John Stockton Holds The Most Underrated, Most Underappreciated, Most Impressive All-Time Record(s) In Sports History

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Just my opinion of course, but I've never understood why the amazing combination of the 2 feats below go so unnoticed.

Because he not only holds One All-Time NBA record on the offensive side of the ball...


<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600><TBODY><TR><TD class=cBComp height="100%" vAlign=top width="100%" align=left><TABLE class=" gSGTable" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=700><TBODY><TR><TD class="bar gSGSectionTitle" colSpan=4>All Time Leaders: Assists </TD></TR><TR class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=300 noWrap>Player </TD><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=100 noWrap align=right>G</TD><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=100 noWrap align=right>APG</TD><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=100 noWrap align=right>AST</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>1. John Stockton </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,504</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>10.5</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>15,806</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>2. Jason Kidd </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,187</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>9.2</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>10,923</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>3. Mark Jackson </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,296</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>8.0</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>10,334</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>4. Earvin Magic Johnson </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>906</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>11.2</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>10,141</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>5. Oscar Robertson </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,040</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>9.5</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>9,887</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>6. Isiah Thomas </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>979</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>9.3</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>9,061</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>7. Gary Payton </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,335</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6.7</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>8,966</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>8. Steve Nash </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,015</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>8.3</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>8,397</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>9. Rod Strickland </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,094</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7.3</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7,987</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>10. Maurice Cheeks </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,101</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6.7</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>7,392</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>11. Lenny Wilkens </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,077</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6.7</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7,211</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>12. Terry Porter </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,274</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>5.6</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>7,160</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>13. Tim Hardaway </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>867</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>8.2</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7,095</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>14. Bob Cousy </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>924</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>7.5</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,955</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>15. Guy Rodgers </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>892</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7.8</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,917</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>16. Muggsy Bogues </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>889</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>7.6</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,726</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>17. Kevin Johnson </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>735</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>9.1</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,711</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>18. Derek Harper </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,199</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>5.5</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,577</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>19. Nate Archibald </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>876</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7.4</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,476</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>20. Stephon Marbury </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>846</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>7.6</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,471</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>21. Andre Miller </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>897</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>7.2</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,465</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>22. John Lucas </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>928</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>7.0</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,454</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>23. Reggie Theus </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,026</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6.3</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,453</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>24. Norm Nixon </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>768</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>8.3</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,386</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>25. Jerry West </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>932</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6.7</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,238</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>26. Scottie Pippen </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,178</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>5.2</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,135</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>27. Clyde Drexler </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,086</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>5.6</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6,125</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>28. John Havlicek </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,270</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>4.8</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6,114</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>29. Mookie Blaylock </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>889</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>6.7</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>5,972</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>30. Sam Cassell </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>993</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>6.0</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>5,939</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD class=cBSide noWrap>



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He also holds a second All-time NBA record on the defensive side of the ball......


