Sick gambler i can tell you stories as well about how times and people have changed, but it will make me sad. We can argue about this and that and how kids are staying indoors more due to the internet or video games and so on. You could also say that if it wasn't for kids staying indoors they could be out and about doing drugs or crime and so on, who knows. Personally i grew up on video games and im thankful because it has been proven in studies to increase a persons hand and eye coordination and i have great hand and eye coordination based on my sports abilities. Its important to have a balance in your life, ying and yang. The other day i was at work and this friend of mine who i grew up with calls me up wanting to sell two bottles of wine for $40. Now this kid was a honour student well behaved the works. I tell him why does he want to sell the bottles of wine since he shares his business with his brother. The kid has money, car, and home courtesty of the father. He tells me he needs money so he can get high which catches me off guard. I see the kid later on and i we go for a drive to catch up. What does he do next him and this girl pull a coke can fold the can up punch several holes into the can put ashes over the holes and then he pulls out the rock. I ask the kid whats that, he tells me its CRACK. Welcome to the millenium people it will only get worse.
I'm with Big Lou. I grew up in the 70's too. We didn't have playstation but we spent all our money on pinball. The kids in the 80's had video games. We wagered quarters playing pool in my basement or at the bowling alley.
I remember when I used to bet in the mid-80's the announcers would tell us what the line was for the game.
I will give you this, kids these days are fatter. Perhaps they drink too many sodas and fast food. When I was growing up I got 1 soda a week and we got to eat out once or twice a week.
I remember when I used to bet in the mid-80's the announcers would tell us what the line was for the game.
I will give you this, kids these days are fatter. Perhaps they drink too many sodas and fast food. When I was growing up I got 1 soda a week and we got to eat out once or twice a week.
Same stuff, diffrent times! Hate to say it but we are just getting old, but I refuse to compare how I grew up then to now! Its all the same stuff just different variables.
I just hope my boy likes to surf and play guitar, if he does not I will have to beat him, lol.
Currently, he is teething and man what a nightmare, what a pistol! Can you say 2 hours of sleep a night!
I just hope my boy likes to surf and play guitar, if he does not I will have to beat him, lol.
Currently, he is teething and man what a nightmare, what a pistol! Can you say 2 hours of sleep a night!
Sick, I too grew up in the 70s/80s, and it was great, but like Eric says " there are no new sins", today is no different than in the days of Jesus, I had access to two outs by high school.
If your gonna become a sicky, better to get the learning curve started early!
However, Apathy is truly the greatest affliction of Gen-Y that I sense from the younger generations today, they are desensitized and lack empathy in many cases..very sad indeed.
If your gonna become a sicky, better to get the learning curve started early!
However, Apathy is truly the greatest affliction of Gen-Y that I sense from the younger generations today, they are desensitized and lack empathy in many cases..very sad indeed.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Good point darryl.. Not only that, they will become lazy and unmotivated from sitting on their asses all their lives and having it so easy. They won't know what hard work is. They will have no imagination at all. They won't be creative. When I was young, we used to go out in the parks and invent games, and use our imaginations. These kids today don't even use their heads. They come home from school and right to the PS2's.. No exercise, NOTHING..
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Sick,
What lazy and unimaginative kids are yuou talking about?
Who do you think are making these PS2 games?
KIDS!
Teenagers and guys in their 20's.
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Sick,
What lazy and unimaginative kids are yuou talking about?
Who do you think are making these PS2 games?
KIDS!
Teenagers and guys in their 20's.
Good post, but I have a very different take on the 70's. All I remember as a kid was a huge recession, stagflation, Jimmy "the wimp" Carter, unemployed factory workers, depressed and demoralized Americans because of Vietnam and the economy, Japanese cars, and a bankrupt NYC complete with riots.
Give me today, I'm loving it.
Give me today, I'm loving it.
boys,
lets be honest here.. Wasn't the 70's the best time of life ever. Isn't growing up in the 70's just great.. Aren't we lucky the people that got to live through them. Even the music of the 70's was the best of all time..
