It is an INVESTMENT NOT a Bailout 2 !!!!!

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These words are coming for the world's richest man. He is worlds saviest, smartest, and greatest investor of all time and an influence on my life... Warren Buffet.


- Well, there's just no telling what would happen. Last week we were at the brink of something that would have made anything that's happened in financial history look pale. We were very, very close to a system that was totally dysfunctional and would have not only gummed up the financial markets, but gummed up the economy in a way that would take us years and years to repair.

- I'm not saying the Paulson plan eliminates those problems. But it was absolutely, and is absolutely necessary, in my view, to really avoid going over the precipice.

- Yeah, well, it's everybody's problem. Unfortunately, the economy is a little like a bathtub. You can't have cold water in the front and hot water in the back. And what was happening on Wall Street was going to immerse that bathtub very, very quickly in terms of business. Look, right now business is having trouble throughout the economy. But a collapse of the kind of institutions that were threatened last week, and their inability to fund, would have caused industry and retail and everything else to grind to something close to a halt. It was, and still is, a very, very dangerous situation.

... you have all the major institutions in the world trying to deleverage. And we want them to deleverage, but they're trying to deleverage at the same time. Well, if huge institutions are trying to deleverage, you need someone in the world that's willing to leverage up. And there's no one that can leverage up except the United States government.

... if they do it right, and I think they will do it reasonably right, they won't do it perfectly right, I think they'll make a lot of money. Because if they don't -- they shouldn't buy these debt instruments at what the institutions paid. They shouldn't buy them at what they're carrying, what the carrying value is, necessarily. They should buy them at the kind of prices that are available in the market. People who are buying these instruments in the market are expecting to make 15 to 20 percent on those instruments. If the government makes anything over its cost of borrowing, this deal will come out with a profit. And I would bet it will come out with a profit, actually.
 

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LMAO

yeah an investment that nobody else in the world wants to make :)

so the ol taxpayer the buyer of last resort
 

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These aren't my words folks... These words come from the world's richest/smartest/saviest investor.


HE THINKS THE GOVERNMENT WILL MAKE MONEY !!! They are buying assets for what are deemed to be 15-20 percent undervalued right now. Even if they were 10% undervalued, the governmetn mismanged it ( like usual) held and resold, the government would make 70 Billion dollars!
 

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Buffet backs Obama...how smart can he be?

ding ding ding

buffet is now a elitest with a vested interest to save the broken system and promote phony capitalism since all his wealth tied up in it
 

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7, you know for damn sure this is an investment and not a handout.

Even if the government were to break even, it would be deemed a success because it would help the I banks get through this... and provide future jobs, revenue, tax dollars etc.

Buffet thinks it will make money, but the enraged and ignorant masses think uncle sam is writing Wallstreet a 700 billion dollar check... that isn't the case. It is a fucking trade.
 

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ding ding ding

buffet is now a elitest with a vested interest to save the broken system and promote phony capitalism since all his wealth tied up in it


So you accuse buffet of being a crook?
 

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I just listened.

Now, can someone tell me what the plan is?

Bush didn't say anything.
 

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i never said a crook

just has a vested interest to keep things in the status quo and save this broken system

as the little guy in america continues to have less of a chance of becoming the next warren buffet due to the phony capitalism and socialism that he promotes
 

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yeah D2 these guys continue to fuck up as far as selling this to the american people and continue to be extremely vague in the details

give me broad undefined powers to appoint the hanktator in order to have great powers to continue to rid of anything that is left of our free markets!!!!!
 

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7, you know for damn sure this is an investment and not a handout.

Even if the government were to break even, it would be deemed a success because it would help the I banks get through this... and provide future jobs, revenue, tax dollars etc.

Buffet thinks it will make money, but the enraged and ignorant masses think uncle sam is writing Wallstreet a 700 billion dollar check... that isn't the case. It is a fucking trade.

I know but I am still not in favor of the bailout or whatever you wanna call it. I say take the ban off the shorts, make these Banks mark to market and if it crashes...it crashes. Then, when its all over, smarty-pants go in and pick up some bargains. In the interim, people like Tiznow who are invested in Gold/Silver get paidoff for making the right call.

This is America dammit! We dont do bailouts...not for Bear Sterns or AIG or anybody...

Free enterprise...any thing else is socialism. Then Obama gets in and...8 years later its the Peoples Republic of Communist America. Free health care, a rigged stock market and 60% income tax. Low productivity, no innovations, no new technology, etc. Oh well, I guess the bright side is I'll get a 40 hour work week and long vacations.
 

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I know but I am still not in favor of the bailout or whatever you wanna call it. I say take the ban off the shorts, make these Banks mark to market and if it crashes...it crashes. Then, when its all over, smarty-pants go in and pick up some bargains. In the interim, people like Tiznow who are invested in Gold/Silver get paidoff for making the right call.

This is America dammit! We dont do bailouts...not for Bear Sterns or AIG or anybody...

Free enterprise...any thing else is socialism. Then Obama gets in and...8 years later its the Peoples Republic of Communist America. Free health care, a rigged stock market and 60% income tax. Low productivity, no innovations, no new technology, etc. Oh well, I guess the bright side is I'll get a 40 hour work week and long vacations.


We are on the same page. Ron Paul?

If/When the market crashes, people like us pick up the pieces and become rich.:toast:
 

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yup get it over with now is what i say 7

cause the more powers we give to government the worse its gonna get over the long haul

banning shorts is 3rd world economy shit
nationalization of housing is 3rd world economy shit
nationalization of insurance companies is 3rd world economy shit
nationalization of bad debt is 3rd world country shit

therefore over the long haul

we will be rewarded with a 3rd world economy
 

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Tiz, 7.... are you familiar with the fall of the Roman Empire?

I will give you props if you are one of the few people that can distictly attribute what caused the fall.
 

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Tiz, 7.... are you familiar with the fall of the Roman Empire?

I will give you props if you are one of the few people that can distictly attribute what caused the fall.

I can see it now...Bush and Buffet fiddle while Manhatten and Washington burn. The have nots are running wild like L.A. on Rodney King day. Not pretty. Hope we're not headed there.
 

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ding ding ding

buffet is now a elitest with a vested interest to save the broken system and promote phony capitalism since all his wealth tied up in it


Exactly! Tiz you win the gold star.

I'd still invest in Berkshire B-shares though.

:toast:
 

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i think it (the bailout) needs to be done and i think much of what he (Bush) says (and the guys on fast money said earlier) is true....it may not be true capitalism but they (us govt) need to step in to get the flow of credit going again and they are the only ones capable of doing it....

having said that my biggest gripe is the overall deficits and how they continue to grow...if we weren't already up to our head in debt the 700B would have been a drop in the bucket...eventually that is what will take us down...the fuc-king assholes in DC need to severely start addressing THAT issue or like Ron Paul says, this will all end badly....

just my 2cents...feel free to pick me apart im just a regular CNBC watcher and not an economist by any means...
 
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Tiz, 7.... are you familiar with the fall of the Roman Empire?

I will give you props if you are one of the few people that can distictly attribute what caused the fall.

there were alot of factors but core reason was liberalism

they were liberal when it comes to wars, lifestyle, finances, monetary policy etc....

the same thing the US has been doing for many decades now
 

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there were alot of factors but core reason was liberalism

they were liberal when it comes to wars, lifestyle, finances, monetary policy etc....

the same thing the US has been doing for many decades now

Dont forget moral decay.
 

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