Jay Cutler Was 3rd Overall In NFL Passing Yardage Last Season; How Far Does He Drop This Year With The Bears?

[HacheMan]

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[HAT]

He'll drop to about 3,500. 250 Avg. & miss two games due to injury.

Where that ranks amongst lead leaders is anyones guess.

 

[FairWarning]

Really depends on the defense. If the defense is done, he may equal the yardage in '08. I believe his TD passes stay pretty close.

 

[HAT]

Conversely...Orton will flirt with but fall short of 4,000.

The sack numbers really stand out. 11 vs. 27

Granted, Jay's low number can be partially attributed to his own escapability but Denver's line is rock solid and it's not like Orton's a complete statue.

 

[FairWarning]

Conversely...Orton will flirt with but fall short of 4,000.

The sack numbers really stand out. 11 vs. 27

Granted, Jay's low number can be partially attributed to his own escapability but Denver's line is rock solid and it's not like Orton's a complete statue.

Orton is much better with a running game. Denver will be an interesting team this year.

 

[Enfuego]

Conversely...Orton will flirt with but fall short of 4,000.

The sack numbers really stand out. 11 vs. 27

Granted, Jay's low number can be partially attributed to his own escapability but Denver's line is rock solid and it's not like Orton's a complete statue.

Did I just read this right? Kyle Orton will flirt with 4,000 passing yards? Good grief.

 

[Nick.Papagiorgio]

#5-10 in passing yards

 

[HAT]

Orton is much better with a running game. Denver will be an interesting team this year.

True....But what he loses in Forte he gains in Denver's line & a Josh McD designed offense.

Moreno, Hillis & Jordan all have excellent hands out of the backfield and provide a huge safety valve...Especially with Clady protecting his blindside.

You can get a good idea of what Orton's numbers will loom like by throwing in Cassell's numers from the above list.

No one is questioniing that Cutler has the higher ceiling and more zip on his ball....But Orton's got a MUCH better head on his shoulders. (Not to mention Royal, Marshall, Stokely, Sceffler, Gafney, etc.)

McD will coach him up big time & he's going to surprise.

Denver's schedule is brutal though.

 

[FairWarning]

I would have to see this out of Orton to believe it. Not really sold on McDaniel either. After all, wasn't Mangini and Crennel Belechick deciples?

 

[HAT]

Did I just read this right? Kyle Orton will flirt with 4,000 passing yards? Good grief.

Through all of you preconceptions out the window...Or not.

Denvers line > Chicago
Denver skill players > Chicago
Denver scheme > Chicago

By the way...I said flirt with but fall short.

A) Denver still has all of their skill in place (Marshall not going anywhere)
B) McD coached up a rookie to 3,700 yards
C) NE's skill players were not THAT much better than Denver's last year

A+B+C= D) Orton finishes somewhere between what Cassell & Cutler did last year. 3,900-4,100 (provided he satys healthy)

 

[RupertPupkin]

Bears passed 56 -44 % of the time last year , I doubt it drops too much ... Depends if Forte stays healthy

 

[HAT]

I would have to see this out of Orton to believe it. Not really sold on McDaniel either. After all, wasn't Mangini and Crennel Belechick deciples?

I agree FW. McD is no sure thing simply b/c he hails from Hoody-land.

But he's taking over an offense that was nails already (except in the area of PPG)....

And adding first round RB, Hillis (who went under used b/c Shanny only through him out there when he was forced to), and a smarter QB.

Denver's defense is still going to suck and they still probably miss the playoffs....But the offense won't be the reason.

Off to the bar.

 

[DesertNole]

Did I just read this right? Kyle Orton will flirt with 4,000 passing yards? Good grief.

Orton doesn't have the accuracy to pass for 4K yards, this guy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a rock. Chicago's passing numbers would not have looked as pedestrian as they did if this guy could complete a pass more than 10 yards down field.