Through the first 3-4 games Tampa Bay had turned the ball over 9 times.
Every single turnover was from Jameis Winston from Interceptions & fumbles.
Not one other player on offense turned it over at all...
I wish my friend, I wish...
guh:
Jameis Winston reportedly to be suspended multiple games to start the 2018 season
By John Breech 1h ago • 3 min read
The Buccaneers have one of the toughest opening stretches of any team in the NFL this season and it looks like things are about to get slightly tougher, because they're not going to have their starting quarterback.
According to ESPN.com, the NFL is planning to suspend Jameis Winston for the first three games of the season for violating the league's personal conduct policy. The looming suspension means that Winston would potentially miss games against New Orleans (away), Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. However, ESPN was careful to note that the circumstances surrounding the suspension "could lead to an increase or decrease of the three games." Also, ESPN noted that Winston has yet to be informed of the potential suspension.
Jameis Winston reportedly to be suspended multiple games to start the 2018 season
By John Breech 1h ago • 3 min read
The Buccaneers have one of the toughest opening stretches of any team in the NFL this season and it looks like things are about to get slightly tougher, because they're not going to have their starting quarterback.
According to ESPN.com, the NFL is planning to suspend Jameis Winston for the first three games of the season for violating the league's personal conduct policy. The looming suspension means that Winston would potentially miss games against New Orleans (away), Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. However, ESPN was careful to note that the circumstances surrounding the suspension "could lead to an increase or decrease of the three games." Also, ESPN noted that Winston has yet to be informed of the potential suspension.
I don't get why he is being suspended. I mean he is a star. He grabbed a women by the pussy. Literally. I thought that was legal now. WTF. I hated my team for drafted him in the first place and I still hate it. Guy has been average at best and has also been constant problems, which is fine if you're a DB not the QB
Jameis Winston Is a Major Bust, and the Bucs Must Move on from 2015 No. 1 Pick
BRENT SOBLESKI
OCTOBER 28, 2018
Jameis Winston should no longer be viewed as the future of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization.
The reason is simple: He's exactly the same quarterback today as the one who came out of Florida State when Tampa Bay selected him with the No. 1 pick in the 2015 draft.
Winston left the Seminoles program as an elite prospect with character red flags, the most serious of which was a rape allegation. While he served a three-game suspension for alleged sexual assault to start this season, his on-field performance has created cause for a concern as well.
The 2013 Heisman Trophy winner struggled with turnovers in college, especially due to an inability to see the entire defense. Nothing has changed over the subsequent three-plus seasons.
The following are the listed weaknesses from Winston's predraft profile by NFL.com analyst Lance Zierlein:
Decision making not consistent with his football intelligence. Will throw into impossible windows rather than taking safe throw underneath.
Elongated windup and release allows instinctive defenders to close on throws. Was too easily baited into dangerous throws. Struggled with intermediate passing game in 2014, completing 56.8 percent of his passes with FBS-leading 11 interceptions in that range. Still learning nuances of position and how to move and hold defenders with his eyes. Would sleepwalk through first half of many games. Inconsistent footwork and weight transfer caused balls to sail. Prone to emotional outbursts on field. Quality of decision-making drops off substantially when pocket becomes turbulent and he's forced to leave it. Lacks athleticism to extend plays for very long outside of the pocket. Off-the-field character and ability to lead on NFL level are his primary obstacles, according to NFL evaluators.
Sound familiar?
All of this—every single part—was on display during Sunday's 37-34 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals before Winston was benched for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
"I'm definitely the reason why we came up short," Winston said, per The Athletic's Greg Auman. "... I own that. I have to fix it. There's not much that I can really say, but I can't turn the ball over."
Decision-making not consistent with his football intelligence? Check.
Will throw into impossible windows rather than taking safe throw underneath? Check.
Was too easily baited into dangerous throws? Check.
Would sleepwalk through the first half of many games? Check.
Quality of decision-making drops off substantially when pocket becomes turbulent and he's forced to leave it? Check.
Lacks athleticism to extend plays for very long outside of the pocket? Check.
One isolated play doesn't capture any individual performance in its totality. However, Winston threw three more interceptions before being yanked—which only built upon a long-term track record, as ESPN's Trey Wingo noted:
Jameis Winston has played 48 games in his NFL career. He’s thrown 50 interceptions and fumbled 21 times. 48 games... 71 turnovers. He is what he is and if you expect it to change at this point.. that’s on you
Winston is a turnover machine, plain and simple. He's tied for the league lead with 10 interceptions despite having played in only four games. According to NFL Research, he's in one of the worst turnover stretches in the last 30 years:
Obviously, the Buccaneers chose to ignore these inadequacies. The franchise can't any longer, because the potential long-term investment at quarterback is far too significant.
