Just for the record

[russ1945]

Just for the record. Many of us on this forum are here primarily because of sports. After all this is the world’s largest sports forum for those who may not have already known. I personally keep a thread on college football. The political forum is something I drifted onto post Obama and became active in.

When you post on college football not everyone agrees with you all the time. You have back and forths when rivalry games are involved. There are conference discussions, which is best etc. But in the end you have contributors with a common bond, winning ATS. We share information, discuss the upcoming season, discuss the weekly matchups and bowls. The results speak for themselves. By the end of the season a team either meets expectations or not and the results speak for themselves.

The same applies to politics. I am sick and tired of what goes on with the Obama apologists. Why because you can discuss the presidency and this administration forever and in the end it is just like what happens in college football, Obama and his administration either meet expectations or not and the results speak for themselves.

Look around at this promised era of transparency and the outrageous number of scandals involving this President and his administration. The IRS, the VA Hospitals, EPA out of control, a do nothing Attorney General, Benghazi, Fast and Furious just to name a few. Everyday the discussions abound and the aplologists thrive. Again, just like in football, is Obama meeting expectations (Hope and Change). Well things have changed but not for the better even the GPS hit an all time low recently.

I would like to see more participation in the sports areas especially by the political forum dwellers. Guys like Rolltide and Willie participate as do many others. But if people on the political forum would get involved with what the forum is really all about maybe we could find some common ground upon which to build on. Until Obama does something right I will continue to scrutinize him and his administration but I will also do my things with the college football forum. Maybe this part of the forum is a way to release tensions and get it out of your system. The biggest difference is that this is a direct rivalry, liberals vs. conservatives, democrats vs. republicans, and even anti-Obama vs apologists. I wish all the discussions about Obama were about how great the economy is, and how much better off this country is since he has been in office. But, that is not the case. So if you want to expend some energy in some other areas try one of the sports forums also. If we were all as enthusiastic about sports as about politics we could actually combine resources for the common good. Imagine that.

 

[ScottL]

Russ I get you. But if I were to post a pick thread I'd probably do it right here. Just more fun for me here and the posts don't just drift down the page. Already have done a few.

I started a thread years ago called, "Barman's Rays." It's gone now because he merged it LOL. The angle was to bet TBAY in Game #2 of a Home Series if they did not win Game#1 by more than 4 Runs. I still track it. TBAY is now 87-32 in that spot, but that includes this year at only 4-4.

 

[cloverleaf]

Russ, just for the fun of it here's a little sports/politics analogy regarding the worst president in the history of this great country. Remember back when Doug Weaver coached Kansas State football for seven years. Similar to Obama destroying America, Weaver did the same for K-State. During his time in charge, the Wildcats won 8 times while losing 61 games. He went winless three seasons and scored less than 10 points in a game 52 of 69 games. In other words...he was lost, over his head, not qualified when Kansas State finally got the message that times were getting worse and wouldn't get any better.

Damn strong parallel to the sorry ass leader we now have in the white house. Two and a half more years of this con artist...impeach his ass now before he does more harm that we have to dig out of.

The happiest person in the world is former president Jimmy Carter who now doesn't have to carry the tag as worst president in the 20th century.

 

[BleedingPurple]

Just for the record. Many of us on this forum are here primarily because of sports. After all this is the world’s largest sports forum for those who may not have already known. I personally keep a thread on college football. The political forum is something I drifted onto post Obama and became active in.

When you post on college football not everyone agrees with you all the time. You have back and forths when rivalry games are involved. There are conference discussions, which is best etc. But in the end you have contributors with a common bond, winning ATS. We share information, discuss the upcoming season, discuss the weekly matchups and bowls. The results speak for themselves. By the end of the season a team either meets expectations or not and the results speak for themselves.

The same applies to politics. I am sick and tired of what goes on with the Obama apologists. Why because you can discuss the presidency and this administration forever and in the end it is just like what happens in college football, Obama and his administration either meet expectations or not and the results speak for themselves.

Look around at this promised era of transparency and the outrageous number of scandals involving this President and his administration. The IRS, the VA Hospitals, EPA out of control, a do nothing Attorney General, Benghazi, Fast and Furious just to name a few. Everyday the discussions abound and the aplologists thrive. Again, just like in football, is Obama meeting expectations (Hope and Change). Well things have changed but not for the better even the GPS hit an all time low recently.

I would like to see more participation in the sports areas especially by the political forum dwellers. Guys like Rolltide and Willie participate as do many others. But if people on the political forum would get involved with what the forum is really all about maybe we could find some common ground upon which to build on. Until Obama does something right I will continue to scrutinize him and his administration but I will also do my things with the college football forum. Maybe this part of the forum is a way to release tensions and get it out of your system. The biggest difference is that this is a direct rivalry, liberals vs. conservatives, democrats vs. republicans, and even anti-Obama vs apologists. I wish all the discussions about Obama were about how great the economy is, and how much better off this country is since he has been in office. But, that is not the case. So if you want to expend some energy in some other areas try one of the sports forums also. If we were all as enthusiastic about sports as about politics we could actually combine resources for the common good. Imagine that.

Well people apologize when there is false blame. The VA stuff has nothing to do with O, they have been bad for a long long time, when he said the director was doing a good job then that is when I take issue.

All I will say is take the Vikings +6.

 

[russ1945]

Well people apologize when there is false blame. The VA stuff has nothing to do with O, they have been bad for a long long time, when he said the director was doing a good job then that is when I take issue.

All I will say is take the Vikings +6.

"Among the many boasts then-Sen. Obama made when running for president in 2008 was that he would “build a 21st century VA.” Obama, touting his brief membership on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee before groups like the VFW, vowed to fix the broken bureaucracy by slashing red tape and providing every living vet with electronic medical records. He promised that reforming the VA would be one of his top priorities."

