My PERSONAL feelings on ROYAL are as follows.......
First off, right to the jest of this thread topic and that is the ownership of Royal by this so called "Tej". Personally, I have no idea if he has any ownership in Royal whatsoever. Rumors or facts have linked him to non-ownership to as much as 3 years. Again, I have not talked to anybody with insight into this and we all will probably know more on this 'developing' fact/rumor later in the day.
True or not, I can only give you what I have learned about ROYAL from the times I have played there, moderated issues with them, handled disputes, met CEO Kevin King(in person and on phone), and how they have conducted themselves in and out of the forum.
Royal has A-L-W-A-Y-S paid those that have requested payouts.
Have they NUMEROUS times slow paid customers? Most certainly....from as little as 48 hours to some over 7 days as I recall.
I know they have bailed customers out of books that went belly-up with matching bonus incentives which they deserve high high praise for doing so.
From the time CEO Roberto C. stepped down till the approximently 2-4 weeks before ROYAL came on as an advertiser this last time, yours trully was as vocal as anybody in criticizing the ROYAL operation and advised others not to risk much money there, IF ANY.
Then had the oppurtunity to meet Kevin King firsthand at last years bash(august) for a lengthy discussion which involved a high percentage of talk about nothing but BetRoyal and its operation of other sister books. Having met Mr. King, I can tell you that I was very impressed with his intentions for BetRoyal and enjoyed the chance to discuss business with him.
Still, I was not totally convinced to the point where I was confortable in recommending BetRoyal to my friends and posters.
I have very little say as a moderater about who can and cannot advertise here at the RX. However, having said that, most all of those that do work here at the RX have some imput and SHRINK, MANAGEMENT, and OWNERSHIP do weigh ALL of our opinions if we are willing to speak up on whatever topic may do good or bad to the RX as a whole.
I cannot say with 100% certainity, but I would suspect ROYAL would have been back sooner at RX this last time if I wasnt as vocal to, THE GENERAL and THE SHRINK in particular, on my concerns with ROYAL as I was not yet convinced they were a place that the RX should take on as PERSONALLY I did not feel confortable sending ANY money there and certainly not to others to do so.
A few months later I became to like what I was seeing at ROYAL and this is what I pondered......
1. Never a NO-pay
2. The successful bailouts of other books
3. Speaking more with Mr. King via phone
4. Their new website and they way they were bookmaking
5. A SIGNIFICANT reduction in slow-pays.
After considering all of the above and more, I personally was confortable sending my OWN money to Royal and have since done so. Actually, MR. KING even asked me if I was confortable in recommending them to readers of the RX BEFORE they reached their final contract agreement with the RX and I told him I had no significant problem with BetROYAL anymore and if I was confortable sending my own funds, I would certainly not inform readers to NOT deposit with Royal. Obviously it is important that each and every individual have their own RISK threashold and should always proceed with caution with any book offshore. However, at the time, I certainly in no way would classify ROYAL as a HIGH RISK book anymore where one should not send funds to. In fact, I would have had them below the moderate risk level.
Do I feel confortable now with ROYAL?
To be frank, considering we are headed to FINAL FOUR weekend(danger area), the latest aquisations/rumors/facts circulating about them.........I personally would take a wait and see attitude on them.......be they be an advertiser or not, that is my feeling on them. Personally, I may still play there during baseball season if nothing of significant proportions comes out about them in the next few days.
Having said that, I would be very surprised and shocked if anybody is NEVER not payed by ROYAL.......that is my gut feeling. Personally, I may still play there during baseball season if nothing of significant proportions comes out about them in the next few days.
I know have failed to answer numorous questions you may have about ROYAL, but will be as frank and honest with as possible if you would like to ask me some. Again, I dont know a whole lot more than most of you on this situation and many of you know more than me.
This is why this forum and ALL forums are great for the offshore player.......so we each can dissect the thoughts of each other and make our OWN DECISIONS on how to attack the offshore gambling world.
