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This is gonna be tough to come back from. Either he's a bully, or he didn't properly control his staff. Neither are good outcomes for him. What he's going to have to do is be completely 100% transparant. No smart aleck responses. Admit mistakes if he made them. I hope he can.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2014/01/gov_chris_christies_officials.html#incart_river

[h=1]Chris Christie's officials lied about GWB scandal. Did the governor?: Editorial[/h] GEORGE_WASHINGTON__BRIDGE
The Star-Ledger is reporting New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's deputy chief of staff knew of a plan to close local access lanes of the George Washington Bridge and that it would cause significant traffic problems in Fort Lee, N.J. (AP File Photo)

Star-Ledger Editorial Board By Star-Ledger Editorial Board
on January 08, 2014 at 11:06 AM, updated January 08, 2014 at 9:20 PM




E-mails released today revealed two political bombshells: Gov. Chris Christie’s office had advance knowledge of the traffic nightmare at the George Washington Bridge that crippled Fort Lee in September. And his top officials at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey did indeed close the lanes as a form of retribution against the borough’s mayor.
“Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee,” Christie’s deputy chief of staff wrote to David Wildstein, a top Christie appointee at the Port Authority.
Wildstein answered, “Got it.”
Which confirms what critics have suspected all along: This was an outrageous misuse of public resources, a reckless endangerment of the public, and apparently a massive lie. But was the governor in on it?
It would fit his bully pattern. Christie ducked the limelight yesterday, canceling his only public event — and instead of facing questions from reporters, he released only a brief statement saying he is “outraged.” He was misled by a member of his staff, he maintained, and those responsible will be punished.
The test for him now is his willingness to give up all the evidence, without trying to invoke executive privilege to hide anything from the public. For starters, why were some of the names redacted from these e-mails?
Until yesterday, the official line from Christie’s lieutenants at the Port Authority has been that this was all part of some secret “traffic study”; that they were simply curious to see what sort of mayhem would ensue if two of Fort Lee’s three access lanes to the George Washington Bridge were cut off, suddenly and unannounced.
That’s clearly a bogus story. But was the governor lying, too?
GWB SCANDAL: FULL COVERAGE
Christie originally said that after checking with his staff, he determined that no one from his office was involved in these lane closings. He scoffed at the very idea that it was political retribution against the Fort Lee mayor for refusing to endorse Christie’s re-election, and joked that he had moved the traffic cones himself.
His attempts to laugh this off now appear to be dishonest, though we can’t yet be sure that he personally knew about the doings of one of his top aides. Either way, though, Christie bears responsibility. If it turns out he did know, he is obviously lying and unfit for office — let alone a 2016 presidential run.
And even if he did not, his officials are liars. If Christie can’t control them, how can we trust him as a potential future leader of our country?
These e-mails show that Christie’s deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, was directly involved in the planning of this massive gridlock and got periodic updates. She knew his executives at the Port Authority were ignoring the mayor’s frantic efforts to get a reason behind the lane closures, as emergency responders and school buses full of children got ensnared in the mess for up to four hours. This went on for four days.
Wildstein has been called to testify today about these e-mails, supplied in response to a subpoena, before a panel of state lawmakers. And given the e-mails’ explosive content, we’ll need subpoenas to hear Kelly’s testimony, too — as well as that of Christie’s chief of staff at the time, Kevin O’Dowd, and the chair of the state’s Republican Party, Bill Stepien, who is included in the exchanges.
The most damning evidence against Christie’s officials so far is their utter indifference to the consequences of this prank.
“Is it wrong that I’m smiling?” an unnamed text message to Wildstein reads, in response to the mayor’s distress that buses of children are trapped in traffic on the first day of the school year.
“No,” Wildstein wrote back.
 

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Hope it does destroy him. He's a liberal jackass wannabe tough guy fatass. Mentally retarded like you are
 

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The main thing is it appears he lied. He first blatantly denied the accusations even "scoffed" at them and then it all comes out. The people are tired of liars and Obama has set a new standard in that department in his tenure in the WH. Christie is not electable on a national level in my book. I am not a registered Republican but his speech at the Republican convention turned me off of him. Maybe he should change parties and run as a Democrat and they can use the pictures of him and Obama hugging as a campaign poster.
 

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Here, I'll show my non-partisanship. This is about as useless of a story as whether or not Obama said Benghazi was a terrorist attack or not.
 

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Here, I'll show my non-partisanship. This is about as useless of a story as whether or not Obama said Benghazi was a terrorist attack or not.

I don't know Aki. This is the type of story that buries Politicians. Either abuse of Power, or lack of control of your staff. It's what sunk Nixon. The pluses for Christie's survival is that it's very local, and is far enough away from 2016 that it might be forgotten by then. The minus is that Christie has no fans in the extreme Political media, and both extreme sides will push it to bury him. Both MSNBC and Fox News can't hide their glee because neither want to see a somewhat sane moderate succeed.
 

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Here, I'll show my non-partisanship. This is about as useless of a story as whether or not Obama said Benghazi was a terrorist attack or not.