So is Obama a HC or a spectator. If the VA was bad for a long long time why did he make a promise he did not keep.
It is all on him, he made the promise and thus became his responsibility to follow through on. Just another incomplete pass. Actually you could say he got sacked because he never he got the pass off. It has been 4th and long for almost 6 years now, getting old. So why are you apologizing after he is on record making that statement.

 

[SheriffJoe]

"Build a 21st Century VA!"

:neenee:

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Well people apologize when there is false blame. The VA stuff has nothing to do with O, they have been bad for a long long time, when he said the director was doing a good job then that is when I take issue.

All I will say is take the Vikings +6.

"Among the many boasts then-Sen. Obama made when running for president in 2008 was that he would “build a 21st century VA.” Obama, touting his brief membership on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee before groups like the VFW, vowed to fix the broken bureaucracy by slashing red tape and providing every living vet with electronic medical records. He promised that reforming the VA would be one of his top priorities."

So is Obama a HC or a spectator. If the VA was bad for a long long time why did he make a promise he did not keep.
It is all on him, he made the promise and thus became his responsibility to follow through on. Just another incomplete pass. Actually you could say he got sacked because he never he got the pass off. It has been 4th and long for almost 6 years now, getting old. So why are you apologizing after he is on record making that statement.

Yo BP, you need to stick with making picks.

 

[russ1945]

Here is the whole article:

[h=1]Obama’s broken VA promise[/h]

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BY Tom Bevan June 10, 2014 11:20PM




Updated: June 10, 2014 11:22PM


In an era when it is commonplace to speak about government services in denominations of millions, billions, and (when we think of the federal debt) even trillions, 57,000 may not seem like a very large number. But when you put that number in human terms — it’s enough bodies to fill every seat in Dodger Stadium plus a thousand people left over — it becomes a very significant figure.
It becomes an even larger number still — scandalously large — when you realize that every one of those bodies represents a United States military veteran who has waited in excess of 90 days for their first doctor’s appointment at a VA medical facility.
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs concluded after its internal audit of 731 VA facilities around the country, which was released Monday. The audit confirmed the worst suspicions that have arisen about the agency since Sam Foote, a 61-year-old doctor working at the VA hospital in Phoenix, blew the whistle late last year about the existence of secret waiting lists.
Defenders of the Obama administration are quick to argue the VA crisis was a decade or more in the making. They’ll also point out that President Obama has increased the VA’s budget substantially since he took office.
There is truth to both of those claims. Yet, of all the scandals that have dented the administration’s credibility over the last few years, perhaps none falls more squarely on the shoulders of the president than this one.
Among the many boasts then-Sen. Obama made when running for president in 2008 was that he would “build a 21st century VA.” Obama, touting his brief membership on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee before groups like the VFW, vowed to fix the broken bureaucracy by slashing red tape and providing every living vet with electronic medical records. He promised that reforming the VA would be one of his top priorities.
But in one of the most disappointing recurring themes of this administration, it turns out the president did a much better job speechifying about how to solve the problem than he did actually solving it.
We now know that Obama and his aides were briefed in late 2008 — during his transition into office — on problems with unreliable wait time data at the VA. Yet it was never a priority of his administration.
Obama did follow through on his promise to request increased funding for the agency, which Congress supplied. But throwing a little more money at the VA wasn’t ever going to be enough solve its problems. Likewise, administration officials thought they could fix the burgeoning crisis in wait times by issuing a mandate declaring no veteran would have to wait more than 14 days for an appointment.
This proclamation may have sounded good, but without implementing any other reforms it was utterly unrealistic. Worse, in the absence of a new vision and competent leadership, the president’s directive exacerbated the problems. By tying performance bonuses of VA hospital administrators to the new mandate, the administration created a system-wide incentive for agency officials to cook the books to make wait times look shorter than they were.
And that’s exactly what they did. The VA audit revealed that nearly one in eight of the 3,772 staff members questioned said they were told to falsify appointment logs.
When you strip away the politics and the rhetoric surrounding the issue, in the end we’re left with an inescapable fact: After 5½ years under the management of this president and his administration, the VA system remains badly broken. It continues to fail our veterans in the most fundamental way, providing timely access to physicians and basic care.
That is a national scandal, and it must be fixed.
Obama still has three years left in his term to reform the VA. It will require the kind of tedious, difficult — and bipartisan — work this president has thus far seemed unable or unwilling to undertake. But he now has 57,000 more reasons to make sure he fulfills the promise he made to veterans years ago.
Tom Bevan is the co-founder and Executive Editor of RealClearPolitics and the co-author of “Election 2012: A Time for Choosing.”

 

[russ1945]

When a college HC comes to a new school and promises to turn everything around and does not, he usually is gone in 3-4 years. He is under contract, Obama is under oath. He did not swear to improve the VA but he did promise to do that. Here is an interesting antedote concerning Obama's oath of office:

On January 21, 2009, Chief Justice Roberts administered the presidential oath a second time to Barack Obama "out of an abundance of caution," according to the White House, because, when the oath was administered to President Obama the first time in the public inauguration ceremony, the word "faithfully" was misplaced. The second oath was administered in a simple, private ceremony in the Map Room of the White House.[SUP][20][/SUP][SUP][29][/SUP][SUP][30][/SUP][SUP][31][/SUP] Obama's oath-retaking differed from all his predecessors' in that the private ceremony happened after the public one. Obama's two oaths in 2009 and his two oaths in 2013 tie him with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, each taking the oath four times, the most ever recorded.[SUP][32]

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