I'm sorry, but Gary Payton is NOT a hall of famer.

[IDENTITY]

has he ever won anything? NO.

did he ever win anything in college (i know it doesnt matter for purposes of the HOF)? NO.

he ever go to the finals? DONT THINK SO (but maybe)

 

[TheGeneral+]

Im sure he can get a tv job after he is done.

 

[randyrohm]

Totally agree. His has to play his way in, and may yet, but he sux.

 

[IDENTITY]

yeah, cuz hes like c-bark.

 

gary is a cancer

 

[TheFunkMonkey]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IDENTITY:
has he ever won anything? NO.

did he ever win anything in college (i know it doesnt matter for purposes of the HOF)? NO.

he ever go to the finals? DONT THINK SO (but maybe)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Went to the Finals with Seattle. You don't remember the glory days of Shawn Kemp? Bulls beat them 4-2.

 

[TheFunkMonkey]

Nope, he isn't a Hall of Famer.

* Named All-NBA First-Team in 1998, 2000, All-NBA Second Team in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999 and All-NBA Third Team in 2001
* Selected to the NBA All-Defensive First Team eight consecutive seasons (1994-2001)
* Named Defensive Player of the Year in 1996 and was the first guard to win the award since Michael Jordan in 1987-88
* Selected to the NBA All-Star Team seven straight seasons (1994-98, 2000-01) and was voted as a starter in 1997 and 1998
* Member of the gold medal-winning 1996 and 2000 U.S. Men's Olympic Teams
* Scored his 15,000th career point vs. Philadelphia on 3/19/01, becoming the 88th player in league history to reach the milestone and just the eighth player in NBA history to compile 15,000 points, 6,000 assists and 1,000 steals.
* Played in the 1996 NBA Finals against the Chicago Bulls

 

[jimbutorac]

Going back to the title. "Is Gary Payton a Hall of Famer?"

Career-wise and stat-wise, I agree with Funk Monkey that he should make it. If I had to bet, I don't think he will. He is borderline Hall of Fame and what will hurt him are the following:

1. In his prime, he was not enough of a difference maker that he could get Sonics over the hump

2. He always seemed arrogant and petulant

3. If he finally wins a championship w/Lakers, he has basically been a non-contributor and in fact, has demonstrated his petulance even more during the playoffs.

If I had to bet, I don't think he'll get in.

 

[TheFunkMonkey]

I agree with #2 and #3.

As for #1, don't forget the "hump" was Jordan. Several players from Payton's era are gonna make the Hall Of Fame without a title...thanks to Jordan.

 

[winkyduck]

sorry - but the only thing to debate is if he will be a first ballot HOFer or not.

payton IS HOF worthy - and it really isn't something to debate. and he WILl get in, too.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Payton is one of the best defenders ever. His defense abilities alone would have me vote him in.

 

[SurfBoard]

identity is retarded

there is no question he is a hall of famer

 

[steeser]

What I have never been able to understand is the whole, "He's a hall of famer, but not first ballot..." thing.

What makes him more worthy a year later?? Either you are a hall of famer or you're not. I don't understand the whole middle ground thing.