Still Not Getting MY POINT. and the Only reason You Don't want to Get My Point, is because Now YOU have Funds Already in a Book that is being a Sponsor for an RX Contest. And Again, This is a RX Contest that is being Sponsored by JustBet. Not the other way around.
And Again I'm going to say, I 100% UNDERSTAND What You and a couple of other Guys in Here are Saying.
And IF I had just made a Deposit, a Month ago, 2 Months ago, and Still have Money in My Account. I Probably wouldn't want to make another Deposit for the Contest Either. But Then I would Understand that I would be Playing for Only 25% of the Prizes.
My problem is that You guys are absolutely not Understanding the other side of this.
Are we really discussing risky financial transactions here? It that what it comes down now? Just call or go online and put your the CC number or get a name for a money transfer and you're done.
If I sound like an ass I don't mean to but really don't get the issue. If we get 20 guys entering the contest and only a couple bother depositing then how many future contests do your expect to see? If we get 40 guys entering and 30 make deposits of at least $100 then the contest prizes get bigger.
The point of being the bookie is to take bets at -110 lines.
The point of a promotion by a bookie is to get more people to bet more money on those -110 lines with you.
You can accomplish Line 2 perfectly well without requiring a $100 deposit.
That's my point. Adding a caveat to the rules would only help JustBet's bottom line, not hurt it.
I miss BetJamaica.
The point of a promotion by a bookie is to get more people to bet more money on those -110 lines with you.
You can accomplish Line 2 perfectly well without requiring a $100 deposit.
That's my point. Adding a caveat to the rules would only help JustBet's bottom line, not hurt it.
I miss BetJamaica.
JUSTBET is a top notch operation in terms of safety in my opinion ......on other fronts, they lag.
Having said that, they are a business, and thus want to entertain profits with low risk,.........THEIR GIVEN RIGHT.
Having played at JustBet now for a few months, they are a shop that I would NOT recommend to many.............................AS RECREATIONAL AS THEY COME, but they are not shy to admit this.
For most here, better offshore operations to send funds other than JustBet..............
TheRX Advertisers 5DIMES, PINNACLE, and even SBG GLOBAL come to mind.................OF course HORIZON(HERITAGE) also.
all this over reaction to making a minimum $100 deposit to a sportsbook to bet with and get entered in a $2000 contest. Geez.
Fishhead, for most here, Justbet has nearly everything 99% of bettors need and want. I have accounts at most of the others you mentioned in the previous post so I know there is very little difference at all between books. You only need to go to other forums like sbr and others to see that no book is immune to criticism. It's only a tiny few that make all the noise but most understand that. I have received over 20 PM's asking me if these guys complaining are serious? All this fuss over a measly $100 entry fee?
2011 was JustBet's best year ever. We also paid out millions to our players. More than any previous year. We have one of the fastest payouts in the industry to US players. Our lines are as good as anyone's. We have 10 cent graduated lines for baseball. These are facts. All these reasons are why we almost doubled in size last year while other books went out of business or pulled out of the US market.
Fishhead, for most here, Justbet has nearly everything 99% of bettors need and want. I have accounts at most of the others you mentioned in the previous post so I know there is very little difference at all between books. You only need to go to other forums like sbr and others to see that no book is immune to criticism. It's only a tiny few that make all the noise but most understand that. I have received over 20 PM's asking me if these guys complaining are serious? All this fuss over a measly $100 entry fee?
2011 was JustBet's best year ever. We also paid out millions to our players. More than any previous year. We have one of the fastest payouts in the industry to US players. Our lines are as good as anyone's. We have 10 cent graduated lines for baseball. These are facts. All these reasons are why we almost doubled in size last year while other books went out of business or pulled out of the US market.
I'm not even participating and don't intend to, the whole point of my posting wasn't about making "this fuss", but simply to understand what you gain by this stipulation: It makes total sense for any new account to have them deposit and maybe for any account that was solely built on bonus funds. But I still don't see what any sponsor gains by requiring his customer to deposit an amount X, when said customer X has funds in his account that exceed the deposit requirement and thereby customer X can simply "recycle" his funds by withdrawing + (re-)depositing.
Yes, you get him to deposit, and yes, his deposit is put at risk. BUT: All that would have been the case without "recycling" the funds, too (he might have had even more money at risk before withdrawing and re-depositing less). As a matter of fact you don't get any NEW money by said customer that way. Instead he causes you additional transaction fees.
Again: I completely understand why you are doing these contests (generating more volume) and that existing customers aren't your target group in that case anyways. So giving them a chance to win 100% prizes is indeed very generous.
In my opinion it would totally make sense to limit the prizes to 25% for all existing customers from a business standpoint. I just don't get the reasoning, if you give existing customers a chance to win 100% prizes, what positive you get out of this particular stipulation.
I also know that these rules have been around for former contests, too. But just because something has been done a certain way in the past, doesn't necessarily mean that it's the most logical/best way to do it. I'm sure someone had his reasons to introduce this stipulation at some point, I just want to understand his/her reasoning (maybe the shop had a policy "in play", that made "recycling funds" impossible. In that case f.e. the stipulation would make sense). I just don't believe that any shop would have stipulations around, that would prefer "fund recyclers" (=added transaction costs/higher exposure for their payment processors) over "other" regular customers, that's all.
So the whole point is not about stirring up anything or talking bad about a sponsored contest, but just to point out a (potentially) pointless rule nobody (player+sponsor) except the payment processor wins by. Imo that's nothing a sponsor or mod should get mad about...just saying.
No one is mad here. Believe me. A couple guys don't want to deposit to enter a contest and I tried to give a reasonable explanation as to the reasoning behind it. It makes perfect sense to me and not to you. It's what it is. No matter how hard we try, I know we can't please 100% of the players. That's life. I don't want to discuss it further to be honest. Let's just bet on the games and win some money. That's all. Too bad you don't want to enter the contest but that's fine. I wish you luck with your bets.
Let's just have some fun.