Finding out Winston isn't the answer now is far better than it happening later in the process.
In April, Tampa Bay chose to pick up the quarterback's fifth-year option on his rookie contract at $20.9 million. General manager Jason Licht called the move a "no-brainer" at the time, per The Athletic's Greg Auman.
The no-brainer decision has turned into a Homer Simpson-like "D'oh" moment.
Winston's suspension stemmed from allegations of sexual assault against a Uber driver. Even so, the organization appeared ready to place its full support behind the quarterback upon his return.
Impending financial implications should have those in charge doing an about-face regarding all of their previous decisions.
Winston's fifth year becomes fully guaranteed if he's injured at any point this season. However, the team can release him without any cap implications this offseason if not. Right now, the best possible option is to demote Winston to third string and play out the final nine games with Ryan Fitzpatrick behind center.
It's not a bad plan considering how the 35-year-old signal-caller has played during stretches.
He came onto the field Sunday and led an 18-point comeback before the Bengals captured a victory courtesy of a last-second 44-yard Randy Bullock field goal. Fitzpatrick, who started the first three games, completed 11 of 15 passes for 194 yards and a pair of scores in just over a quarter of play.
Winston's ability to lead can still be questioned (check), while it's 100 percent clear the team responds differently with Fitzpatrick in the lineup.
Still, head coach Dirk Koetter wouldn't commit to either signal-caller after the contest.
"We don't need to talk about it [today]," Koetter said, per Auman. "I mean, today is not the day I have to decide that, right? We don't have to talk about that today.
"I don't have any problems making decisions, and I will make it when the time is right. Now is probably not the right time to make it."
The decision seems rather simple.
A veteran bridge is already in place. The organization can make re-signing the 14-year pro a priority this offseason, release Winston at no cost and draft a different long-term option during April's draft.
Right now, the Buccaneers are caught in NFL limbo—which occurs when an organization over-invests in mediocre talent at the game's most important position.
Winston isn't the answer. He never has been and never will be.
BRENT SOBLESKI
OCTOBER 28, 2018
Jameis Winston should no longer be viewed as the future of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization.
The reason is simple: He's exactly the same quarterback today as the one who came out of Florida State when Tampa Bay selected him with the No. 1 pick in the 2015 draft.
Winston left the Seminoles program as an elite prospect with character red flags, the most serious of which was a rape allegation. While he served a three-game suspension for alleged sexual assault to start this season, his on-field performance has created cause for a concern as well.
The 2013 Heisman Trophy winner struggled with turnovers in college, especially due to an inability to see the entire defense. Nothing has changed over the subsequent three-plus seasons.
The following are the listed weaknesses from Winston's predraft profile by NFL.com analyst Lance Zierlein:
Decision making not consistent with his football intelligence. Will throw into impossible windows rather than taking safe throw underneath.
Elongated windup and release allows instinctive defenders to close on throws. Was too easily baited into dangerous throws. Struggled with intermediate passing game in 2014, completing 56.8 percent of his passes with FBS-leading 11 interceptions in that range. Still learning nuances of position and how to move and hold defenders with his eyes. Would sleepwalk through first half of many games. Inconsistent footwork and weight transfer caused balls to sail. Prone to emotional outbursts on field. Quality of decision-making drops off substantially when pocket becomes turbulent and he's forced to leave it. Lacks athleticism to extend plays for very long outside of the pocket. Off-the-field character and ability to lead on NFL level are his primary obstacles, according to NFL evaluators.
Sound familiar?
All of this—every single part—was on display during Sunday's 37-34 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals before Winston was benched for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
"I'm definitely the reason why we came up short," Winston said, per The Athletic's Greg Auman. "... I own that. I have to fix it. There's not much that I can really say, but I can't turn the ball over."
Decision-making not consistent with his football intelligence? Check.
Will throw into impossible windows rather than taking safe throw underneath? Check.
Was too easily baited into dangerous throws? Check.
Would sleepwalk through the first half of many games? Check.
Quality of decision-making drops off substantially when pocket becomes turbulent and he's forced to leave it? Check.
Lacks athleticism to extend plays for very long outside of the pocket? Check.
