Barman
cant really bring back the "wasgood" nickname just yet, he's a good goalie when he's focused and you cant blame him, the wings gave up a shorty during back2back pp's and detroit didnt respond what's he to do?
hard for anyoone to play in a white yano? glad your pens made it a even (and good) series woody i hope it goes to 7 and the best team win in detroit, the pens are good enough this year hossa or no hossa, they got the depth as well as the wings do so this could turn out to be a thriller, hopefully u guys dont steal the next one in detroit or it could be an early christmas in pittsburgh!
p.s. not rooting for either team but i WOULD like to see the underdogs win the rematch just for the entertainment value, and at least nobody is talking about the calls this series the refs have really left them play and calling the good penalties, GL TO BOTH SIDES and GL TO ALL BETTORS wherever your money lies
hard for anyoone to play in a white yano? glad your pens made it a even (and good) series woody i hope it goes to 7 and the best team win in detroit, the pens are good enough this year hossa or no hossa, they got the depth as well as the wings do so this could turn out to be a thriller, hopefully u guys dont steal the next one in detroit or it could be an early christmas in pittsburgh!
p.s. not rooting for either team but i WOULD like to see the underdogs win the rematch just for the entertainment value, and at least nobody is talking about the calls this series the refs have really left them play and calling the good penalties, GL TO BOTH SIDES and GL TO ALL BETTORS wherever your money lies
http://www.freep.com/article/201107...to-retire?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS
After 16 years in NHL, Red Wings goalie Chris Osgood retires
12:15 PM, Jul. 19, 2011**|**
Detroit Red Wings goaltender Chris Osgood has topped 400 NHL victories and has three Stanley Cups to his name, two of them as a starter.
He announced today that he won’t be adding to those numbers -- deciding to retire after 16 seasons in the NHL, 13 of them with the Wings, the team that selected him 54th overall in the 1991 draft.
“It’s taken me a long time to think about this, since two weeks after the season ended,” Osgood said. “There were a number of issues, one being the injury I had. Knowing that I can still play made this difficult.
“I wrestled with it every day, but I’ve decided to retire.”
Osgood told general manager Ken Holland of his decision Saturday night, after the two met in Vernon, British Columbia, where both have off-season homes.
“In the end, it was just the right time for me,” Osgood said. “After I told Kenny, I felt at peace with myself. I felt relaxed. I felt like it was the right thing. In the end, my body was telling me no, my mind was telling me no, my heart was saying yes, keep playing. But in the end, I feel it was 100% the right decision.”
Osgood underwent sports hernia surgery in January and didn’t play again the rest of the season.
The Wings now have to find an alternative backup for Jimmy Howard. Joey MacDonald was signed earlier this month, but that was to a two-way deal because the Wings see MacDonald as a third-stringer.
The Wings made a play for Tomas Vokoun as soon as free agency began July 1, but he opted to sign for $1.5 million with Washington. He’ll get a chance be the starter there, something he wouldn’t have had in Detroit. At this point, the top goalies left on the market are former Wing Ty Conklin, Ray Emery and Marty Turco (Michigan).
Holland said he anticipates having a goaltender signed by the end of the week. That’s what's up next for the Wings.
Next up for Osgood: A job helping with the development of the team’s young goaltenders.
Next up in the hockey world: Debating whether Osgood, 38, should get into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
He likely will be, albeit not as a first-ballot guy. Wings defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom is a no-brainer first-ballot inductee, meaning he’ll be in as soon as the minimum three years of retirement have passed.
Osgood is likelier to be voted after several years of retirement. The fact that he’s just the 10th goalie in NHL history to reach 400 victories is a pretty strong argument (consider, for example, Dino Cicarrelli, who got in on the strength of having scored 608 goals. He retired in 1999 and was selected for membership in 2010).
