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Kodiak7 · Sep 6, 2006

all of my plays in the nba / cbb / mlb were posted before they went off I charged nothing for them. WIl made a no tout rule no touts in the forum.

ACE ACE goes tout and now we have the RULE CHANGES.. POINT IS: Wil has now changed the guidlines and allowed a paid tout to post. Now when ACE ACE stops posting here and he will. AND THEN You'll all say nothing..

And the fish will go to doc's and pay $99 a week / $375 amonth / $750 a year.. USE YOUR COMMON SENSE.. Ace is at his PEAK right now... If he stopped posting prior to the NFL season it would be a BIG mistake... Maybe this post will make him continue longer then a few weeks.. I DOUBT IT... And believe me from a money stand-point he is CRAZY to not stop and make you all follow for the $750 a year rate... DO THE MATH.... 50K in views = 10K in people... 10K = 2K willing to pay minimum X $750.... NICE WORK ACE... NICE WORK!

Nothing against you ACE.. You have been nothing but solid in your 2 years here and a GREAT poster.... I wish you the very best of luck..

Kodiak7 · Sep 6, 2006

And Wilheim you and Dante are the only to mederators that I know of here.. And you both do a great job and seem like good people.. TINCO, I have no idea who you are nor do I CARE..

I understand why you allow ACE to post.. I would also.. My entire point is when you do allow him you should allow all to post by a set of rules.. The same set that was in place prior.. No solciting. no emails. no BS about your other picks in the main forums... Hell, you didn't even allow Smokey to post a, "good luck" I mean come on guys.... Be men about it and if you allow one tout to post allow them all.. I don't care if a tout post 1 of his plays as long as he doesn't post anything about the rest.. How in the hell can you moderate if ACE continues to post all of his plays here or not anyway? And he already has informed everyone of his OTHER site to get his picks.. lol.... Its not that hard to figure out guys.... If he wasn't in this for the money he would not be here or at DOC'S selling his plays...

sean1 · Sep 6, 2006

This thread confirms it for me, Doc's sports makes things up.

Below is a recent email discussion I had with them. I was not going to post it until I just read their bio on Ace-Ace:

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Hello,

You may send a schedule to:

Sean ____

Your site looks great.

My only criticism would be I don't see any documentation of the picks that determine the records - few sites have them with SSB and Fezziks being the only two I know...

An excellent capper is glad to hit 54%. 54% long term turns you into a millionaire. 60%, although impossible, turns you into a billionaire.

When I see things like:

The 2006 season is here and we at Doc's Sports are on top of everything that is involved with MLB picks. Vince, our MLB man; has been with Doc's 15 out of our last 35 years in business. Vince is in the office seven days a week and has become well known as one of the best, in handicapping baseball. For those of you who like numbers - the last six years alone his baseball picks had a Weekly Top Game record of 102-56 and his Game of the Month is a solid 32-10.

it reads as false advertising to me and turns me away.

If someone is 32-10 over nearly 4 years on games of the month, there is no reason to sell picks - just bet them. Either that or the games were games that were around -300.

Those are my only thoughts. I prefer to see 550-480 than 500-100.... I am sure the general public prefers the 500-100.

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At 12:48 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:

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Please send me information about advertising on your website. I'm interested in basic text ads or banners.
Also, our 120 - page football publication are out and I would like to send you one for your review. This year we have published 250k copies. We are also interested a fair independent review of our publication and would be willing to pay for your services.

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This will be our 35<SUP>th</SUP> year in business. We are a small family run business and this year we are giving out publications away free (plus a small postage charge) on our website at http://www.docsports.com/football-schedule.html The cover price is normally $9.00

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sean1 · Sep 6, 2006

BTW, what is ACE-ACE's records on this site since he started posting picks (Preferably by year)

Thanks,

Sean

Kruser6 · Sep 6, 2006

Boxslayer32 said:
The truth is, whether you want to call Ace Ace a tout, a backstabber, a great capper, or a God - all touts (smokey, kodiak, rodfather, etc) have the same opportunities and priveledges as AceAce.

Why can't people understand this?

Two reasons Box

1.) Arrogance. Just flat out arrogant bastards.

2.) Jealousy, they can't be Ace so they decide to bash him as much as possible.

The truth is that if these touts were to post ALL thier plays for a season they would be discovered as the Frauds they are. Its bad for business when you have a longterm documentation of a losing record. Do you know how much money Ace could make from therx alone selling his plays? It would be ridiculous. He chooses not too because he is not a tout. He simply bets his own plays and then shares with the rest of us. That is what makes Ace . . well Ace!

Kodiak7 · Sep 6, 2006

one last thing I posted all of my plays here for over 5 years for free and did very well.. not just in football but everything.. Anyone that has been here longer then 2 season's will verify that.. So kruser your post holds no water..

minhboi03 · Sep 6, 2006

minh

How is your day today i have been looking at your post your are the best capper in this forum. Im just want to say thanks for helping us make money.

Kodiak7 · Sep 6, 2006

there is always a turnover at the RX. What will happen when ACE ACE who so dominates the two main forums like nobody has before goes away?

Or wrose yet what if he has a BAD season this year???