Mondo,
When we played games back then, we didn't just sit there and push buttons on a computer like today. We actually went out and used our imaginations, like making nets for hockey/basketball, and creating new rules for sporting games that we just invented. We ran a lot, and we were always happy and always smiling.. We got to spend so much time outdoors, unlike today, where a kid can spend all day sat and sun in his room playing PS2.. how sad!! Exercise was so healthy.. If i had an internet and a PS2 back then, i would have missed a lot of life, mark my words.. I am so happy i grew up before the computer era.. I thank god everyday that I grew up with a good childhood and in the 70's and not in the new millenium.. I remember how I was 7 yrs old and my parents would let me out of the house to play and it was safe, and our parents worried, but not as much as today's parents. I remember also how we always left our door wide open and hardly ever locked, and never once worried, unlike today.. It was so safe back then. Everyone seemed so much more trustworthy. The world was a much better and happier place to live in..
lets be honest here.. Wasn't the 70's the best time of life ever. Isn't growing up in the 70's just great.. Aren't we lucky the people that got to live through them. Even the music of the 70's was the best of all time..
Mondo,
When we played games back then, we didn't just sit there and push buttons on a computer like today. We actually went out and used our imaginations, like making nets for hockey/basketball, and creating new rules for sporting games that we just invented. We ran a lot, and we were always happy and always smiling.. We got to spend so much time outdoors, unlike today, where a kid can spend all day sat and sun in his room playing PS2.. how sad!! Exercise was so healthy.. If i had an internet and a PS2 back then, i would have missed a lot of life, mark my words.. I am so happy i grew up before the computer era.. I thank god everyday that I grew up with a good childhood and in the 70's and not in the new millenium.. I remember how I was 7 yrs old and my parents would let me out of the house to play and it was safe, and our parents worried, but not as much as today's parents. I remember also how we always left our door wide open and hardly ever locked, and never once worried, unlike today.. It was so safe back then. Everyone seemed so much more trustworthy. The world was a much better and happier place to live in..
Funk,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'm not sure how you made the conclusion just because the children of the 90's and beyond spend more time playing videogames than in the park, that they have had "everything handed to them on a silver platter". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I made the conclusion not from the videogames but from the fact that they have money to gamble and are obese for the most part. I have yet to see an obese kid who is not spoiled in other ways besides just food (which is obvious). Are you saying that today's kids, on average, are less spoiled than the kids growing up 30 years ago? If so, I don't think too many people will agree with you.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'm not sure how you made the conclusion just because the children of the 90's and beyond spend more time playing videogames than in the park, that they have had "everything handed to them on a silver platter". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I made the conclusion not from the videogames but from the fact that they have money to gamble and are obese for the most part. I have yet to see an obese kid who is not spoiled in other ways besides just food (which is obvious). Are you saying that today's kids, on average, are less spoiled than the kids growing up 30 years ago? If so, I don't think too many people will agree with you.
DE NIRO,
Good point. Mothers are great nurturers but they are ill equipped to give direction and purpose to a boy. That's the father's job. Of course, the father can always do that even if the family is split up, but in the short time he has with the kid he has to first undo all the brainwashing by the mother which is somewhere between really really hard and impossible. And getting custody of the kid is usually not realistic because of the legal system which is heavily biased towards the mother. So it's either put up with an aggressive bitch who wants to wear your pants or chase a cute bunny up a tree. Judging from the number of views on the HIT threads I think I know which one most guys choose.
Good point. Mothers are great nurturers but they are ill equipped to give direction and purpose to a boy. That's the father's job. Of course, the father can always do that even if the family is split up, but in the short time he has with the kid he has to first undo all the brainwashing by the mother which is somewhere between really really hard and impossible. And getting custody of the kid is usually not realistic because of the legal system which is heavily biased towards the mother. So it's either put up with an aggressive bitch who wants to wear your pants or chase a cute bunny up a tree. Judging from the number of views on the HIT threads I think I know which one most guys choose.
I was walking down the Strip in Las Vegas today, and it struck me how god-awful fat Americans have become. It's not just the kids, but the parents. All these people just disgusted me the way they looked.
It made me think of a book "Fast Food Nation", a good read for those of you that go to the library.
Then I was reading some Kurt Vonnegut and another thing struck me. He was talking how people used to write short stories and create artwork for a living, but they both have pretty much died, because now people look for television for the canned crap entertainment.
I mean can you name really one or two TV shows that are any good at all? Survivor, American Idol, Everybody Loves Raymond, Friends, god they are pretty godawful.
Just a few thoughts, from the Dog Man.
