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He made bad decisions last year as well but had Evans there to bail him out. Hes not the first rookie to have a nightmare of a first game. He just made Hoyer a shitload of money though
 

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Manziel 10 of 18, 80 yards passing, two INTs, 3 sacks taken, 13 yards rushing.

Horrible.
 

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He made bad decisions last year as well but had Evans there to bail him out. Hes not the first rookie to have a nightmare of a first game. He just made Hoyer a shitload of money though

Is hoyer his coke supplier?

Otherwise not sure I see what you are saying
 

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I think the guy will have a good moment or two this season to make people say WOW, but....face)(*^%
 

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His level of sucktitude just got a little higher. I hope he's saving his money...
 

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Is hoyer his coke supplier?

Otherwise not sure I see what you are saying

Hoyer has a winning record even though he has shit around him. People thought that Hoyer was the problem, but he can now argue that the Browns would have done much worse without him, making him more valuable
 

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Hoyer has a winning record even though he has shit around him. People thought that Hoyer was the problem, but he can now argue that the Browns would have done much worse without him, making him more valuable

That will be a hell of an argument to make. Thinking GMs might have a few different responses for it.

Good luck to his agent with it
 

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The difference in records when he is the qb and when he isnt is pretty drastic the last 2 years.

Doesn't mean he is any good. He is just better than the other guys they've had (Campbell, Weeden, possibly JFF)

I think you'll be surprised at how little someone else doing terrible does for his market value but we'll see.
 

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Didn't most of us already predict this to happen a year ago? Somebody needs to hunt up one of those Johnny Football prediction threads. You can probably cross reference to the Tebow/future ESPN analyst threads..
 

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Didn't most of us already predict this to happen a year ago? Somebody needs to hunt up one of those Johnny Football prediction threads. You can probably cross reference to the Tebow/future ESPN analyst threads..

probably cross reference Mariota a bust also
 

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The game was too fast for him and he doesn't have the arm talent to run around and throw it like he did in college. It's a huge transition for him to learn how to play in a pro-offense and if he does that fluttering deep ball is going to keep him pretty limited.
 

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