ISIS may have sealed their fate by fucking with the wrong nation

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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/18/asia/isis-hostages-china-norway/index.html?eref=rss_asia

[h=1]Beijing vows justice as ISIS kills Chinese, Norwegian hostages[/h]
Good for the Chi-coms. Dipshits like Guesser will say that conservatives are now "enamored" with the Chinese, but I'm all for anyone who wants to join in the fight of eliminating them...especially if they are ruthless and merciless during a war. The Chinese army would wipe out these bastards, if not the entire country, within a matter of days.

How absolutely sad that the U.S. is going to not only sit back on the sidelines and watch other nations perhaps crush this cancer.
 

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Good to see other countries join the fight. Wish it didn't take a Paris massacre for it to happen but glad it's happening. I mean where have they been....we've been dropping bombs for years and going it alone. Just talk from other nations. Get others involved and we can crush these assholes.
 

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The Chinese could put 500,000 boots on the ground in Syria. That would be pretty damn epic if they leveled the place and installed a satellite capital that had to bow down to Beijing.
 

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The Chinese could put 500,000 boots on the ground in Syria. That would be pretty damn epic if they leveled the place and installed a satellite capital that had to bow down to Beijing.

Serious question.....where have they been? Why did it take this for others to get involved for real.....not just there in spirit. I don't care how it's done or how many countries it takes ......lets kill every terrorist we can.
 

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as a guess. The Chinese & Russians are allied with Iran. I think they were led to believe that by having such an alliance the Iranians would back-channel to prevent this sort of thing. The problem is the ISIS nuts are crazier than the Iranian hard liners and it all has gotten out of control.
 

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as a guess. The Chinese & Russians are allied with Iran. I think they were led to believe that by having such an alliance the Iranians would back-channel to prevent this sort of thing. The problem is the ISIS nuts are crazier than the Iranian hard liners and it all has gotten out of control.

Ok....at this point I don't give a fuck who or how.....just kill em.
 

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as a guess. The Chinese & Russians are allied with Iran. I think they were led to believe that by having such an alliance the Iranians would back-channel to prevent this sort of thing. The problem is the ISIS nuts are crazier than the Iranian hard liners and it all has gotten out of control.



The article also points out that they have a history of not getting involved in the conflicts of other nations, unless it directly affects them. They are still under communist rule, and unless the dictator in charge wants to expand his empire and conquer other nations (like Hitler attempted), they are generally content to sit in the background and be self-sufficient.

Come to think of it, I can't even recall the last time they engaged in a major war. Crushing the Tiananmen Square uprising doesn't count. Vietnam, I guess?
 

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"ISIS may have sealed their fate by fucking with the wrong nation"

Don't you wish you could say that about America?

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Be like Jesus - turn the other cheek until your country ends up dead nailed to a cross!


The latest craze is to forgive. The heroes are those that forgive. We are stronger if we forgive.


It is just the same branch of the poisonous tree of liberalism.



To hell with this forgiveness bullshit, keep kicking ass.
 

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The latest craze is to forgive. The heroes are those that forgive. We are stronger if we forgive.


It is just the same branch of the poisonous tree of liberalism.



To hell with this forgiveness bullshit, keep kicking ass.

Where do you guys come up with this shit? Who wants to forgive terrorists killing people? One or two idiots? Man you guys live in an alternate universe.
 

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A friendly fire incident between two pilots over a crowded sky could really fuck shit up over there. Better be coordinated over who flies where.
 

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ISIS screwed with the wrong nation when then downed the Russian Airliner. History repeating itself again.
Germany was doing just fine until Hitler had the nutty idea of attacking Russia in June 1941.
ISIS was doing just fine until it foolishly blew a Russian airliner out of the sky in Nov 2015.

If perhaps the most powerful army that ever marched was bought down by biting off more than it could chew,
imagime what over reaching will do to a ragtag bunch of 40,000 devotees!
 

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ISIS screwed with the wrong nation when then downed the Russian Airliner. History repeating itself again.
Germany was doing just fine until Hitler had the nutty idea of attacking Russia in June 1941.
ISIS was doing just fine until it foolishly blew a Russian airliner out of the sky in Nov 2015.

If perhaps the most powerful army that ever marched was bought down by biting off more than it could chew,
imagime what over reaching will do to a ragtag bunch of 40,000 devotees!


Yes Stalingrad was the beginning of the end , with the loss of Hitler's best Army the 6th Army, and the first time a Field Marshall had ever surrounded.


If ISIS hits Russia's homeland then Putin will go for ground troops to take Raqqa and all the oil fields.
 

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Yes Stalingrad was the beginning of the end , with the loss of Hitler's best Army the 6th Army, and the first time a Field Marshall had ever surrounded.


If ISIS hits Russia's homeland then Putin will go for ground troops to take Raqqa and all the oil fields.

ISIS messed with a country chomping at the bit to sharpen it's teeth.
“Chechen special ops waiting for Putin to give the word,
Chechen special forces units were at a very high level of combat readiness and promised
that “as soon as the terrorists in Syria understand that we are heading there they will
very quickly get out,” adding that terrorists have little experience of real warfare.

“We know them because we have destroyed them here, we have fought them.
And they also know us,” the Chechen leader said. Other than martyrdom, this will not end well for Isis.
 

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ISIS messed with a country chomping at the bit to sharpen it's teeth.
“Chechen special ops waiting for Putin to give the word,
Chechen special forces units were at a very high level of combat readiness and promised
that “as soon as the terrorists in Syria understand that we are heading there they will
very quickly get out,” adding that terrorists have little experience of real warfare.

