I remember back in '97 when Island Casino introduced their online BJ. They sent invitations to their sports betting clients asking if we would participate as beta testers for the software. We rcvd $250 in chips and we were allowed to keep any winnings. I talked to the owner on the phone a few times giving him feedback and I know from conversation the game was legit at that time. I, along with others, were beating him too often though. He switched to a shuffle after every hand. I was friggin' hooked back then. I remember winning 2-3k in some all night sessions that were just absolutely exhausting. I'd nurse the winnings for a few days, betting baseball and trying to make the most of house money. Invariably it would all come to an end though... an evil loop of win -win -win and then lose it all. I would usually end my betting day playing online blackjack trying to do something stupid like get my bankroll to a nice even number. This would seem innocent enough as I would promise myself that if I go down more then $300 then to back off, turn off the pc and play the next day... No way Jose.. Never could back off... always slammed thru the entire bankroll usually losing at an 80% rate. Just sickening when the cards fell at that rate. Used to punch the monitor quite hard.
Regardless of whether it's rigged or not, it's fcking evil. Run to the hills.
Regardless of whether it's rigged or not, it's fcking evil. Run to the hills.
There is no way of knowing for certain if online blackjack is fixed. However, it would be close to impossible to get caught if the online casinos programmed themselves an extra 3-4% edge. If you think all online casinos are on the "up and up" you are extremely naive.
I'd steer clear from them at all costs.
I'd steer clear from them at all costs.
its rigged. its a highly intelligent program.
from what ive read on the people losing, it senses when you are desperate based on how long it takes to place a bet and then gives you a hand based on that. basically, if you click bet again or whatever immediately, the program will give you an impossible hand, where as if you linger awhile you may get a more favorable hand.
thats how i assume the program would be run.
from what ive read on the people losing, it senses when you are desperate based on how long it takes to place a bet and then gives you a hand based on that. basically, if you click bet again or whatever immediately, the program will give you an impossible hand, where as if you linger awhile you may get a more favorable hand.
thats how i assume the program would be run.
Even if the casino had a sophisticated rigged program that could give itself an extra edge of 3-4%, it probably wouldn't use it, as there would be bigger profits in offering the normal game. Why? Because nobody could win money even in a short session with those kind of odds. They don't want that. You'd play once and exasperated by your horrible "luck", be gone forever.
BJ is so popular because you CAN win in a short session. You can even win big playing an entire weekend, that's because the house edge is so small. When you win you tell people about it and where you won. This is good for a casino.
Over time, the online casino would reap the biggest profits in offering the normal game, so there is really no reason to rig it.
I think it clearly is rigged and I also agree with GTC08 that the selections you chose to speed up the game (repeat same bet and fast deal) make it that much more a losing proposition. The only online blackjack I would play and actually think is on the up and up are the head to head blackjack tournaments at 5 dimes. You don't play agains the house, you play against other people so the house doesn't care who wins. They take their 10% off the top from each player and that is it. You don't see those drawing 5s on 16s that you do in online blackjack all the time. The only thing is a 10% vig from each player is pretty steep and unless you are a very good strategist and chip manager, you are going to lose in the long run.
Vegas is more in business because of other casino games. I have never seen a professional slot player or Roulette player but I have seen guys who make a living playing Blackjack! Online BJ is probably rigged but it's tough to prove. The only experiences I have had playing blackjack online have been bad ones. It always seems that I start out with a 100.00 investment and make it to about 450.00 to 500.00 and then the wheels fall off and the dealer starts pulling these ridiculous hands. I never deviate from the way I play and am quite successful at casinos but online is just a different animal. And I am not willing to risk any more money online and have stood firm to this rule for close to 6 years!
The games aren't rigged. They don't need to be. They can take all a bettor's money with an honest game because people won't stop playing and math can't be beat. It's really that simple. Bettors crying "Rigged!" don't understand the mathematics behind blackjack or think they can magically beat them.
Think of it this way: Let's suppose I know you absolutely love to gamble by flipping coins, so we start a game where we each flip a quarter. If both coins land the same -- both heads or both tails -- you win and take my quarter. If the coins land differently I win, but every time you flip three heads in a row I ALSO win, no matter what my coin lands.
