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McCain backs off his no-new-tax pledge

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Republican presidential candidate John McCain's signal that he may be open to a higher payroll tax for Social Security, despite previous vows not to raise taxes of any kind, is drawing sharp rebukes from conservatives.
McCain's shift has come in stages, catching some Republicans by surprise. Speaking with reporters on his campaign bus on July 9, he cited a need to shore up Social Security. "I cannot tell you what I would do, except to put everything on the table," he said.
He went a step farther Sunday on ABC's "This Week," in response to a question about payroll tax increases.
"There is nothing that's off the table. I have my positions, and I'll articulate them. But nothing's off the table," McCain said. "I don't want tax increases. But that doesn't mean that anything is off the table."
That comment drew a strong response this week from the Club for Growth, a Washington anti-tax group. McCain's comments, the group said in a letter to the Arizona senator, are "shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances."
Indeed, McCain frequently has promised not to raise taxes.
At a July 7 town-hall meeting in Denver, he said voters faced a stark choice between him and Democrat Barack Obama.
"Sen. Obama will raise your taxes," McCain said. "I won't."
In a March 16 interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, McCain said he would cut taxes where possible, and not raise them.
"Do you mean none?" Hannity asked.
"None," McCain replied.
Both candidates have said Social Security's funding formula needs to be changed to ensure the program's long-term viability. Obama has called for imposing a new payroll tax on incomes above $250,000. Currently, only incomes up to $102,000 are subject to the 12.4 percent payroll tax, which employers and employees split evenly.
When Obama announced his plan June 13, McCain's top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, told reporters that as president McCain would not consider a payroll tax increase "under any imagineable circumstance."
McCain has made no specific proposals for Social Security, refusing to rule in or out anything to strengthen the benefit program for retirees and the disabled. Both candidates have said that, if elected, they would try to work out details with Republican and Democratic lawmakers.
Asked for an explanation of McCain's latest comments, campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said the Arizona senator "has a clear and demonstrated record of opposing tax increases. John McCain is going to cut taxes" and improve government discipline, he said.
Promises never to raise taxes have bedeviled past Republican officeholders. Before being elected president in 1988, George H.W. Bush said, "Read my lips, no new taxes." But facing severe budget problems, he reneged on the promise. Some conservative groups never forgave him.
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Oh yeah, this was yesterday's...

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<!-- END Sociable links -->John McCain injected race directly into the general election, declaring on ABC's This Week With George Stephanopoulis that he supported an Arizona initiative by California businessman Ward Connerly. McCain has previously spoken out against such initiatives as “divisive.”

The presumptive Republican nominee's newest flip flop – he had also previously not supported off-shore drilling – seems designed to shore up support on his right flank. In this regard, David Jackson of USA Today writes, “Democratic Party spokesman Damien LaVera said. McCain voiced support to placate Republican conservatives and is "putting his political ambitions ahead of principle." LaVera cited McCain's new found support for Bush-era tax cuts and offshore oil drilling. McCain said letting the tax cuts expire would amount to a tax hike in bad economic times, while $4-a-gallon gas has altered his position on offshore drilling.”

Asked by the ABC news host if he supported the Arizona ballot initiative, McCain said “"Yes, I do. I do not believe in quotas. But I have not seen the details of some of these proposals. But I've always opposed quotas.''

Washington Post columnist Robert Barnes however, points out that the Arizona measure does not concern “quotas”. “Quotas”, Barnes writes, “ are not an issue in the proposals, because the courts for years have been striking them down.” State institutions now use other language to achieve diversity. Connerly's goal is to prevent any measure seeking to achieve such results.

McCain's caving in to the far right stands in sharp contrast to previous positions. As Thinkprogress.org's Progress Report observes:

"Not only has McCain previously resisted state-level efforts to dismantle affirmative action, as he did in 1998, but he has also defended such programs on the federal level. In 1998, McCain worked with Democrats to defeat an amendment that would have ended a program that sought "to give 10 percent of all Federally financed highway contracts to companies owned by minorities and women."

The Progrss report continues that as recently as the spring McCain "reiterated this support ... telling reporters in Ohio, "all of us are for affirmative action to try to give assistance to those who need it, whether it be African-American or other groups of Americans that need it."

Senator Barack Obama, speaking at the Unity journalists conference in Chicago, expressed “disappointment” in McCain's reversal. Obama previously has spoken in favor of looking into income based affirmative action in addition to those based on race and gender.

Some are calling on Obama to use the occasion to come out against affirmative action entirely. Andrew Sullivan, for example wrote that If he were to call McCain's bluff and come out in support of phasing out racial and gender preferences, Obama could erase a potential wedge issue for the fall.” The implication here is that the Democrat would “reform” the program by basing it on “class” alone.

Obama seems disinclined to accept this notion, repeating what McCain himself said ten years ago. “You know, the truth of the matter is, these are not designed to solve a big problem, but they're all too often designed to drive a wedge between people."

Voters will also decide on anti-affirmative action ballot measures in Colorado and Nebraska in the fall.

McCain is due to speak at an Urban League meet on Friday.


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If McCain goes to the grocery store and his wife tells him to buy 1/2 gallon of milk and he gets a quart that by your measure is a flip-flop. If McCain ever flip-flopped on anything which is arguable they were minor infractions.

His opponent is more known as a flip-flopper than even John Kerry was & Kerry was a Hall of Fame top flopper. When his opponent flip-flops it is usually a doosy. The flip-flop issue is a big plus for McCain and he should ride in hard. BO has more of a reputation as a flip-flopper than he does for throwing former allies under his bus and that's saying alot!
 

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If McCain goes to the grocery store and his wife tells him to buy 1/2 gallon of milk and he gets a quart that by your measure is a flip-flop. If McCain ever flip-flopped on anything which is arguable they were minor infractions.

His opponent is more known as a flip-flopper than even John Kerry was & Kerry was a Hall of Fame top flopper. When his opponent flip-flops it is usually a doosy. The flip-flop issue is a big plus for McCain and he should ride in hard. BO has more of a reputation as a flip-flopper than he does for throwing former allies under his bus and that's saying alot!

On July 7 he says he won't raise taxes; on July 27 he says payroll tax increase is not off the table. You compare this to the volume of milk from the grocery store.

Not sure any further dialogue with you on this type of subject would be fruitful.

There's been some pretty good lists of McCain flip flops, but I don't think any are comprehensive and they would take up too much bandwith to re-post here. You can try to paint it one way, but McCain is the flip-flopper in chief.
 

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Not sure any further dialogue with you on this type of subject would be fruitful.

no dialogue in here is fruitful.

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