Interesting convo I had with an ex-advertiser of the RX.

truthteller · Sep 24, 2003

The guy was telling me they pulled out because so many players that they got from the RX were a bunch of scammers.

Mainly opening several accounts in order to bonus whore.

He said it was a nightmare just trying to track all the IP addresses and it was just a waste of time and wasn't worth it. It wasn't they just pulled from the RX but post up entirely.

BTW, I am not blaming the RX in anyway since the RX was their primary source of marketing. It could have happened also on search engines, on other forums or other forms of advertising.

But overall, I think the posters here are more savy than the oridinary bettor.

So just beware of the people you meet on these forums and don't lend $$$ to them.

I guess Claude the Fraud isn't the only one up to scamming on this board

Fishhead · Sep 24, 2003

That is absolutely absurd!! A book would not want to advertise because they would draw the attention of to many players?? LMFAO!!!

I got news for this book. Any type of high end scammer allready knows about 99.6% of the books in existance in the world!!! They would not need to find out about them from the RX. Give me a break. What this book has essentilly done in reality is turn away hundreds of potential good customers.

Attracting to many scammers....pleeeeeeez!! LMFAO!

lander · Sep 24, 2003

como se dice 'STFU!' en espanol?

Dante · Sep 24, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>So just beware of the people you meet on these forums and don't lend $$$ to them <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

good advice in any venue

sickgambler · Sep 24, 2003

I ALREADY SAID OVER 346 TIMES HERE THAT THERE ARE OVER 200 POSTERS IN BOTH FORUMS COMBINED WHO HAVE MORE THAN 1 NAME, I WAS TOLD THIS BY BOOKS.

AND WHAT BUGGED ME MOST IS YOU ALL HAD THE NERVE TO CALL ME A SCAMMER. I DIDN'T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS CALLED ME. I LAUGHED AT THAT, BUT WHAT BUGGED ME IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD THINKING I WAS THE ONLY ONE DOING THIS. AND I ALWAYS GOT POINTED THE FINGER AT, AND ALL BECAUSE OF ONE EVIL PERSON WHO TRIED TO GET EVEN WITH ME..

WHO CARES, IT'S DONE ANYWAYS. AND I AM ONLY USING MY OWN REAL NAME AND THAT'S IT.. NO OTHERS. I DON'T NEED ANY...

Chadster · Sep 24, 2003

Very believable

Fishhead · Sep 24, 2003

Yes, it is believable for sure. That is the funny part.

Books should not set themselves up for scams. It is not the fault of a forum...GIVE ME A BREAK!!! I need to go for a walk, this is getting to me. This is a prime example of why some books fail, they are quick to blame their faults on outside things before cleaning up their own shop.

Fishhead · Sep 24, 2003

Ask the boys at Pinnacle if they are worried about NEW scammers learning about their book through this forum and others!!!! I need a cigarette and I dont even smoke. Brb.

killy · Sep 24, 2003

offer any kind of bonus and you will get your share of scammers from any site. This should be kept in mind when coming up with a promotion. Don't offer more than you can afford to give away...a hundred times over.

How about revealing who the book is?

lander · Sep 24, 2003

I'm guessing Homebets.

jwunderdog · Sep 24, 2003

Sick,

WHat kind of logic is that? I am not the only one doing it, so I shouldn't be viewed poorly!

That is a justification a child would use.

I guess since there are over 200 bank robbers in this world it is OK if I do the same?

sickgambler · Sep 24, 2003

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sickgambler · Sep 24, 2003

sickgambler · Sep 24, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by STRUT888/FISHHEAD:
Ask the boys at Pinnacle if they are worried about NEW scammers learning about their book through this forum and others!!!! I need a cigarette and I dont even smoke. Brb.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DITTO, I AM EXHAUSTED TOO, BUT INSTEAD OF A SMOKE, I WILL GO OUT FOR MY DAILY JOG, CAUSE IT REALLY DOES RELAX ME, AND RELIEVES STESS..

THE GENERAL WORE ME OUT TODAY...

SEE YOU LOSERS LATER..

sickgambler · Sep 24, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by jwunderdog:
Sick,

WHat kind of logic is that? I am not the only one doing it, so I shouldn't be viewed poorly!

That is a justification a child would use.

I guess since there are over 200 bank robbers in this world it is OK if I do the same?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

NO, BUT WHEN I AM THE ONLY ONE CONSTANTLY GETTING BASHED, IT IS RATHER FUNNY..

sds · Sep 24, 2003

Can I ask a STUPID Question here please?

Now I am not trying to be funny. I am also very new to offshore betting. The concept of a "bonus WHore", opening accounts with different books is rather hilarious to me. Here is why:

*How many books are 100% loyal to you alone and have your back in a manner of speaking.?

* If you go to eat at a restaurant and are given a 50% off coupon to do so, will you feel obligated to ONLY eat there from now on despite the neighbouring restaurant sending you a similar coupon?

* If you hold you mortgage at a BANK that gives you a reduced rate ,will you REFUSE to move it when another competitor offers you 1% lower and your present lender won't budge?

It may be a stupid analogy; however, business is business and I cannot see myself as a "Partner" with ANY of these books. They are here to TAKE MY MONEY and hope I LOSE EVERY bet. Simple. The day they front HALF of my money that I wager is the day I will be a faithful client.

My 2 cents.

sds

jwunderdog · Sep 24, 2003

Sick, I could give a ratsass what you did, just thought the logic was funny. Enjoy the Exercise I am about to do the same.

Seymour · Sep 24, 2003

I only have one name and it's the same at every book - the main reason why I never opened under another name is because I figured if the book found out I was scamming them they would take all my funds and tell me to eff off and I would have little recourse but it appears they let Claude scam them and did nothing so maybe I am the fool.

theswami · Sep 24, 2003

The decision by this "book" is suspect. I'm sure that there are tons of scammers here but it would seem to me that if you run a good business, you can make far more money on the honest players than you would lose on the dishonest players. With the right controls in place and the proper protections for you business a place like this could add significantly to your bottom line.

The only concern that the book should have is if this place is filled with too many sharps/semi sharps. If so, I could see profitability becoming a problem if the posters here are as good at picking winners as some would believe. Based on the results by TRK I would guess that the books can make plenty of money from Rx posters.

truthteller · Sep 24, 2003

Strut,

The guy wasn't blaming the RX for any of their problems.

He was just telling me how many scammers are out there on these forums and I guess in general.