It made me think of a book "Fast Food Nation", a good read for those of you that go to the library.
Then I was reading some Kurt Vonnegut and another thing struck me. He was talking how people used to write short stories and create artwork for a living, but they both have pretty much died, because now people look for television for the canned crap entertainment.
I mean can you name really one or two TV shows that are any good at all? Survivor, American Idol, Everybody Loves Raymond, Friends, god they are pretty godawful.
Just a few thoughts, from the Dog Man.
Big Lou,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Every generation says the same thing about the previous generation. They always have and always will.
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This has only been true since the start of the industrial revolution (ie. about 100 years). Compare that to the 20,000 + years humans have been around and you can see that it is really not a universal truth applicable to humanity. We have a lot of that thousands of years old stuff still programmed into us. Ever notice the metaphors between our modern lives and the hunter-gatherer lifestyle? This is all ancient programming. We evolve very slowly.
This gradual deterioration from long-standing traditional values will lead to doom for western industrial society. It is the Roman Empire all over again, which is a dead-end path, only this time the death toll will be much higher, thanks to nuclear weapons.
That's the bad news. The good news is that it is possible to survive a nuclear war and subsequent path we will be on will be an interesting one IMO, even if I cannot predict it right now. It's true that we may not be around to see this new direction, but our grandchildren or great grandchildren will, and for me that's comforting enough to be happy in this life.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Every generation says the same thing about the previous generation. They always have and always will.
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This has only been true since the start of the industrial revolution (ie. about 100 years). Compare that to the 20,000 + years humans have been around and you can see that it is really not a universal truth applicable to humanity. We have a lot of that thousands of years old stuff still programmed into us. Ever notice the metaphors between our modern lives and the hunter-gatherer lifestyle? This is all ancient programming. We evolve very slowly.
This gradual deterioration from long-standing traditional values will lead to doom for western industrial society. It is the Roman Empire all over again, which is a dead-end path, only this time the death toll will be much higher, thanks to nuclear weapons.
That's the bad news. The good news is that it is possible to survive a nuclear war and subsequent path we will be on will be an interesting one IMO, even if I cannot predict it right now. It's true that we may not be around to see this new direction, but our grandchildren or great grandchildren will, and for me that's comforting enough to be happy in this life.
So many great points and such a long list of posts...too tired to pull out quotes etc.
What I will say with 100% certainty is that although every generation efers to the "good old days" it IS true that kids are far LAZIER today then we were in the 70's. EVERYONE I knew would be on the road playing hockey from sun up to sundown. (remember games with only street lights on..trying to see the ball and hoping mom wouldn't spoil the "next goal wins excitement?")
Anyway, the internet/technology is a big plus in many ways; however, if PARENTS would exert authority and get their kids BUSY, then everything would improve. It always comes down to YOU setting the right example for THEM.
Give your kids a hockey stick, bat & ball, golf club etc EARLY in life and GET OUT THERE WITH THEM! It isn't too late to BE positive Role Models and it is worth the effort.
Change is a given.....but it does not need to be negative.
cheers
sds
What I will say with 100% certainty is that although every generation efers to the "good old days" it IS true that kids are far LAZIER today then we were in the 70's. EVERYONE I knew would be on the road playing hockey from sun up to sundown. (remember games with only street lights on..trying to see the ball and hoping mom wouldn't spoil the "next goal wins excitement?")
Anyway, the internet/technology is a big plus in many ways; however, if PARENTS would exert authority and get their kids BUSY, then everything would improve. It always comes down to YOU setting the right example for THEM.
Give your kids a hockey stick, bat & ball, golf club etc EARLY in life and GET OUT THERE WITH THEM! It isn't too late to BE positive Role Models and it is worth the effort.
Change is a given.....but it does not need to be negative.
cheers
sds
Daryl Parsons wrote:
"Mothers are great nurturers but they are ill equipped to give direction and purpose to a boy. That's the father's job."
I strongly agree with you here as I am living this situation now. I am staying temporarily with a single mother. Her kid is almost 4 years old and when he wants something he cries and his mother gives it to him. Three seconds after he gets what he wants he is all happy again. When he wakes up from his nap he cries like a little baby.
Mothers are for nurturing but a lot of them don't have the instincts to give corrective action. This kid is in trouble at daycare for biting and fighting with other kids because his mother hasn't taught him that he can't have everything he wants.