<TABLE class=" gSGTable" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=700><TBODY><TR><TD class="bar gSGSectionTitle" colSpan=4>All Time Leaders: Steals </TD></TR><TR class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=300 noWrap>Player </TD><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=100 noWrap align=right>G</TD><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=100 noWrap align=right>SPG</TD><TD class=gSGSectionColumnHeadings width=100 noWrap align=right>STL</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>1. John Stockton </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,504</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2.17</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>3,265</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>2. Michael Jordan </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,072</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2.35</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2,514</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>3. Gary Payton </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,335</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.83</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2,445</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>4. Jason Kidd </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,187</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.97</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2,343</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>5. Maurice Cheeks </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,101</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2.10</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2,310</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>6. Scottie Pippen </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,178</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.96</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2,307</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>7. Clyde Drexler </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,086</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2.03</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2,207</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>8. Hakeem Olajuwon </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,238</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.75</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2,162</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>9. Alvin Robertson </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>779</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2.71</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2,112</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>10. Karl Malone </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,476</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.41</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2,085</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>11. Mookie Blaylock </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>889</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2.33</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2,075</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>12. Allen Iverson </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>914</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>2.17</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,983</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>13. Derek Harper </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,199</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.63</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,957</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>14. Isiah Thomas </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>979</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.90</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,861</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>15. Earvin Magic Johnson </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>906</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.90</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,724</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>16. Ron Harper </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,009</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.70</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,716</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>17. Fat Lever </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>752</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>2.22</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,666</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>18. Charles Barkley </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,073</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.54</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,648</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>19. Gus Williams </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>825</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.99</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,638</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>20. Hersey Hawkins </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>983</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.65</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,622</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>21. Eddie Jones </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>954</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.70</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,620</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>22. Rod Strickland </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,094</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.48</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,616</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>23. Mark Jackson </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,296</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.24</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,608</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>24. Terry Porter </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,274</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.24</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,583</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>25. Doc Rivers </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>864</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.81</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,563</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>26. Larry Bird </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>897</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.73</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,556</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>27. Doug Christie </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>827</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.88</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,555</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>28. Kobe Bryant </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,021</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.52</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,554</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowEven>29. Nate McMillan </TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>796</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1.94</TD><TD class=gSGRowEven align=right>1,544</TD></TR><TR><TD class=gSGRowOdd>30. Jeff Hornacek </TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,077</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1.43</TD><TD class=gSGRowOdd align=right>1,536</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




Neither record looks to be in jeapordy for a longggg, longggg time.
 

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I'm with ya on John Stockton!!
I have him as my 3rd ranked all time Point Guard behind Magic and the Big "O", Oscar.
 
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the fact he has the most games out of anyone on the entire list says a lot too.....to keep up at a high level for as long as he did (especially in a hustle stat like steals) is impressive to say the least.
 
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Probably the classiest player ever to play the game as well.
 
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and he had some nice legs...thats why he went with the high shorts
 
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always thought Stockton (and Malone honestly) were under-appreciated because of where and wjen they played.

An aside - everytime I see Rod Strickland up there on the alltime assists leaders I'm blown away
 

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Let's face facts; he's a white guy who never won a championship..just darted around; could not jump; had nice hair tho'

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8ate said:
Let's face facts; he's a white guy who never won a championship
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Yeah and those 2 reasons, primarily the 1st one, is the reason he doesn't get the credit he deserves.
It's ok though, he schooled and proved a large majority of the doubters, many of which were probably other players in the league, wrong on the court.

Nothing I love more than to see the fellas judge a guy by his appearance and then get shown up by that same guy on the field or court.
 
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i feel like it's where they played mostly... west coast guys have it harder as it is, but then to play in the jordan-era for a team in Utah... just tough luck all around. Add to that he was playing when ESPN was exploding, and the Jazz weren't the sportscenter top 10 kinda teams. I mean, Malone has the 2nd most pts all time, and *2* mvps... but never got a ton of play, and certainly doesn't today. makes me feel like they're suffering from the same affliction.
 
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great thread/point.


btw...#17 on the list "Fat Lever" who the hell is that? and is that his real name? :lol:
 
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Couldnt agree more Hache. I always wondered if he had a got a ring how much more respect he would of received
 
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The steals are more impressive than the assists in my opinion. assists are in large part dependant on the quality of finishers on your team, steals is all you
 
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When it comes to being underrated and underappreciated, it has little to do with how good something is; it is mostly how other people view it

To me, one of the greatest records in basketball, if not all sports, is Michael Jordan's six finals MVP awards. Ask google about greatest sports records or greatest NBA records and it is never mentioned
 
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wow stockton is 50.............man im old.....lol
 

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Yes, John Stockton (PG) heads up the All Time White Mans NBA Team playing along side Jerry West (SG), Larry Bird (SF), Bob Pettit (PF), and Bill Walton (C).

Another category that Stockton was extremely talented at and best at for a PG is setting hard screens. Soft is never a word used when talking about Stockton.
 
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gskiman said:
Yes, John Stockton (PG) heads up the All Time White Mans NBA Team playing along side Jerry West (SG), Larry Bird (SF), Bob Pettit (PF), and Bill Walton (C).

.....................and PISTOL as the sixth man
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