One isolated play doesn't capture any individual performance in its totality. However, Winston threw three more interceptions before being yanked—which only built upon a long-term track record, as ESPN's Trey Wingo noted:
Jameis Winston has played 48 games in his NFL career. He’s thrown 50 interceptions and fumbled 21 times. 48 games... 71 turnovers. He is what he is and if you expect it to change at this point.. that’s on you
Winston is a turnover machine, plain and simple. He's tied for the league lead with 10 interceptions despite having played in only four games. According to NFL Research, he's in one of the worst turnover stretches in the last 30 years:
Obviously, the Buccaneers chose to ignore these inadequacies. The franchise can't any longer, because the potential long-term investment at quarterback is far too significant.
Finding out Winston isn't the answer now is far better than it happening later in the process.
In April, Tampa Bay chose to pick up the quarterback's fifth-year option on his rookie contract at $20.9 million. General manager Jason Licht called the move a "no-brainer" at the time, per The Athletic's Greg Auman.
The no-brainer decision has turned into a Homer Simpson-like "D'oh" moment.
Winston's suspension stemmed from allegations of sexual assault against a Uber driver. Even so, the organization appeared ready to place its full support behind the quarterback upon his return.
Impending financial implications should have those in charge doing an about-face regarding all of their previous decisions.
Winston's fifth year becomes fully guaranteed if he's injured at any point this season. However, the team can release him without any cap implications this offseason if not. Right now, the best possible option is to demote Winston to third string and play out the final nine games with Ryan Fitzpatrick behind center.
It's not a bad plan considering how the 35-year-old signal-caller has played during stretches.
He came onto the field Sunday and led an 18-point comeback before the Bengals captured a victory courtesy of a last-second 44-yard Randy Bullock field goal. Fitzpatrick, who started the first three games, completed 11 of 15 passes for 194 yards and a pair of scores in just over a quarter of play.
Winston's ability to lead can still be questioned (check), while it's 100 percent clear the team responds differently with Fitzpatrick in the lineup.
Still, head coach Dirk Koetter wouldn't commit to either signal-caller after the contest.
"We don't need to talk about it [today]," Koetter said, per Auman. "I mean, today is not the day I have to decide that, right? We don't have to talk about that today.
"I don't have any problems making decisions, and I will make it when the time is right. Now is probably not the right time to make it."
The decision seems rather simple.
A veteran bridge is already in place. The organization can make re-signing the 14-year pro a priority this offseason, release Winston at no cost and draft a different long-term option during April's draft.
Right now, the Buccaneers are caught in NFL limbo—which occurs when an organization over-invests in mediocre talent at the game's most important position.
Winston isn't the answer. He never has been and never will be.
The frustrating part about Jamis is the fact that all of his problems are 100% correctable .
Most QBs bust for other reasons then the reason JW is busting .
He actually can read a defense which is the reason most QBs bust .
And he can actually be accurate.
But the reason it looks like he’s not is for 2 very correctable reasons.
1 his footwork which causes throws to sail.
2 he takes too many chances believing too highly in his ability .
Both of these problems are easily correctable .
Someone like Payton could turn him into a star
Most QBs bust for other reasons then the reason JW is busting .
He actually can read a defense which is the reason most QBs bust .
And he can actually be accurate.
But the reason it looks like he’s not is for 2 very correctable reasons.
1 his footwork which causes throws to sail.
2 he takes too many chances believing too highly in his ability .
Both of these problems are easily correctable .
Someone like Payton could turn him into a star
Go Jameis
[FONT="]The Tampa Bay Buccaneers polarizing quarterback Jameis Winston is back starting under center. Winston replaced Ryan Fitzpatrick mid game and almost rallied the Buccaneers from a multi-touchdown deficit. Winston completed 12 of 16 for 199 yards with two touchdowns and a rating of 129.9 rating[/FONT]
[FONT="]The Tampa Bay Buccaneers polarizing quarterback Jameis Winston is back starting under center. Winston replaced Ryan Fitzpatrick mid game and almost rallied the Buccaneers from a multi-touchdown deficit. Winston completed 12 of 16 for 199 yards with two touchdowns and a rating of 129.9 rating[/FONT]
BY THE WAY, Brady has 6 total turnovers in 10 games. Now I'm not trying to say Winston should be as good as Brady but jesus christ, you can't win football games when your qb is turning it over more then 2 times a game. I mean for fuck sake shit ass Josh Allen only has 10 turnovers. Fucking Kyle Allen has 15 turnovers. Jimmy G has 14. I'm comparing Winston to just ok QB's and he's still way worse then any of them in the turnover department, which is a huge fucking deal imo.