"Mothers are great nurturers but they are ill equipped to give direction and purpose to a boy. That's the father's job."
I strongly agree with you here as I am living this situation now. I am staying temporarily with a single mother. Her kid is almost 4 years old and when he wants something he cries and his mother gives it to him. Three seconds after he gets what he wants he is all happy again. When he wakes up from his nap he cries like a little baby.
Mothers are for nurturing but a lot of them don't have the instincts to give corrective action. This kid is in trouble at daycare for biting and fighting with other kids because his mother hasn't taught him that he can't have everything he wants.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> In the 70's and 80's you whip the kids butt and whip it good for discipline purposes. You try that today and leave a red spot, you can go to jail. There lies your difference with attitude. No arguing it. That is my belief and I respect yours. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
With all due respect to my elders, I guess all those kids who were beated on the 70's and 80's are the ones now raising all those lazy/computer dependant/drug addict/betting kids of their own...
As far as I'm concerned, those lazy/computer dependant/drug addict/betting kids weren't raised isolated on cages with total freedom to do whatever they pleased, but by their parents, weren't they?
Parents, which I'm just guessing, were kids on the 70's...
If during the 70's and 80's someone raised those future parents by beating the crap out of them, why would anybody could expect from them anything but doing a lousy job with their own kids...
Who is to blame?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Give your kids a hockey stick, bat & ball, golf club etc EARLY in life and GET OUT THERE WITH THEM! It isn't too late to BE positive Role Models and it is worth the effort.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I completely second that!!
With all due respect to my elders, I guess all those kids who were beated on the 70's and 80's are the ones now raising all those lazy/computer dependant/drug addict/betting kids of their own...
As far as I'm concerned, those lazy/computer dependant/drug addict/betting kids weren't raised isolated on cages with total freedom to do whatever they pleased, but by their parents, weren't they?
Parents, which I'm just guessing, were kids on the 70's...
If during the 70's and 80's someone raised those future parents by beating the crap out of them, why would anybody could expect from them anything but doing a lousy job with their own kids...
Who is to blame?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Give your kids a hockey stick, bat & ball, golf club etc EARLY in life and GET OUT THERE WITH THEM! It isn't too late to BE positive Role Models and it is worth the effort.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I completely second that!!
I am learning alot here about the generations we all grew up in, but the main reason I wrote this here was mostly because of how gambling has become a large part of society, which no one explained yet their opinions. Yes, very true how life seemed so much better back then and kids were out more getting exercise and all..but......
What about how worse now life has become because our society, unlike 30 yrs ago, now is out in the open about gambling.. For example, my local sports radio talk shows commercials are filled with them saying, send in your money to gamble in this casino and win some money.. Or radio shows now have callers all predicting who will cover.. OR kids running to the local stores here to wager on hockey games because it just makes the game more exciting..
When we grew up as kids, we NEVER heard the word "bet" ever mentioned.. Today, it is everywhere you watch and see. Why is the local tv sports announcer even saying, and the Colts score a late TD to cover the 3.5 pts, OR the Giants with the late field goal to put the game over.. WTF is this?? I never knew gambling would become so open for all of us like this. I really feel so sorry for our future kids.. Man, I never ever once heard anything about gambling growing up. I loved watching sports for sports, not because i had money on it to make it more "funner"
I am so fortunate that I grew up in the 70's, and not today..
What about how worse now life has become because our society, unlike 30 yrs ago, now is out in the open about gambling.. For example, my local sports radio talk shows commercials are filled with them saying, send in your money to gamble in this casino and win some money.. Or radio shows now have callers all predicting who will cover.. OR kids running to the local stores here to wager on hockey games because it just makes the game more exciting..
When we grew up as kids, we NEVER heard the word "bet" ever mentioned.. Today, it is everywhere you watch and see. Why is the local tv sports announcer even saying, and the Colts score a late TD to cover the 3.5 pts, OR the Giants with the late field goal to put the game over.. WTF is this?? I never knew gambling would become so open for all of us like this. I really feel so sorry for our future kids.. Man, I never ever once heard anything about gambling growing up. I loved watching sports for sports, not because i had money on it to make it more "funner"
I am so fortunate that I grew up in the 70's, and not today..
