Hey Wil, where are the pictures of the Red Sox piling on Shields? Or is that allowed in pink hat nation? And what difference does it make what Gomes is hitting on the year? Completely irrelevant. Crisp's slide the night before was done with nothing but bad intentions. He had no thoughts of actually stealing that bag. What a piece of shit. Since when is it not ok to block second base too? That looked like a good, fundamental play to me. It's not like he came down on his hand or anything. While you're at it, why don't you post some pics of the slide with Iwamura's height and weight compared to Coco's? He was coming in with a full head of steam too. Plus, he charged the mound so what happens out there is nobody's fault but his... It's too bad the pitch didn't hit im in the face
Typical Red Sox fan spin. Our guy did everything right, and theirs did everything wrong.
There were a lot of parties involved that did some shady things. Shields was protecting his teammate, and should have thrown at Crisp. I think Shields was trying to hit him in the nuts. Protecting teammates is part of baseball. Crisp charging the mound after all that happened the night before took a lot of guts.
Great takedown by Navarro.
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There were a lot of parties involved that did some shady things. Shields was protecting his teammate, and should have thrown at Crisp. I think Shields was trying to hit him in the nuts. Protecting teammates is part of baseball. Crisp charging the mound after all that happened the night before took a lot of guts.
Great takedown by Navarro.
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All Spin - photo shopped probably by a Boston Newspaper.
Sorry I didn't mean to be to critical of that great bunch of guys that play for Tampa Bay. Good series though as the cheaters from Boston somehow got lucky and swept the three games by a combined score of 19-6. Hell of an effort by Tampa with first place on the line though, can't say enough for their performance, especially in game one when they managed more than one run during the loss.
You DRay fans can relax now you get to play The Texas Rangers next.
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Sorry I didn't mean to be to critical of that great bunch of guys that play for Tampa Bay. Good series though as the cheaters from Boston somehow got lucky and swept the three games by a combined score of 19-6. Hell of an effort by Tampa with first place on the line though, can't say enough for their performance, especially in game one when they managed more than one run during the loss.
You DRay fans can relax now you get to play The Texas Rangers next.
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No doubt. The bitch move wasnt Crisp going after Shields, everyone watching knew it would happen Remy had said as much "it was just a question of when"
No, the bitch move was four Tampa players ganging up on Crisp to start off the brawl.
Shields saves some grace by not aiming for Coco's head, but we all know his throwing at him was intentional.
No, the bitch move was four Tampa players ganging up on Crisp to start off the brawl.
Shields saves some grace by not aiming for Coco's head, but we all know his throwing at him was intentional.
I am sure that all of the Red Sox players acted like true gentlemen in the fight. After all, they have all character guys, right? LOL. Crisp is a real angel for charging the mound, right? He should have known that it was coming. I am neither a Rays or Red Sox fan, but c'mon....see this with some objectivity, despite the fact it might be hard. As I said, lots of guilty parties here, no reason to isolate one team over the other, especially when you weren't there in the middle of it. Could have been a hundred things going on that weren't right.
Rays players, specifically Gomes and Crawford, acted with no class. No arguing that. Shields threw at a guy in retaliation for what his team thought was a borderline play. Nothing wrong with that. That's baseball, has been for many years. Shields throwing a haymaker when Crisp comes at him, good for him....
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Rays players, specifically Gomes and Crawford, acted with no class. No arguing that. Shields threw at a guy in retaliation for what his team thought was a borderline play. Nothing wrong with that. That's baseball, has been for many years. Shields throwing a haymaker when Crisp comes at him, good for him....
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I disagree with that. It was a bitch move for Crisp to charge the mound. He knew it was coming. It is part of the game. If he walks to first, there is no brawl, no piles, takedowns, or anything. The brawl started when Crisp charged the mound. Again, I am not defending the Rays, and especially not Gomes or Crawford, who should both have sizeable suspensions.
In addition, this brawl had nothing to do with the play on the field. Yes, Red Sox fans, you are still better than the TB Rays....congratulations.
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Whether it was Shields hitting Crisp or another pitcher hitting someone else, a bench clearing brawl was inevitable. But like 99% of all baseball fights, no punches are connected and thirty of so players roll around on the grass and dirt for 5 or 10 minutes. At least Shields didn't act like Clemens and throw for the skull. If they want to fight, let it go and stop hugging each other like a Duke basketball reunion.
Rays are just not very smart. Their philosophy for a long time is if you cant beat Boston, throw at them. They are very quick to perceive wrongs which require thowing at the red sox.
