Israel attacked USS Liberty, may try carrier in gulf

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Is Israel putting together a plan to attack a US carrier in the gulf and blame it on Iran, like it did with the USS Liberty?

On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. This USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.


The Attack

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft over flights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship nine hours before the attack by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40 Million Dollar state of the art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.



The Cover Up
Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.



Anti-Semitism and the Anti-American Apologists
The USS Liberty Memorial web site abhors the racist and extreme positions taken by antiSemitic, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theorist and other such groups which often seek to identify with us and to usurp our story as their own. We have no connection with and do not support or encourage support from any of these groups including National Alliance, National Vanguard, The New Order, National Socialists, The French Connection, Liberty Lobby, American Free Press, Republic Broadcasting, AFP's Liberty Radio Hour, or other such groups. We wish harm to no one and encourage social justice and equality for everyone; we seek only accountability for the criminal acts perpetrated against us and can do that without help from hate-mongers.

On the Israeli side, the group of pro-Israel, anti-American critics of our story, while small, persists in launching loud, vicious ad hominem attacks on anyone who attempts to discuss the deliberateness of the attack. These anti-American apologists refuse to discuss the facts of the case. Instead, they rely on propaganda and charge anyone who questions the Israeli position with being antiSemitic.

For detailed and authoritative accounts of the power and influence of the pro-Israel lobby, please see The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy by Mearsheimer and Walt and The Pro-Israel Lobby by Edward Herman.



The Betrayal of American Veterans
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Americans who volunteer for military service effectively write a blank check, payable to the United States of America for an amount "up to and including my life." The United States, in turn, promises to spend these checks responsibly. That bargain implicitly includes a promise by the United States to protect them and to seek retribution against anyone who harms them. In the case of USS Liberty, the United States has failed to keep its promise.

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One candidate with a real interest in this story is Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who five years ago endorsed a book, The Liberty Incident, that concluded it was a mistake. McCain's interest stems from the fact that his father, the late Adm. John S. McCain, was commander of U.S. Naval Forces, Europe, at the time, and ordered the official court of inquiry to investigate the attack.
Based on the court's findings, Adm. McCain concluded it was a case of mistaken identity. But five years ago the legal advisor to the court broke his own silence in an interview with me, calling the final report a sham, a cover-up. It was about that same time that The Liberty Incident, by A. Jay Cristol, a former Navy pilot and retired judge, hit the bookshelves.
Sen. McCain praised the book and its findings in a blurb that appeared on the back cover.
In recent months there have been more revelations about the attack and immediate aftermath, however. In June, I reported that the Navy already was calling the attack accidental in its casualty notification telegrams to next of kin even before the court of inquiry convened for the first time.
Then came the Tribune story last week, reporting that the National Security Agency's deputy director of operations in 1967 now confirms that transcripts of U.S. intercepts of Israeli communications show the Israelis knew exactly who they were attacking.
Oliver Kirby is quoted in the Trib story as recalling the Israeli pilots several times identifying the ship as American but being told to attack anyway. While some of the original transcripts and intel have disappeared, the story reports that some of it is still in U.S. government archives.
So far, calls to McCain's senate and campaign offices have not been returned.
 

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here we go again.another programmed robot who thinks israel can do no wrong.anything you dont agree with,which in this case,is all true,you call it a lie or a conspiracy.if you think its a lie,which part is not true.please explain,your omnipotence.
 

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I suppose all the israeli spies that are sitting in american prisons for espionage were wrongly acccused.
 

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Proves what scumbags politicians are.

Mc Cain and his father should be tried for treason and hung.
 

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if one looked at the facts available, there is zero doubt the "incident" occured.....pretty much common knowledge

surprised Romo, self admitted "Scottish Rite" member disagrees, as I find him to be amongst the sharpest posters on the forum
 

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yes the incident occurred, the article however is nothing more than propaganda.

Bring out the tin foil hats, a huge cover up by the jewish media :D

Hate to break it to y'all but Israel is falsley accused in the pro-palestinian media all over europe and even some in the US moreso than the other way around. How is it so? The Jews own everything :D....lol
 

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Ah, the Jew haters and the welchers are having a conclave. How nice!
 

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The attack occurred in 1967, Lyndon Johnson was president, Obviously the kennedys had something to do with it, the kennedys are far left, Obama's far left, if anything happens in the gulf it will be obamas fault - case closed.
 

