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Many Canadians, particularly occasional betters, aren't aware that the U.S. Internal Revenue Service collects as much as 30 per cent of winnings from slot machines, bingo, racetracks and big lotteries in the United States when the cash windfall is over a certain amount.

It's called a withholding tax, which the IRS collects directly from winners when collecting on their bets. In Canada, however, governments boost their coffers from profits generated by lotteries and casinos, not directly from the gambler.

But while that 30-per-cent cut in the United States can take the shine off a day's work screaming at horses and greyhounds or raiding a casino's one-armed bandits, experts say too many Canadians don't realize they can recapture much of the loss.

By filing a U.S. income tax return, Canadians can reduce the taxable amount of a big win by offsetting it with gambling losses. It may sound complicated and bureaucratic, but it's actually a simple way of recovering more of your winnings.

"Some people say, 'Oh, forget it,' and just run away. But it's not that big of a deal at all," said Debra Callicutt, a financial adviser in Scottsdale, Ariz., and an expert on cross-border taxation issues who advises many expatriate Canadians.

"It's just a matter of filling out a form and handing it into an agency." Under a bilateral tax treaty between the United States and Canada, residents from north of the border are subject to American taxes on certain gross gaming victories. That includes winnings of $1,200 US or more at bingo or slot machines, $1,500 US or more from Keno, $600 US or more from horse racing, dog racing or the ball game jai alai, and $600 US or more from state lotteries in which the winnings are at least equal to the amount of the wager.

The withholding tax does not apply to winnings from blackjack, baccarat, craps and roulette -- table games where the odds of winning a large amount aren't as great.

Canadians have the right to reclaim winnings by proving betting losses also incurred in the United States, under "probably the only treaty we have that allows such a provision" with another country, Callicutt said.

As an example, Callicutt said if a Canadian won $15,000 US, and incurred U.S. gambling losses of $10,000, the amount of U.S. source taxable income would only be $5,000. Canadians are required to obtain a U.S. tax identification number and file what's called a Form 1040 NR, U.S. Nonresident Alien Income Tax Return to reclaim such taxes.

However, if you make such a claim, "it's up to you to provide the proof" with a paper trail, she says. That can include wager stubs or even a credit card bill that shows a gambling transaction and be proven not to include food, souvenirs or other items.

Frequent gamblers may realize they need to keep records of their wins and losses but, unfortunately, "the average Canadian is not going to think to keep receipts," Callicutt said. "But it's to their benefit, if they've got some losses and a way to prove any of the losses."

Canadians must provide the IRS with a copy of the 1042-S form received from a casino. The form states the amount of withholding taxes a gambler paid. "By law, they actually do hold them and are required to provide them to us once we provide proof we are working on behalf of the client. So it's not that difficult to get them."

It takes about six weeks to obtain a U.S. tax ID number and another six weeks to get the refund, Arviv said. That's not a significant time for Canadians who didn't even know they could recollect on the taxes, he said.

But he cautioned Canadians shouldn't procrastinate on applying for the rebate. Currently, the IRS will refund taxes paid on gaming winnings back as far as 1998, but the retroactive filings are subject to statutes of limitations.

Recommendations from the U.S. Internal Revenue Service for claiming refunds from withholding taxes on gambling wins in the United States:

Keep a diary of winnings and losses, including the date and time of the wager and activity, plus the name and location of the gambling establishment.

Also note the names of any other people who were with you and record the exact amount you won or lost.

Keep all wagering tickets, such as unredeemed tickets for lotteries you lost and racetrack and bingo cards. - Retain cancelled cheques, credit card records relating to withdrawals for gambling funds, casino credit records, bank withdrawals and statements of winnings provided by the establishment.

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/managearticle.asp?c=320&a=196
 

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One should never allow withholding tax on a slot winning unless it is a casino policy............which is very rare.

Just sign your W-2 and keep an accurate diary of your wins and losses as stated above and you can write off your entire winnings with your reported losses.
 

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There are about 30 countries on the withholding exempt list. If you are from 1 of them, you are exempt from the withholding tax. I thought Canada was one of them. If you are not from one of the countries on the exempt list, 30% of you jackpot will be withheld.
 

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So, if a canadian wins in the USA, do they then get taxed here in the states, and then again in Canada?

If so, what a crock of $hit.
 

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Marco I recall a time when I worked at a book in Vegas when a guy from Canada won some bet on horses which called for a W2G form.You can not pay out until a SS# is entered into the machine.Since they don't have a SS# in Canada we filled out a special tax form just for this case.Then we deducted 32% I believe it is.

In case you don't know the W2G form is when you win anything that is 300 times what you bet but over 600 dollars.

ex. a one dollar trifecta wheel that paid 653 dollars you would have a signer even if that wheel cost you 120 dollars.
 

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NICKY.....any way around filling out the forms, like requesting a payout in casino chips, like if one was to say he wasn't done gambling in your fine establishment and needed some chips for the blackjack table and blah,blah,blah...

....and finish talking as my left foot went out the door followed close behind by the right foot.....
 

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Best thing to do is throw a few bucks to someone with a ss# to cash it for you.Plenty of willing people hanging around racebooks to do such a thing.
 

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