“We know them because we have destroyed them here, we have fought them.
And they also know us,” the Chechen leader said. Other than martyrdom, this will not end well for Isis.




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Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Chechnya, said he would like to fight the Islamic State group in Syria

Chechnya’s leader Ramzan Kadyrov said he was ready to send his best fighters to support Moscow’s efforts and fight the Islamic State group, the Russian state news agency Tass reported. Kadyrov, the Kremlin-backed ruler of the Chechen republic in Russia's North Caucasus region, said he fully supports President Vladimir Putin’s decision to send warplanes to Syria and begin a bombing campaign.
"If Russia’s Supreme Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Putin issues an order, we are ready already tomorrow to send world-class specialists who have no equal in the West. We have the experience and knowledge," Kadyrov wrote on his page in a social network, according to Tass. “I’m convinced that the evil [ISIS] should be eliminated in its lair. We cannot wait until they come to our towns and villages.”
Several thousand Chechen servicemen are ready to participate in the fight against ISIS in Syria if there is such a need, Kadyrov told reporters in his capital of Grozny, Tass said.







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I wonder which side the Chechnyans will be on once they get there:

Why being Chechen is a badge of honor for Islamist militants

By Adam Taylor July 3, 2014
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This undated image posted on a militant social media account, which has been verified and is consistent with other AP reporting, shows Omar al-Shishani climbing out of a humvee. (AP via militant social media account)
While Islamic State's famously reclusive leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi remains in hiding and is rarely photographed, another young Islamist fighter has come forward to publicly represent the group in videos and photographs shared on social media. This man, however, stands out from his largely Arabic fellow fighters.
That's because the militant known as Omar al-Shishani, a rising star in Islamic State's Islamist campaign across the Middle East, is from the Russian Republic of Chechnya. What's more, he's one of more than 500 militants from Russia who have joined the fight in Syria, according to Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB). And that estimate could be low; another from the Soufan Group suggests that more than 800 may have headed to the Middle East to fight.
The Associated Press reports that Shishani had been in charge of Islamic State's military operations in Syria and may now be the overall leader on the battlefield after the death of Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Bilawi al-Anbari in early June. Like other Chechens, he has come to be thought of as among the best fighters in the Islamist groups.
In many ways, this isn't a surprising turn of events: Chechnya and its people have a modern history of violence that has created a number of battle-hardened fighters. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 led to the chaotic creation of the Chechen Republic, which in turn sought independence from Russia. The two sides came to war in 1994, in a particularly bloody conflict, with tens of thousands of civilians believed to have been killed before Russia finally retreated in 1996.
The Chechens, though Muslim, generally lacked an Islamist element: Dzhokhar Dudayev, the most prominent leader of the rebels, was fighting for nationalist reasons rather than religious ones. However, the chaotic and indiscriminate use of force by Russian forces against Chechens left a deep mark on many, and members of Islamist groups such as al-Qaeda came to the country, drawn by media reports. While the influence of these Islamist fighters may have been limited at the time (most did not speak Russian, and their religious practices bore little resemblance to the moderate Sufi practices of most Chechens), they do appear to have had longer-term influences.
After the First Chechen War ended, a period of insurgency followed, and in 1999, the Second Chechen War was sparked by Islamist attempts to invade the neighboring region of Dagestan and a series of apartment bombings in Russia and Dagestan. While Russian troops were eventually able to quash the Chechen rebels and regain control of Chechnya, it was another brutal, bloody war, leaving tens of thousands of civilians dead. This time, foreign jihadists had a far stronger influence, which was notable in a number of spectacular terrorist attacks, including the 2002 taking of hostages at a Moscow theater and the 2004 storming of a school in Beslan, North Ossetia.
After virtually two decades of fighting and insurgency in Chechnya, many Chechen fighters have extensive battlefield experience. They have already made contact with foreign Islamist groups that now fight in Syria and Iraq. They were well-versed in the use of guerrilla tactics that could be used against traditional armies that are technologically and numerically superior. They also understood how to use propaganda and terror attacks to win over converts and awe their enemies, clearly a key part of Islamic State's current strategy. In Iraq and Syria right now, these are all very useful skills.
For Chechens, too, taking their fight outside the Caucasus makes sense: It shows their solidarity with a global jihad movement and allows them to escape Russia (where many may be wanted by authorities) or Turkey (where many live in illegal exile). And, in the case of Syria, it allows them to battle an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin (Bashar al-Assad). Many may hope to pick up contacts for an eventual return to fighting in Russia, a possibility that clearly concerns Moscow.
For Islamists, it seems that being Chechen can be a badge of honor: You've already survived one of the most terrible conflicts of recent memory, so you must know what to do to withstand another. Hussein Nasser, a spokesman for the Islamic Front coalition of Syrian rebels, told the Associated Press that Chechens were feared because they will do whatever their leader tells them to do. “Even if his emir tells him to kill a child, he would do it," Nasser explains. And the Chechen reputation for toughness goes back even further,
"Chechen boys are raised as warriors and survivors, which should not be surprising given the turbulent history of Chechnya and the North Caucasus in general," Simon Saradzhyan, a research fellow at Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard University and expert on Russia, told me. "Even Russian czars, who lost many troops conquering Chechnya, recognized these qualities. Hence, Chechens formed a cavalry sub-unit in the Savage Division that fought on fronts of World War I 100 years ago."
Shishani seems to understand this: The ethnic Chechen was known as Tarkhan Batirashvili when he worked in an intelligence unit of the Georgian army, the Wall Street Journal reports. At 28 years old, it's unlikely he ever directly experienced the fighting that made Chechens so notorious, but he knows its power. His nom de guerre, "Omar al-Shishani," means simply "Omar the Chechen."
 

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