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The family and friends of former Dallas Cowboys linebacker Jerry Brown had stayed out of the public eye for the most part since the Saturday morning car accident that took Brown's life and put the driver, Cowboys defensive lineman Josh Brent, in jail on intoxication manslaughter charges. That changed Monday, and the results were captivating. On Tuesday, Brent attended Brown's funeral at Dallas' Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship, where team chaplain Tony Evans serves as pastor. He did so with Brown's family because Brown's family is capable of stunning gestures of love and forgiveness.

[Related: Chilling details emerge in accident that killed Cowboys' Jerry Brown]

Released on $500,000 bond on Sunday, Brent visited the team facility on Monday, was checked out by trainers, and spoke to head coach Jason Garrett, who said that Brent was "very distraught." The entire Cowboys organization also attended the service.

"What we want to do as an organization, as players, as coaches and this entire organization is let him know he should feel supported everywhere he turns," Garrett said of Brent on Monday. "That's what we want to express to him. It's a very challenging situation for him. He and Jerry are best friends. They have known each other since college. They were very close in college, very close since they've been here together, and it's a really, really difficult situation for him. We want to make him feel that there are people around him who can help him get through this thing day by day."

Stacey Jackson, Brown's mother, accelerated that generosity of spirit to an entirely new level. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sent his own plane so that Brown's family could arrive in Dallas for the service, and Jackson asked that Brent meet the family at the airport, ride with her to the service, and sit with the family while Brown was remembered.

"I was upset, but I realized that our youth today are young and stupid, and we were all once that age, and we've all done things we're not proud of," Jackson said on Monday's "Piers Morgan Tonight" show on CNN. "I realized that everyone thinks they're invincible, and everyone thinks, 'it's not going to happen to me.' I know Josh Brent, and he's been part of our family since Jerry went to the University of Illinois -- all I can do is to pray for him and his family. I know [Brent] is hurting just as much as we are, because [he] and Jerry were like brothers."
 

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It sucks either way you look at it. Yes, i am an alcoholic that fights for people to not drink and drive, but i do know that if you fall under the law requirements of 0.08 or whatever it is in your area. then you are ok in the eye's of the law.

Unfortunately, both of these guys were over, and that is a shame. Use a service when you have that much cash, and for the rest of us, plan ahead please.
 

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Do you even know what the word "refute" means? Because it makes no sense in the context of your post.

that's what you want to comment on? Refute by definition means "to overthrow by argument or proof". In this case, it was the proof I read in eyewitness account that overthrew my original stance.

Congrats once again zit for contributing valuable insight to the discussion.
 

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So...it's ok for a REPEAT DUI offender to endanger his passenger by drinking and driving as long as he pulls him out
of a burning car by his own free will? Ignorant

These players have every resource available to them to easily prevent this.
It's ok to do it period, someone has to drive.
 

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Don't be such an asshole.

I would have sympathy for someone who is by and large a good person, but makes a mistake and drinks and drives (as many people do), resulting in someones death. That would be a horrific thing to live with. But this guy doesn't fit that profile.


just ignore some people, the internet gives everyone a voice

when somebody feels it's necessary to say what he said, just don't bother

most of the world would be on your side
 
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that's what you want to comment on? Refute by definition means "to overthrow by argument or proof". In this case, it was the proof I read in eyewitness account that overthrew my original stance.

Congrats once again zit for contributing valuable insight to the discussion.

God, you just aren't very bright are you? You just keep digging deeper holes for yourself.

Here is your original quote:

"I initially had sympathy for this driver, but I want to completely refute that. This guy is a piece of shit. I hope he rots in jail for this. "

So, you're saying that you initially had sympathy for the driver, but you're going to "overthrow by argument or proof" that you had sympathy?

Is English your first language?
 

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Willie99;9743039[B said:
]just ignore some people,[/B] the internet gives everyone a voice

when somebody feels it's necessary to say what he said, just don't bother

most of the world would be on your side

you're right. There are two or three on this site that should just be ignored at all times.
 

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It sucks either way you look at it. Yes, i am an alcoholic that fights for people to not drink and drive, but i do know that if you fall under the law requirements of 0.08 or whatever it is in your area. then you are ok in the eye's of the law.

Unfortunately, both of these guys were over, and that is a shame. Use a service when you have that much cash, and for the rest of us, plan ahead please.


What were their readings??
 

