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When someone from Hawai‘i wins a million dollar jackpot in Las Vegas, they're treated like a hero by media, and especially the state Department of Taxation, who stand to gain a tidy sum.

But back in May of 2002, when a Hawai‘i Internet gambler known only as "Moosed" drew a royal flush in an online poker game, he became a hunted animal. Moosed never claimed his $176,688 winnings, and for good reason: Hawai‘i police and the Federal Bureau of Investigations, including international law enforcement, were ready to bag and book him.

What Moosed did was illegal, not just in Hawai‘i, but in every state in the union. Hawai‘i outlaws gambling in any form, whether you use the telephone, Internet or even in a friendly game at the local pub, if there's money involved. Even more daunting, people like Moosed face a federal rap because they typically do their gambling on Internet servers based overseas. Moosed gambled with InterCasino. com, an Internet site based in the Caribbean island nation of Dominica. It was a direct violation of the Federal Wire Act of 1961. The Wire Act was created to prevent organized betting operations from using telephones or electronic methods. Today, entrepreneurs say the Wire Act is outdated and that it hinders the growth of bandwidth-hungry Internet businesses.

But the advent of the Internet has made the Wire Act nearly impossible to enforce, say local law enforcement officials. Indeed, Moosed would have gotten away with it had InterCasino. com not sent press releases to local media who, in turned, snitched to police. If they hadn't, Moosed would have been mailed a fat check from the InterCasino. com accounting office in Toronto, Canada.

Nevada recently became the first state to directly challenge the Wire Act by legalizing online gambling for Nevadans playing on Nevada-based servers. The servers must remain within the state - where tax collectors can keep an eye on winnings. For Internet gambling entreprenuers, start-up costs alone could be prohibitive: Prices for Nevada online gaming licenses start at $500,000.

When Congress takes up the issue again, as it has for every year since 1999, it will have to deal with independent-minded states like Nevada and strike agreements with powerful brick-and-mortar casino lobbies in the 47 states where gambling is legal - most of whom don't want online gambling unless the federal law protects them from outside competition. Enforcing those laws, however, will be tough because the thousands of online gaming Internet sites are typically based outside the U.S., beyond the reach of American law enforcement. They can't take the servers and they can't arrest the owners.

What they can do, however, poses problems for Internet users everywhere, including here in Hawai‘i. For example, credit card companies are being pressed to report online casino payments, and Moosed's folly has put Hawai‘i law enforcement and the FBI on the alert. And the bureau is now utilizing the same electronic surveillance methods used to bust online kiddy pornographers and their customers, including monitoring Hawai‘i Internet service providers.

Hawai‘i residents love games of chance. And since they live in one of only three states to outlaw meat-space gambling, gaming on the Internet is a strong temptation, especially when even large, well-established Internet portals like Yahoo and Google allegedly accept advertisements from illegal Internet gambling sites.

They, along with others, were served with a class-action suit this summer in California Superior Court for allegedly allowing "pop-up" and banner ads from online casinos begging viewers to "click here." But don't do it, warn authorities: everything you type, every site you visit, can be tracked and the trail never disappears.
 

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Please readers don't pay any attention to this article. It is FULL of lies. Amazing people get jobs paying them to give misinformation like this. I say it is a dead mortal lock that the guy claimed his money and had the casino pay it. The book and the customer just aren't saying publicly he collected for obvious reasons. What an incredible dupe this writer is.

I wonder who told him Nevada challenged the falsely held notions of laws against online gambling? Nevada's delegation has been a strong backer so far of prohibition of online gambling, how could this guy think otherwise? Even more ridiculous is that a federal court's decision is the case law for now, pending appeals or new decisions, but the court said that the Wire Act only applies to sports betting...just as it states in the law from 1961. Further the writer just conveniently overlooks the fact that the bettor might have worries from state authorities, but the Wire Act doesn't make it crime to be the bettor.

Unbelievable that people are allowed to write s**t like this, one mistruth after another...
 

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He is also wrong in saying that NV actions challenge the wire act since the wire act requires information to cross state lines.
 

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What do you mean? What is not logical about turning down 200 G's for a possible $500 fine? :toothless
 

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When the news of this hit the papers here I just figured that Intercasino was just going for the publicity. At the time they said someone won , they had yet to identify the person, was going to wait till he contacts them for the check, or something like that. I knew that nobody would ever step up and claim it because it never happened. Aren't most of these internet "casinos" a rip-off? Why would they let anyone get a jackpot of $177,000? These places don't have anyone to regulate them like the Nevada Gaming Commision, just some kind of made up "gaming" commisions that probably only exist on paper.
 

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Word of mouth counts. The business is so good, why not pay out the occasional jackpot?

I am certain the guy contacted them and pointed out the "heat" he faced so the quietly paid him off. Like the cops were ever going to figure out who he was, total grandstanding on their part.
 

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WB is right that whole article is jam packed with lies. even that trail never dissapears crap. what do they think? that someone uses a server to save every single thing that ever happens on the internet?
 

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Well, I just have 3 more years before moving to Nevada. Before, I move will get a maggnet, a hammer and spend some time with my computer before depositing it in a junkyard somewhere. What a joy it will be, to be able to place a $50 or $100. wager and not have to worry about this TOTAL NONSENSE.

I may only live in a cheap apartment somewhere outside one of the major cities, but it will be WONDERFULL!!

I hope the Rx is still around and holding their annual get-togethers in Vegas. It will be fun to meet some of you good folks.:howdy:
 

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Whoson1st,

Last time I played at a Vegas sportsbook, back around 2001 or so, they didn't even have a money line on the Thursday night ESPN college football game. Of course I was on the strip at the MGM. Are there any sportsbooks in Vegas that offer first half lines, second half lines and money lines?

Thanks,
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Whoson1st-From what they've told me, 95% of bettors in Vegas still place 95% of their bets offshore.
 

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In a recent post by one of the mods here--it showed the Nevada sportsbook hold to be somewhere arond 5 to 6%. Don't recall the exact numbers. And yes--I'm sure a high % of Nevada players do play offshore as stated so often on this forum. (I would suppose for the MOST part; they are what is considered "professional", which is not my case.)

I don't know actually how many active posters there here. Have read reports across the street that a great # here are ghost posters or multiple post by the same person to give an appearance of lots of people. I suspect thetruth falls somewhere in the middle. If we could read some ACCURATE figures of US players that play regularily off-shore--the picture would become clearer. Problem is that is difficult to find out. Instead we read about some guy in Hawaii--etc etc etc.

If I REALLY wanted to play blackjack BADLY--damm I for one would driive or take the bus to Atlantic City. I don't give two hoots about online craps, blackjack roulette or other games of this nature. I enjoy Sports and that's the original reason for the Rx website.

I have no interest in living in AC or Mississippi or one of the states that has a boat to play table games, exclusively.
Horse racing is the one legal betting activity other than sports that interests me. Fact--Vegas will allways offer it . I don't know much other than that. It will allways be the Mecca for sports wagering in my lifetime in the US.

One other thought--why not have a seperate forum room for ANY gaming that is related to Table games or lottery winnings etc. Why put it in this forum.
 

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Whoson1st- I have to agree with you about Vegas. I love it. I gamble all the time when I'm there, but I never visit our riverboat casino, even though it's only 45 minutes away. Vegas will always be great to me. I also love how the sports wagering there is so normal and accepted. I've even seen a lot of women have $20 parlays just because it's part of the culture. It would seemingly be an ideal place to retire, that is unless I move there before.
 

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I think it is just journalism, meant to get opinions & stir debates. Seems like it did.
 

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