Why would I ever want to rig that game? I know you'll keep coming back and I know I'll eventually take all your money. In the long run it'll put more money in my pocket to keep the game honest and just endure the few short-run winning streaks you get on.
The Over/Under on how long until the next "Is online blackjack rigged?" thread is opened is 11 days.
"The games aren't rigged. They don't need to be."
The comment makes no sense. It is like saying why do loan sharks take 25% when they can do quite nicely getting 15%.
The answer is why get a 3 or 4% edge when you can get a 7 or 8% edge? The fact that they can get away with it is reason enough as there is no regulation.
The comment makes no sense. It is like saying why do loan sharks take 25% when they can do quite nicely getting 15%.
The answer is why get a 3 or 4% edge when you can get a 7 or 8% edge? The fact that they can get away with it is reason enough as there is no regulation.
Loan sharks can charge interest rates like that because their clients have no where else to go. My e-mail spam box is filled with offers from online casinos, all of which offer blackjack.
You lose money because the game is inherently stacked against you. But if it makes you feel better to rationalize your losses by claiming the game is "rigged," don't let me stop you.
You can go to several different websites, Wongs, Casinomeister,etc and get PERFECT Blackjack strategy to read as you sit there and play. So if the casino knows that you can sit there and play PERFECTLY and your still in the long run going to lose then it really doesnt make any differance if its rigged or not.
I play some at Absloute Pokers tables and i dont lose everytime and when i do get on a win streak i quit while im ahead which is the ONLY way you beat ANY gambling game. You use money management principles and YOU QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD..
I dare say anybody who is winning at Live blackjack wins at online also...i just dont believe there is very many of either 1..
I play some at Absloute Pokers tables and i dont lose everytime and when i do get on a win streak i quit while im ahead which is the ONLY way you beat ANY gambling game. You use money management principles and YOU QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD..
I dare say anybody who is winning at Live blackjack wins at online also...i just dont believe there is very many of either 1..
Try this test
Pick any site, but for this test pick on online sportsbook.
Deposit $700 in your Real Money account
Have $700 in your PLAY Money account
Play $5/hand in PLAY money for 30-1hr each day for 7 days, and play basic poker strategy
Then do the same with REAL MONEY. Same rules, $5/hand for 30-1hr each day for 7 days.
Then come back and let us know what the results were.
You will have your answer.
Here's a HINT .. You want last the 7 days in REAL MONEY!
Pick any site, but for this test pick on online sportsbook.
Deposit $700 in your Real Money account
Have $700 in your PLAY Money account
Play $5/hand in PLAY money for 30-1hr each day for 7 days, and play basic poker strategy
Then do the same with REAL MONEY. Same rules, $5/hand for 30-1hr each day for 7 days.
Then come back and let us know what the results were.
You will have your answer.
Here's a HINT .. You want last the 7 days in REAL MONEY!
No one is arguing that online casinos need to rig blackjack. The fact is the house advantage on blackjack is around 1% if you're an "expert" player. That will yield them profit in the longterm no doubt, but If you're telling me that online casinos are rigging it in no way, shape, or form you're being naive. They could program it multiple ways, such as lowering your % on winning a hand when you bet higher than your usual amount etc.
To say with confidence it's not fixed is lunacy, as is being 100% sure it's fixed without evidence. However, if you're looking to blow your money on BJ -at least go to a REAL casino.
To say with confidence it's not fixed is lunacy, as is being 100% sure it's fixed without evidence. However, if you're looking to blow your money on BJ -at least go to a REAL casino.
I think anybody who says it is not rigged either never played there or is just trying to test their arguing skills.
I wish somebody who has played the blackjack tournaments chimes in and gives their opinion whether is it fixed or not. There are very few people who play them. In fact, you can sometimes visit the blackjack tournament room and wait 1/2 hour before somebody comes by and is willing to play for the same stakes you are willing to. That alone would make me think the game is clean as we all know that the conventional online bj can be played 24/7.
I wish somebody who has played the blackjack tournaments chimes in and gives their opinion whether is it fixed or not. There are very few people who play them. In fact, you can sometimes visit the blackjack tournament room and wait 1/2 hour before somebody comes by and is willing to play for the same stakes you are willing to. That alone would make me think the game is clean as we all know that the conventional online bj can be played 24/7.