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I cannot blame someone for not throwing themselves into a fire, risking their own death, when in all but the most rarest of circumstances (I am absolutely talking blood relation), I wouldn't do it myself.
 

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That said, anyone who drunk drives (I've done it, not proud of it, but it is what it is) deserves any hell-on-earth punishment they receive if they are not only caught in the act (which, clearly, an accident does), but also end another human's life. May Brent rot with the guilt that he feels. If I, as a college graduate and only middle-class am able to call a cab at any point in my town to get me home, absolutely a professional athlete has tenfold the amount of resources to get home safely.

I wouldn't jump in a fire either but fuck him.
 

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God, you just aren't very bright are you? You just keep digging deeper holes for yourself.

Here is your original quote:

"I initially had sympathy for this driver, but I want to completely refute that. This guy is a piece of shit. I hope he rots in jail for this. "

So, you're saying that you initially had sympathy for the driver, but you're going to "overthrow by argument or proof" that you had sympathy?

Is English your first language?

This made me laugh this morning.
 
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My whole take on this thread is that you can't judge Josh Brent solely on the fact that he didn't jump in and save his friend.

The guy was just in a serious car accident and was probably in shock. Most likely he suffered a blow to the head, we just don't know.

But if you've ever been in a serious car crash, or have been around people that have - they're not exactly thinking clearly minutes afterward.
 

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Report: Josh Brent’s blood alcohol level was 0.18

Posted by Michael David Smith on December 13, 2012, 8:37 AM EST
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APCowboys defensive tackle Josh Brent had a blood alcohol level of more than double the legal limit when he crashed his car on Saturday, killing his teammate Jerry Brown.
The Dallas Morning News reports that Brent’s blood alcohol level was 0.18. The legal limit is 0.08.
According to BloodAlcoholCalculator.org, a person Brent’s weight, 320 pounds, would reach a 0.18 blood alcohol level after drinking 21 shots over a five-hour period.
Police say Brent failed field sobriety tests after the crash. Because Brown died, the law allowed Brent’s blood to be drawn against his will.
Brent faces a charge of intoxication manslaughter in Brown’s death. Brent has been released from jail on $500,000 bail, which his attorney, George Milner, described as excessive.
“It’s outrageous. It’s offensive,” Milner said.
Milner was talking about his client’s bail amount, but many would use the same words to describe a person driving after 21 drinks.


Okay so here is my take on this blood alcohol reading. Is the high .18 level supposed to taint the public and potential jury pool so they can say oh my gosh this guy was really drunk he should have known better than to get behind the wheel? I think the higher the blood level the more it proves that the person who gets behind the wheel drunk was not in the right frame of mind to make an intelligent decision such as trying to drive himself home. The establishment that served the person 21 drinks should have asked him for his car keys at the same time they asked him for his credit card to open up a tab.

Point #2 sure blame goes to the driver for getting behind the wheel drunk with passengers. But what about the passenger they too should take responsibility in their own death for allowing themselves to get in the car with somebody who is shit faced. Just cause you ain't driving that doesn't mean you shouldn't drink responsibly.
 

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two drunk NFL players and the money to easily hire a driver or at least a cab. The driver is no more guilty than the passenger.....and it's probably a myth that the driver survives at a much higher rate than the passenger. Which one owned/ stole/ jacked the car ?

I assume the more sober one was driving, or at least the passenger was drunk !
 

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.18 isn't all that bad really....it's a level where one should not drive certainly, but it's also a level where one can still function and say play Blacljack/ Poker at a high level and even count cards or just play good poker. Tolerance is a big factor. I can drive just fine being a bit over the limit.

Do you think you could kick the (__*__) of whoever is the heavyweight boxing champion now and he's a .20 and you're sober ?
 

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Do you think you could kick the (__*__) of whoever is the heavyweight boxing champion now and he's a .20 and you're sober ?

No way. Boxers throw power punches for a living. a punch from a heavyweight to an ordinary person would be like getting hit with a bat. They would just need to connect once and most of us aren't trained to be dodging punches even if they are haymakers from a drunk bastard. The more logical thing that would happen is sober you wouldn't even land a punch but if he is drunk you could get in a lucky shot and he would be so drunk and numb he wouldn't even feel it.
 

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What were their readings??

I guess it would be interesting to know just how bad reaction times are at each point.


Remember that WKRP epsiode when Johnny's reaction time gets faster when drinking?
 

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