In 744 career NHL games with the Wings, New York Islanders and St. Louis Blues, Osgood had 401 victories and 50 shutouts. He ranks eighth all-time with 74 playoff victories and fourth with 15 shutouts. He led the Wings to the Stanley Cup in ’98 and ’08. He was the backup for the ’97 championship and led the Wings all the way to Game 7 of the 2009 finals.
After 16 years in NHL, Red Wings goalie Chris Osgood retires
12:15 PM, Jul. 19, 2011**|**
Detroit Red Wings goaltender Chris Osgood has topped 400 NHL victories and has three Stanley Cups to his name, two of them as a starter.
He announced today that he won’t be adding to those numbers -- deciding to retire after 16 seasons in the NHL, 13 of them with the Wings, the team that selected him 54th overall in the 1991 draft.
“It’s taken me a long time to think about this, since two weeks after the season ended,” Osgood said. “There were a number of issues, one being the injury I had. Knowing that I can still play made this difficult.
“I wrestled with it every day, but I’ve decided to retire.”
Osgood told general manager Ken Holland of his decision Saturday night, after the two met in Vernon, British Columbia, where both have off-season homes.
“In the end, it was just the right time for me,” Osgood said. “After I told Kenny, I felt at peace with myself. I felt relaxed. I felt like it was the right thing. In the end, my body was telling me no, my mind was telling me no, my heart was saying yes, keep playing. But in the end, I feel it was 100% the right decision.”
Osgood underwent sports hernia surgery in January and didn’t play again the rest of the season.
The Wings now have to find an alternative backup for Jimmy Howard. Joey MacDonald was signed earlier this month, but that was to a two-way deal because the Wings see MacDonald as a third-stringer.
The Wings made a play for Tomas Vokoun as soon as free agency began July 1, but he opted to sign for $1.5 million with Washington. He’ll get a chance be the starter there, something he wouldn’t have had in Detroit. At this point, the top goalies left on the market are former Wing Ty Conklin, Ray Emery and Marty Turco (Michigan).
Holland said he anticipates having a goaltender signed by the end of the week. That’s what's up next for the Wings.
Next up for Osgood: A job helping with the development of the team’s young goaltenders.
Next up in the hockey world: Debating whether Osgood, 38, should get into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
He likely will be, albeit not as a first-ballot guy. Wings defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom is a no-brainer first-ballot inductee, meaning he’ll be in as soon as the minimum three years of retirement have passed.
Osgood is likelier to be voted after several years of retirement. The fact that he’s just the 10th goalie in NHL history to reach 400 victories is a pretty strong argument (consider, for example, Dino Cicarrelli, who got in on the strength of having scored 608 goals. He retired in 1999 and was selected for membership in 2010).
In 744 career NHL games with the Wings, New York Islanders and St. Louis Blues, Osgood had 401 victories and 50 shutouts. He ranks eighth all-time with 74 playoff victories and fourth with 15 shutouts. He led the Wings to the Stanley Cup in ’98 and ’08. He was the backup for the ’97 championship and led the Wings all the way to Game 7 of the 2009 finals.
If Osgood isn't good, neither is Brodeur. Same goalie. Great when there's a great team in front of him, bad to mediocre when the team falls apart. Hell, Osgood didn't even have the luxury of playing in front of a trap for 20 years that kept quality shots to an absolute minimum, and barely saw serious rebounds with any consistency. Look at Marty's highlights-huge saves, which keeps us from recognizing the amazing play Neidermayer or Rafalski or whoever made to sweep up the rebound. What do you think sticks in the mind of someone trained by the media to believe Brodeur is amazing? The floppy needlessly french-canadian limb-flailing save? Or the simple, forgettable rebound sweep which saved a goal as much as Marty did?
Same goes for most goalies behind great teams. Unless you're Dominik Hasek or The Beezer, your team makes or breaks you most of the time. It's the boring reality of the position.
Same goes for most goalies behind great teams. Unless you're Dominik Hasek or The Beezer, your team makes or breaks you most of the time. It's the boring reality of the position.
