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I'll agree with you that Cutler is not all that is wrong with the Bears this year. Part of his problems are with his protection.

He needs to make better decisions faced with what he has been given.

he has had no time at all...because the bears oline is the worst in football...

cutler getting drilled & forte with no where to run...

ly...forte ran for over 1,200 yards...

he has just over 500 yards right now...

it does not matter who the qb is when a team does not have a line...because they are not going to be able to pass & they sure as hell ain't going to be able to run
 

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he has had no time at all...because the bears oline is the worst in football...

cutler getting drilled & forte with no where to run...

ly...forte ran for over 1,200 yards...

he has just over 500 yards right now...

it does not matter who the qb is when a team does not have a line...because they are not going to be able to pass & they sure as hell ain't going to be able to run

So what about when Cutler was in Denver? Orton threw INT's with Chicago and now he is making plays in Denver.
 

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So what about when Cutler was in Denver? Orton threw INT's with Chicago and now he is making plays in Denver.

cutler threw for 4500+ yards ly...

25 td's & 18 int's...

but the donkeys did not have a defense...

& he threw for 20 td's & 14 int's in his 1st full season under shanny...

your point about orton is mine...glad you finally see it...orton struggled behind the same oline w/out old man pace...

the bears oline & offensive skill set players have deteriorated into horseshit...

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there is not a qb in the nfl that could win behind that oline
 

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cutler threw for 4500+ yards ly...

25 td's & 18 int's...

but the donkeys did not have a defense...

& he threw for 20 td's & 14 int's in his 1st full season under shanny...

your point about orton is mine...glad you finally see it...orton struggled behind the same oline w/out old man pace...

the bears oline & offensive skill set players have deteriorated into horseshit...

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there is not a qb in the nfl that could win behind that oline

We agree then that Chicago's line is weak, whether with Orton or Cutler. However, Orton is succeeding with the same line Cutler had in Denver and Cutler 32 INT's in 2 seasons while Orton has a much lower ratio. Cutler threw INT's both in Denver and in Chicago. Orton has not.
 

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We agree then that Chicago's line is weak, whether with Orton or Cutler. However, Orton is succeeding with the same line Cutler had in Denver and Cutler 32 INT's in 2 seasons while Orton has a much lower ratio. Cutler threw INT's both in Denver and in Chicago. Orton has not.

big difference...

orton gets to play with a lead...& not two scores down...

because the donkeys have a decent defense...

when cutler was there..

they had the worst defense in the league...& played from behind every game...

huge difference
 

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big difference...

orton gets to play with a lead...& not two scores down...

because the donkeys have a decent defense...

when cutler was there..

they had the worst defense in the league...& played from behind every game...

huge difference

There are plenty of QB's who play on teams with weak defenses playing two scores down who don't throw as many INT's as Cutler has.
 

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pretty strong...

i am not a cutler fan at all...

but if he gets the time & has some decent receivers he can make plays...

your mini assessment of cutler lacked many key items...

the bears do not have an oline worth a damn...w/pace at lt...that is a joke...

& the bears have to rebuild the entire oline...which is not an easy task...

the bears have no playmaking wr's...who in the hell is he supposed to throw the ball to?

That is the Drew Bledsoe argument ... Bledsoe sucked but it was always someone else's fault.

... but Bledsoe is benched in New England and Tom Brady takes the same team and wins the Super Bowl.

... but Bledsoe is benched in Dallas and Tony Romo takes the same team to the playoffs.

Some quarterbacks make the players around them better. Some quarterbacks make them scapegoats.

There are winners and there are losers in this world. Jay Cutler is not a winner. Cutler has a lifetime winning percentage below 50% for a reason.
 

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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/What-do-we-think-of-Cutler-now.html


What do we think of Cutler now?

by Matt Bowen
December 21, 02009

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Twenty-five and counting.
That is the number of interceptions attached to Bears QB Jay Cutler’s name right now. And, I would not be surprised to see Cutler get to 30 by the end of Week 17.
Can we call Cutler a bust in Chicago? Really? Already?
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APBears QB Jay Cutler sits on the bench in the waning moments of another loss littered with INTs.
Bears fans, you are stuck with Cutler for now, for the next season and the season beyond that. He isn’t going anywhere, especially after GM Jerry Angelo pulled off the biggest trade in franchise history that has left this Bears team — a team that is full of gaping holes — with an unloaded gun going into this year’s draft as a result of the picks that they had to give up to replace Kyle Orton.
But, was Orton going to win a championship as the Bears QB? Probably not, and the hope behind that trade was that this club could get a franchise QB, one that they could build around for a decade. I remember the day the deal went down. Living here in the city of Chicago, you would have thought that tickets to this year’s Super Bowl had already gone on sale.
In fact, I would say that the deal to bring Cutler to Chicago brought in so much hope, so many expectations, that you would have thought Ditka was back.
However, that was in the spring. And as we sit here today after another Bears beating and yet another awful performance by Cutler, to say that this is what we expected is so far from the truth.
We can go back to the Thursday night game against the Niners, last week’s home contest against the Packers, and again yesterday in one of the worst performances we have seen under Lovie Smith, and argue that Cutler looks almost, well, confused. From a football standpoint, or from the view of analyzing the X’s and O’s of his season, he almost seems to be predetermined when he comes out the huddle — throwing the ball in places on the field that we usually see from a rookie — and a bad rookie at that.
His first pick yesterday, a slant route thrown against 2-Man coverage — where the corner takes away the inside — speaks volumes of where he is right now as a QB. You can’t throw that ball versus that defense. And Jay should know better. But I am wondering how I am going to still defend a QB whom I think has top-ten talent in this league.
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APCutler has tossed 25 INTs through 14 games in his debut season with the Bears.
Cutler forces passes, he shows us poor technique and he puts so much faith into his right arm that his arrogance on the field is backfiring in the numbers of interceptions he has thrown. Yet, I still like him for some odd reason.
Yes, the Bears have no running game to speak of, their offensive line has major issues, the wide receivers corps looks like the second team in training camp and Lovie Smith’s defense is anything but challenging to offensive coordinators in this league. However, Cutler should still take the heat, should still find a way to produce and should still win games. Because now that he is in Chicago, he is the franchise. Part of the job, you could say.
And Bears fans will have to grow to appreciate that, because whether Ron Turner, QB coach Pep Hamilton or even Lovie Smith ends up taking the fall for this disaster of a football season, Jay isn’t going anywhere. No, he is here to stay in Chicago — and that is the only sure thing for this franchise right now.
Actually, would I even win an argument putting Cutler in the top ten right now?
Doubt it.
 

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Reporters and scouts measure talent with arm strength and dick size.

The guy was a .500 QB before going to Chicago. He's not top 10 and never was ... only the Bears were dumb enough to think he was.
 

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