Peace,
-FISH-
First off, right to the jest of this thread topic and that is the ownership of Royal by this so called "Tej". Personally, I have no idea if he has any ownership in Royal whatsoever. Rumors or facts have linked him to non-ownership to as much as 3 years. Again, I have not talked to anybody with insight into this and we all will probably know more on this 'developing' fact/rumor later in the day.
True or not, I can only give you what I have learned about ROYAL from the times I have played there, moderated issues with them, handled disputes, met CEO Kevin King(in person and on phone), and how they have conducted themselves in and out of the forum.
Royal has A-L-W-A-Y-S paid those that have requested payouts.
Have they NUMEROUS times slow paid customers? Most certainly....from as little as 48 hours to some over 7 days as I recall.
I know they have bailed customers out of books that went belly-up with matching bonus incentives which they deserve high high praise for doing so.
From the time CEO Roberto C. stepped down till the approximently 2-4 weeks before ROYAL came on as an advertiser this last time, yours trully was as vocal as anybody in criticizing the ROYAL operation and advised others not to risk much money there, IF ANY.
Then had the oppurtunity to meet Kevin King firsthand at last years bash(august) for a lengthy discussion which involved a high percentage of talk about nothing but BetRoyal and its operation of other sister books. Having met Mr. King, I can tell you that I was very impressed with his intentions for BetRoyal and enjoyed the chance to discuss business with him.
Still, I was not totally convinced to the point where I was confortable in recommending BetRoyal to my friends and posters.
I have very little say as a moderater about who can and cannot advertise here at the RX. However, having said that, most all of those that do work here at the RX have some imput and SHRINK, MANAGEMENT, and OWNERSHIP do weigh ALL of our opinions if we are willing to speak up on whatever topic may do good or bad to the RX as a whole.
I cannot say with 100% certainity, but I would suspect ROYAL would have been back sooner at RX this last time if I wasnt as vocal to, THE GENERAL and THE SHRINK in particular, on my concerns with ROYAL as I was not yet convinced they were a place that the RX should take on as PERSONALLY I did not feel confortable sending ANY money there and certainly not to others to do so.
A few months later I became to like what I was seeing at ROYAL and this is what I pondered......
1. Never a NO-pay
2. The successful bailouts of other books
3. Speaking more with Mr. King via phone
4. Their new website and they way they were bookmaking
5. A SIGNIFICANT reduction in slow-pays.
After considering all of the above and more, I personally was confortable sending my OWN money to Royal and have since done so. Actually, MR. KING even asked me if I was confortable in recommending them to readers of the RX BEFORE they reached their final contract agreement with the RX and I told him I had no significant problem with BetROYAL anymore and if I was confortable sending my own funds, I would certainly not inform readers to NOT deposit with Royal. Obviously it is important that each and every individual have their own RISK threashold and should always proceed with caution with any book offshore. However, at the time, I certainly in no way would classify ROYAL as a HIGH RISK book anymore where one should not send funds to. In fact, I would have had them below the moderate risk level.
Do I feel confortable now with ROYAL?
To be frank, considering we are headed to FINAL FOUR weekend(danger area), the latest aquisations/rumors/facts circulating about them.........I personally would take a wait and see attitude on them.......be they be an advertiser or not, that is my feeling on them. Personally, I may still play there during baseball season if nothing of significant proportions comes out about them in the next few days.
Having said that, I would be very surprised and shocked if anybody is NEVER not payed by ROYAL.......that is my gut feeling. Personally, I may still play there during baseball season if nothing of significant proportions comes out about them in the next few days.
I know have failed to answer numorous questions you may have about ROYAL, but will be as frank and honest with as possible if you would like to ask me some. Again, I dont know a whole lot more than most of you on this situation and many of you know more than me.
This is why this forum and ALL forums are great for the offshore player.......so we each can dissect the thoughts of each other and make our OWN DECISIONS on how to attack the offshore gambling world.
Peace,
-FISH-