Boxslayer · Sep 6, 2006

Besides all of these other variables Kodiak, Ace Ace is not a tout. What hes doing is not considered to be a tout. He's somewhere in between a regular poster and a tout. But he cant be considered either.

He has not ran and sold his plays yet, although if I was him I would. He could make a million dollars easy by selling his picks. But he hasnt done that. You are just speculating what he is going to do and you cant ban people on speculation.

You are being offered to post ALL of your plays in every sport on this website for free, just like AceAce is.

Do you accept or decline?

It's that simple, my man.

Kodiak7 · Sep 6, 2006

^ what do you mean he is not a tout? He sells his picks at doc sports for $99 a week $375 a month or $750 a year.. Am I missing something here?

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TheRightSide · Sep 6, 2006

Yeah Kody you are missing something. Like the question that has been put to you more than a few times in this thread.

ARE YOU WILLING TO POST YOU'RE PLAYS ON THERX BEFORE THE GAME STARTS FOR FREE??????????????

It's a simple question that you fail to answer.

Ace Ace has not asked for a dime from anyone here at theRX. Can you say the same?

Boxslayer · Sep 6, 2006

Kodiak7 said:
^ what do you mean he is not a tout? He sells his picks at doc sports for $99 a week $375 a month or $750 a year.. Am I missing something here?

Dont play dumb Kodiak. Youre making yourself look foolish.

winbet · Sep 6, 2006

Whatever Ones opinion is, whenever you get a group of Gamblers that think all they have to do is put their cash down to collect, it goes tits

-up and gets ugly. :nopityA::drink:

ClipJoint · Sep 6, 2006

Kodiak7 said:
Am I missing something here?

I think you are missing ALL of his plays posted on this site for free.

TTinCO · Sep 6, 2006

TheRightSide said:
Yeah Kody you are missing something. Like the question that has been put to you more than a few times in this thread.

ARE YOU WILLING TO POST YOU'RE PLAYS ON THERX BEFORE THE GAME STARTS FOR FREE??????????????

It's a simple question that you fail to answer.

Can you answer this Kodiak? If not, I do believe that you are all done with this thead.

EveryGamblersDream · Sep 6, 2006

Ok I am in no ways friendly with Kodiak. I used to be ok with the guy & enjoyed posting in threads. However over the years that has gone by the wayside. As much as Kodiak won't believe this or even care, I happen to agree with a majority of what he is saying.

I have nothing against Ace Ace or anyone selling picks at any point & time. However some of you are either clueless or pretending to be as it serves a purpose.

It doesn't matter where someone sells plays, they are a "tout" like most of you choose to call them. If I posted everything I play (which I do) & turn around to sell on BuyMyPicks.com (not a real site & if it is I have no idea, just an example), each & everyone of you would call me a tout.

So now all of a sudden the definition gets a little muddy because it might serve some purpose whether business wise or personally.

I for one don't care if someone chooses to sell picks. Everyone good or bad has a right to do so. If someone is good at something, why not milk it for what it is worth?

However don't try to insult the intelligence of what a so called tout is. Why do you think he was recruited to that site to begin with? The answer is to sell plays & make some money which last I check is what all of you call a "tout".

Lets just be frank about it. this site along with others has proven in the past to change the rules if it served a purpose. If one won't admit to that well they are just living in their own world.

BadCo · Sep 6, 2006

EveryGamblersDream and others have a misconception of the definiton of a tout.

A person that sells picks is not autmaticly a tout,ones that won;t leave you alone like the guy at work that sells amway and you avoid at all cost is a tout.

tout: to solicit, peddle, or persuade importunately

importunate: troublesomely urgent : overly persistent in request or demand

Oh BTW

K7Sports

MLB: Cardinals [C.Carpenter] [ -201] 300 units to win 149.25 vs Nationals [B.Traber], September 6

LOSER

MLB: Tigers [K.Rogers] [-1.5 +134] 300 units to win 402.00 vs Mariners [G.Meche], September 6

LOSER

MLB: Athletics under 9.5 [-116] 300 units to win 258.62, September 6

LOSER

MLB: Tigers [K.Rogers] [ -156] 300 units to win 192.31 vs Mariners [G.Meche], September 6

LOSER

MLB: Cardinals [C.Carpenter] [-1.5 -125] 300 units to win 240.00 vs Nationals [B.Traber], September 6

LOSER

MLB: Braves [J.Smoltz - Game 1] [ -121] 300 units to win 247.93 vs Mets [D.Williams - Game 1], September 6

LOSER

Not really sure we can call Kodiac7 a tout either

Loser Yes

TTinCO · Sep 6, 2006

EveryGamblersDream said:
Lets just be frank about it. this site along with others has proven in the past to change the rules if it served a purpose.

Why wouldn't we? The vast majority of the posters here want Aces picks in the sports forums. Do you really think that we're going to let some rule that WE made stand in the way of that? Think about it

JustMe · Sep 6, 2006

Ace, best of luck...I hope they have to brink the cash in a freaking Brinks Truck...

GREENHEAD · Sep 6, 2006

Ace Ace has not asked for a dime from anyone here at theRX. Can you say the same?[/quote]

I dont think Ace-Ace can ask for any money from the posters.RX managment is compensating him for posting here already.
I'd love to book his plays this year.
Remember money up front!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!