Don't know ak. Not playing well for him. A national story that makes him look vindictive and petty at the expense of people. Not a huge scandal or anything like that but puts a chink in his armor that wasn't there before.
 

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funny i saw GWB scandal and thought he had something to do with "dubya"

i'm with schiff...anything that gets this guy off the GOP radar faster, the better

trivial story, at best, but that's what makes news these days....absolutely fine with this destroying Mr FEMA's white house ambitions
 

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I don't know Aki. This is the type of story that buries Politicians. Either abuse of Power, or lack of control of your staff. It's what sunk Nixon. The pluses for Christie's survival is that it's very local, and is far enough away from 2016 that it might be forgotten by then. The minus is that Christie has no fans in the extreme Political media, and both extreme sides will push it to bury him. Both MSNBC and Fox News can't hide their glee because neither want to see a somewhat sane moderate succeed.

I am a center-left voter and I see this as a politics as usual. You will see more of this going forward from the press. As far as scandals, this is a rounding error on the political scandal balance sheet. It is politics, nothing more, nothing less. If the press pursues this with vigor, you will start seeing moderate democrats shifting more to the center. It's insulting to the average American to portray this as a scandal.
 

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Don't know ak. Not playing well for him. A national story that makes him look vindictive and petty at the expense of people. Not a huge scandal or anything like that but puts a chink in his armor that wasn't there before.

Agreed. The Tea Party whack jobs are gonna clean his clock in the 2016 primaries: they'll bring up the pictures with the Evil O, the way he cost the citizens of New Jersey over 20 million for a special election of Booker just so he wouldn't have to run against the overflow of black voters who came out to vote for Booker, the pettiness and lying on the GW bridge fiasco, and, I suspect, most of all, what happened to billions of Sandy money that was given to him on the condition that 60% of it go to medium and low income families. That fat tub of good is cooked as much as the turkey he's gonna inhale this Thanksgiving.
 

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Whatever destroys him politically is fine with me.

Christie should be a Democrat.

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The main thing is it appears he lied. He first blatantly denied the accusations even "scoffed" at them and then it all comes out. .

Yep, he was a complete jackass to reporters inquiring about this and now it turns out to be true.

Since Christie is a complete jerk and believes in gun control and illegal immigration, I hope this buries any Presidential hopes. I wouldn't vote for him under any circumstances.
 

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It's insulting to the average American to portray this as a scandal.

It was "the average American" that was stuck in traffic (along with kids being late for school) because Christie Staffers got their jollies off by pushing little people around.
 

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Yep, he was a complete jackass to reporters inquiring about this and now it turns out to be true.

Since Christie is a complete jerk and believes in gun control and illegal immigration, I hope this buries any Presidential hopes. I wouldn't vote for him under any circumstances.

He has the best chance in the general but will probably not get past the primaries. Times have changed, time for R's to realize that this isn't the party it was 25 years ago.

This "scandal" is a nice distraction.
 

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I am a center-left voter and I see this as a politics as usual. You will see more of this going forward from the press. As far as scandals, this is a rounding error on the political scandal balance sheet. It is politics, nothing more, nothing less. If the press pursues this with vigor, you will start seeing moderate democrats shifting more to the center. It's insulting to the average American to portray this as a scandal.

It is isn't a scandal in my mind. Christie is one of the few repubs who tell the extreme in his own party to fuck off...it's why you see the usual wingnuts here bad mouthing christie
 

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I'm indifferent, at this point it appears he still retains plausible deniability. Since he holds himself out to be a different type of politician, this would certainly tarnish that narrative. It would be just more evidence that politicians just don't give a shit about people, that's just an illusion.

As for politicians lying and surviving, I would suggest that Obama and his staff have done far worse on numerous occasions. I would suggest he didn't throw people under the bus calling it a vast right wing conspiracy and trying to ruin a 20 year old intern's reputation and life, I would point out it's definitely not perjury given under oath when testifying in the court of law. But he does belong to the wrong party to survive this, he really didn't have much of a chance to begin with. I saw a Nixon reference, too funny. Watergate is hardly newsworthy by today's standards.

As for his politics, I agree with him at least 50% of the time, which has to be 45% better than Obama's numbers in my world. He tends to take on a very significant issue for me, low taxes and controlled spending
 

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Here is an example of why this story is important:

Emergency responders were delayed in attending to four medical situations – including one in which a 91-year-old woman lay unconscious – due to traffic gridlock caused by unannounced closures of access lanes to the George Washington Bridge, according to the head of the borough’s EMS department.

http://www.northjersey.com/fortlee/...esponse_in_Fort_Lee.html#sthash.HWunXtIJ.dpuf
 

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Well, to Christie's credit, he called the woman a liar and fired her. He's going to FT Lee today to apologize to the Mayor and people face-to-face.

Which is volumes more than Obama or Hillary! would ever do regading Benghazi.

Of course if Christie drove of the GWB with a woman in the car and let her drown, the Democrats would make him Senator for life (and entertain the idea of him running for President).
 

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Big Government inevitably screws up, then has to lie to cover its neolithic incompetence.
 

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