Maybe losing their pitcher in a game which could eventually cost them a playoff spot will shake something loose in their thinking, but the real answer is they didnt learn a thing. They probably feel wronged again
Maybe losing their pitcher in a game which could eventually cost them a playoff spot will shake something loose in their thinking, but the real answer is they didnt learn a thing. They probably feel wronged again
From The Official Website of The Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
BOSTON -- James Shields' night didn't last long. After hitting Dustin Pedroia with a 94-mph fastball in the first inning, giving up a single to J.D. Drew and allowing a titanic home run to Manny Ramirez, Shields quickly found himself down, 3-0.
He found himself out in the second inning after hitting Sox center fielder Coco Crisp, igniting a benches- and bullpens-clearing fracas.
After being hit in the left thigh, Crisp -- the son of a former boxer -- threw his bat and helmet to the dirt and charged the mound. Shields missed on his first punch but Crisp connected on a jab as catcher Dioner Navarro wrapped him from behind. At that point an enormous scrum had formed near the mound.
When the dust settled and order was restored, after about 15 minutes, three players -- Shields, Crisp and Rays designated hitter Jonny Gomes -- were ejected.
The melee was a followup to incidents in Wednesday's game, a 5-1 Sox win, in which Crisp took exception to Rays shortstop Jason Bartlett using his knee to block second base as Crisp was sliding in on a steal attempt. Crisp was safe on the play, but his left thumb was wrapped after the game.
"The intent [on the steal play] was to make an out," manager Joe Maddon said before Thursday's game. "The intent there was not to hurt, injure, [disable], etc."
Later in Wednesday's game, with Maddon on the mound during a pitching change, Maddon and Crisp, in the Boston dugout, exchanged heated words.
Despite Wednesday's incident, warnings did not appear to be given to the teams after Shields hit Pedroia.
Maddon said before Thursday's game that he did not expect any escalation of the events from Wednesday.
"No, I think the Red Sox got it. They get it," he said. "I have a lot of respect for the entire staff over there. [Sox manager] Terry [Francona] is not only one of the finest managers in this game, but he's also one of the finest people, and that speaks for the whole team. It's a classy group, and I am sure that they did not advocate what had happened [on Wednesday] also."
The Rays lost the first two of the three-game series with the Sox and had lost five straight to Boston entering Thursday's game after sweeping a three-game series at home in April.
Official Website of The Tampa Bay Devil Rays..
BOSTON -- James Shields' night didn't last long. After hitting Dustin Pedroia with a 94-mph fastball in the first inning, giving up a single to J.D. Drew and allowing a titanic home run to Manny Ramirez, Shields quickly found himself down, 3-0.
He found himself out in the second inning after hitting Sox center fielder Coco Crisp, igniting a benches- and bullpens-clearing fracas.
After being hit in the left thigh, Crisp -- the son of a former boxer -- threw his bat and helmet to the dirt and charged the mound. Shields missed on his first punch but Crisp connected on a jab as catcher Dioner Navarro wrapped him from behind. At that point an enormous scrum had formed near the mound.
When the dust settled and order was restored, after about 15 minutes, three players -- Shields, Crisp and Rays designated hitter Jonny Gomes -- were ejected.
The melee was a followup to incidents in Wednesday's game, a 5-1 Sox win, in which Crisp took exception to Rays shortstop Jason Bartlett using his knee to block second base as Crisp was sliding in on a steal attempt. Crisp was safe on the play, but his left thumb was wrapped after the game.
"The intent [on the steal play] was to make an out," manager Joe Maddon said before Thursday's game. "The intent there was not to hurt, injure, [disable], etc."
Later in Wednesday's game, with Maddon on the mound during a pitching change, Maddon and Crisp, in the Boston dugout, exchanged heated words.
Despite Wednesday's incident, warnings did not appear to be given to the teams after Shields hit Pedroia.
Maddon said before Thursday's game that he did not expect any escalation of the events from Wednesday.
"No, I think the Red Sox got it. They get it," he said. "I have a lot of respect for the entire staff over there. [Sox manager] Terry [Francona] is not only one of the finest managers in this game, but he's also one of the finest people, and that speaks for the whole team. It's a classy group, and I am sure that they did not advocate what had happened [on Wednesday] also."
The Rays lost the first two of the three-game series with the Sox and had lost five straight to Boston entering Thursday's game after sweeping a three-game series at home in April.
Official Website of The Tampa Bay Devil Rays..