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<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 5508187" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Scott L</TD><TD class=alt2>Ah, the Jew haters and the welchers are having a conclave. How nice! </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



OK- somebody just put his foot in his mouth. Hey Scott-


Does your anti-semitic/jew hater strategy work well with the Jewish American survivors on the ship?:nohead:

Does your anti-semitic/jew hater strategy work for the Israeli pilot who refused to fire on a clearly marked American ship flying a fucking American flag? He was told to ignore it and fire on the ship anyway. When he refused he was ordered to return to base where he was arrested. A true hero in my eyes. He knew the difference between right and wrong and wasnt afraid to say it.


I challenge anyone to debate the case of the U.S.S. Liberty with me or Doc or anyone (Im sure w'ed all like to)with DP as your MOD? No? Why not? Is it off limits? Grounds for being banned? Why - because youd get your ass kicked- thats why...


The story from your side is so full of holes a two year old could win a debate against any apologists you put up.


Ill assume youre excuse is it was an accident?
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Ready -set- go- now watchem start runnin from this thread...so long!
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You can't get near a carrier group once it's at sea.

The whole group is on permanent alert and if, say, a greek trampship strayed into the group protection zone the destroyer escort would literally ram it and board it before the carrier even showed up over the horizon.

Non carrier group aircraft and shipping are warned off bigtime once a carrier group is at sea.
 

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The Suez Canal on the other hand is a deathtrap if ANYONE with an axe to grind wants to lob RPGs at the US Navy.

This is all you need.
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...but no-one ever does...

Look how easy it would be. A complete doddle.
http://www.cusnc.navy.mil/articles/2007/020.html


It's all smoke and mirrors.

The baad muzzies are going to get us. woooooo
The baad Zionists are going to shoot at our Navy. wooooo

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Oh yes.

Another great contribution from Mr Eek to this forum.
 

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every second I tell you, one every second
 

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TR, I'm gonna be as nice as I can possibly be to a jerkoff like you, OK buddy.

Let me say this so you and all your Jewhater buddies can understand.

THE SAME RETARDS IN THIS FORUM WHO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO THE POINT OF INCREDULITY TO BELIEVE THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT MURDERED ITS OWN CITIZENS ON 9/11 ARE THE SAME RETARDS WHO BELIEVE ISRAEL DELIBERATELY TARGETTED AN AMERICAN SHIP IN 1967.

IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT THESE SAME AFOREMENTIONED RETARDS WHO GATHER IN THE TRUTHER THREADS TO POST YOUTUBE VIDEOS THAT "PROVE BUSH DID IT" ARE THE SAME RETARDS WHO BLAME ISRAEL FOR EVERYTHING SINCE 19__AND IGNORE DECADES OF RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

YEP BUDDY, YOU HATE JEWS. AND YOU ARE EVIL AND DELUSIONAL. YOU DON'T CARE WHAT ISRAEL DOES; YOU ONLY CARE WHO THEY ARE! BUT THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. I'M JUST POINTING IT OUT.
 

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I dont have anything to add here, but since scott L again is running around pointing fingers here, I probably should be a part of this thread.

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I know Scott, but I cannot resist.

<center>Dean Rusk Writes about USS Liberty

</center> Dean Rusk, Johnson's Secretary of State (in the only known instance where he disagreed with the President) wrote: "We also lost 34 American lives when, on June 8, the fourth day of the war, the U.S. communications ship Liberty came under air and naval attack. We were meeting with President Johnson in the White House situation room, considering the implications had the Soviets or Egyptians attacked the ship, when we received word from Tel Aviv that Israeli forces were responsible. That didn't please us, although an Israeli attack on Liberty was far easier to deal with. But I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."
Rusk's memoirs: "As I Saw It" (W.W.Norton, 1990) p388


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"Accidents don't occur through repeated attacks by surface vessels and aircraft. It obviously was a decision made pretty high up on the Israeli side, because it involved combined forces. The ship was flying an American flag. My judgment was that somewhere along the line some fairly senior official gave the go ahead. I personally did not accept the Israeli explanation."
<cite> -- US Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Recorded interview, www.ussliberty.org</cite>


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"...the board of inquiry (concluded) that the Israelis knew exactly what they were doing in attacking the Liberty."
<cite> -- CIA Director Richard Helms in his book A Look Over my Shoulder</cite>
 

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