I browsed this Senate bill on senate.gov and I must say that it made me very angry. It makes me sick that the United States government is trying to babysit me by mandating what I can and can't do with the money I earn. It is my money! The hypocrisy of the Federal government and state governments is mind boggling. It is okay if I want to bet on dogs, lotteries, or horses but it is criminal to place 5 bucks on the Chicago Cubs. This is America and I resent Congress for attempting to become my financial planner. Basically this bill is an insult...Congress is saying that I am too stupid to decide what to do with my own money. Congress needs to wake up and realize that trying to stop gambling is impossible. Hell the only reason that the NFL exists is because of gambling. Why do you think people still watch a football game when the score is 28-0? Congress should legalize sports gambling, regulate it, and tax it. But I don't expect them to do such as it would make too much sense. The motto of Congress should be as follows, "If it makes sense...don't do it."
Good post JayBird.
Here's my take on the American Gov't and what's wrong with it. I think we have a GREAT system in tact, but the major problem is that the majority of the elected officials are Rich Old Men. Many of them have never worked a white collar job, much less a blue collar job ...
they are simply OUT OF TOUCH with the average American. What makes it worse is that elections are nothing more than commercialized smear campaigns nowdays, so the common man cannot put up much of a fight against the wealthy & their special-interest financed campaigns.
And no, I have absolutely no idea how to fix it .. i think we're stuck with this unacceptable cycle.
Here's my take on the American Gov't and what's wrong with it. I think we have a GREAT system in tact, but the major problem is that the majority of the elected officials are Rich Old Men. Many of them have never worked a white collar job, much less a blue collar job ...
they are simply OUT OF TOUCH with the average American. What makes it worse is that elections are nothing more than commercialized smear campaigns nowdays, so the common man cannot put up much of a fight against the wealthy & their special-interest financed campaigns.
And no, I have absolutely no idea how to fix it .. i think we're stuck with this unacceptable cycle.
It seems that governments allow you to play sucker games such as the lottery, dogs, and horses. They seldom allow types of gambling in which the player has a decent chance of winning. For example in my state, West Virginia, we have a dog track, keno machines, and slot machines. However they will not allow actual casinos with real people dealing cards. Gambling is gambling whether it be machines or real cards so the moral argument does not hold water. I don't understand why some states allow "machine" gambling but then throw a fit when someone suggests a casino. Instead of having machines deal cards why not employ actual people so that you can obtain job growth and give gamblers a decent chance of winning? Once again this would make too much sense.
The lottery is the biggest scam going. Studies have shown that the vast majority that buy these tickets are poor people. The sleazy politicians do nothing about that but pass laws against betting $10 on the super bowl. I always thought the anti-government groups were just hateful people. Now I want to join them.
all the government cares about is money, the only reason this bill is passing is not cause they think internet gambling is a big problem, or it aids under age gambling, it's simply because they don't get any money coming towards them from offshore books, where as they do from dog races and horse races. it is such bs for them to use those excuses to try and stop internet gambling. it's ok for some one underaged to bet on horses but not sports, come on. is there not at least a handfull of decent politicians who can see how stupid and unconstitutional this law is. why is there no lobbyist from the nfl or abc(monday night football ratings much higher cause people have money on the game, or all the networks who carry the superbowl) stepping in, they all know how huge gambling is for their tv ratings and there is a potential for huge money to be lost on their part. I don't know about u guys but i have not worked for 5 years and have made a great living off of the internet and the thoughts of getting a real job scares the piss out of me. let's keep our fingers crossed, cause i really don't feel like moving to canada.
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We all agree here, but maybe someone from Canada can give us the real lowdown on it. Is it ok in the entire country or just certain places like on Indian reservations. Funny, I allways thought "Peep" was from Canada and would shed more light on it. Come to find out-His name was not only NOT PEEP--But I'm not even sure where he was from.
We all agree here, but maybe someone from Canada can give us the real lowdown on it. Is it ok in the entire country or just certain places like on Indian reservations. Funny, I allways thought "Peep" was from Canada and would shed more light on it. Come to find out-His name was not only NOT PEEP--But I'm not even sure where he was from.
The usual refrain is "we don't want to look like Las Vegas". Please, like any place would resemble it if they did. How insulting as well, like Las Vegas is some scumbag place on earth while your state is so much better off. Gee last time I checked we had about 80,000 people a year leaving those "nice place for a family" and moving here. Its so ridiculous, but yes that argument gets made all the time. These supposed guardians never read any basic literature on the subject which would tell them that about 80% of the gambling addictions are related to machine-type gaming, about 10% to lottery gaming, and less than 3% from sports betting. I mean anyone that gambles much can figure that one out, but these people rarely are gamblers so even though they talk the talk, they certainly don't walk the walk. If I was in charge I would legalize everything but the machines and the lottery because the studies also show these are the games of the poor. After all if you are poor you are the one most likely to buy into the advertising of betting a buck and winning thousands or millions.
Where to Draw the Line: Wild Bill and Others.
Wild bill what both you wrote and the Shrink's statements -I think are very valid. Especially about going to jail etc. Hre is the point I have as a small time player who has generally lost. This year, I have deposited via Neteller approx. $1000. and have received approximately 3,000. (Dune by bank accts. Of course the year is not over) But are you suggesying that I do not claim the $2000 profit for taxes due to a possible state problem)? That's what would worry me and countless other small time players. Bank records!! I'm not a doom and gloomer, but a realist.
I think if the US government would simply make a seperate tax on offshore players we would be relieved. The fear of the unknown-but at the same time what is know or possible is the scary part. Yes I am a "square" but have plenty of company!
Wild bill what both you wrote and the Shrink's statements -I think are very valid. Especially about going to jail etc. Hre is the point I have as a small time player who has generally lost. This year, I have deposited via Neteller approx. $1000. and have received approximately 3,000. (Dune by bank accts. Of course the year is not over) But are you suggesying that I do not claim the $2000 profit for taxes due to a possible state problem)? That's what would worry me and countless other small time players. Bank records!! I'm not a doom and gloomer, but a realist.
I think if the US government would simply make a seperate tax on offshore players we would be relieved. The fear of the unknown-but at the same time what is know or possible is the scary part. Yes I am a "square" but have plenty of company!
All sports franchise and league executives and players have such high incomes BECAUSE sports are entertaining and gambling adds directly to the entertainment value.
Without gambling, TV ratings and income will drop like a rock.
In the event offshore gaming gets killed, I hope all the two faced league executive bottom feeders, athlets, their agents et al. get their lifesytles chopped as well.
Let us then see how happy these turkeys will be at that point.
Without gambling, TV ratings and income will drop like a rock.
In the event offshore gaming gets killed, I hope all the two faced league executive bottom feeders, athlets, their agents et al. get their lifesytles chopped as well.
Let us then see how happy these turkeys will be at that point.
oldmantime - I highly doubt the government would ever come after you for winning $2000. Think about what they would have to do first. They would have to spend countless hours putting together a case to fine you, collect taxes, etc. It just wouldn't be worth their time. If the number was $200,000, they may make a case for it but I still doubt it. The only way they would start getting involved with someone, like they did in N. Dakota earlier this year, is if they thing you are booking the business yourself.
Oldman As usual, politicans will do what is politically effective for them to get a vote without THINKING about the total consequences of what they are doing.
League officials must have the heads up their collective asses. Why do they think fans bother watching a 27 to 03 game, where the total is 34 with 5 to 10 minutes to go
League officials must have the heads up their collective asses. Why do they think fans bother watching a 27 to 03 game, where the total is 34 with 5 to 10 minutes to go
