TCU has nobody to blame, but themselves...............That was an epic collapse they had against Baylor that should not have happened so they don't deserve to be in the playoff.....The wins against Kansas State and Oklahoma were at Home and both of them lost today which only hurts their case even more...........But yeah the Big 12 should be proactive and add a couple more teams immediately..........Ohio State has to be in the Top 4 now as they fully proved they are a good team even with a 3rd-String QB and Florida State has never lost with Winston at QB........Thus, I don't know how they could put TCU in the Top 4 after today.
If the committee drops TCU to 5 after a 55-3 win, it would be a shame. Personally, I don't see how you can move any of the 4 after this weekends games. Every team took care of business and FSU was the only one that had to sweat it out and they are 13-0, so how do they drop out? Ohio St was impressive, but had they not had that championship game in their conference what would the committee think of them with a 3rd string QB?
The system is flawed AGAIN! The NCAA will never get it right because of money and media coverage. Odds makers would be about the only ones that would get this right!
Makes me sick the way Politics has entered into sports. I used to watch sports as an escape from politics, now I watch politics to escape from the insanity of sports!
The system is flawed AGAIN! The NCAA will never get it right because of money and media coverage. Odds makers would be about the only ones that would get this right!
Makes me sick the way Politics has entered into sports. I used to watch sports as an escape from politics, now I watch politics to escape from the insanity of sports!
The problem with the B12 as a conference is that nobody in the conference beat anybody OOC who is currently ranked. Their best OOC win? TCU vs Minny at home?
Right now, OOC is the only way to compare conferences on the field and unless someone corrects me I think that is their best OOC win. The committee should take OOC wins as a conference into account when ranking conferences.
Right now, OOC is the only way to compare conferences on the field and unless someone corrects me I think that is their best OOC win. The committee should take OOC wins as a conference into account when ranking conferences.
a) not everyone in the SEC, PAC12, Big10 play each other like they do in the Big12. Big downfall when Wisky doesnt play any of the good teams (MSU, OSU) during regular season. Mizzou's schedule keeps them away from the top SEC West teams too. Big 12 you have to face everyone equally. Not much bias in the schedule like other conferences where you HAVE to have a conf champ game.
b) OSU lost to VT...AT HOME.....they went to OT with PENNST!...they struggled with Mich...Indy...both bad teams. They play in the 4th best conference while Big12 is 1st or 2nd......based on ESPN ratings
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/tag/_/name/conference-power-rankings
c) TCU has dominated most teams and their only loss is on the road to the #6 team.
so TCU...equally good offense and defense as OSU while playing in a better conference and having a better loss.
Yep, it's clear to me
The only way to compare conferences is OOC games and again, who has the B12 beat OOC to make them the best conference? The B12 has not beat an OOC team currently ranked in the top 25 so how good are they?
Their best OOC win is their highest ranked team beating an average B10 team at home, not exactly a selling point on how good the B12 is.
As for TCU vs OSU, I agree VT is a worse loss but who has TCU beaten? As of today, 11 of the 12 teams (OU will no longer be ranked after losing) TCU has beat are not even ranked. So if you beat a bunch of nonbodys but have a "good loss" that is what should get you in?
If you just look at the resumes for just this weekend, TCU's fall way short.. They played and beat Iowa St... that doesn't count for anything compared to the other results this weekend....If TCU wants to blame someone, blame the Big 12 Conference.. If you're trying to get into a very competitive final 4 playoff the last thing you want is a game against a bad team..All teams trying to get in should be in a game of high caliber or a championship game..
No it counts but wins also count and who has TCU beat or the B12 beat OOC? Shouldn't make the playoffs for beating a bunch of average teams. When your biggest win is KSU at home and you do not play a championship game you should probably not go the playoffs unless you are undefeated. All of the other teams competing have much bigger wins on their resume.
TCU is essentially Michigan State if MSU had traditionally played and beat Notre Dame this year. Would have both had the same record, beat nobody and both lost to a top-10 team in their conference and both should not be in the playoffs.
The Big 12 may learn it's lesson today. Their "co-champs" (unless neither is picked. Then the chicken s**t Big 12 will name Baylor it's CC) won 11 games each. Florida State won 13. Alabama, Ohio State, and Oregon won 12. Game, set and match. No Big 12 team deserves to be in the playoffs. Either the Big 12 wakes up and smells the coffee or they can look forward to this happening again and again.
I think Osborne will be as affiliate-less as any human can be. Exhibit A: in 1990 his team played and lost to both Gtech and Colorado (that eventually split). He put Gtech ahead of Colorado on his poll...he may have had Colorado lower than 2nd, can't remember that detail.... Buff fans probably do. Anyway, I think the vote was that close that it mattered.
Minny is is average at best and wow, TCU, way to go out on a limb and schedule Minny who has not won a B10 title since 1967. Let's all be honest, TCU is lucky Minny did better than average this year to help their cause. It is not like they scheduled a traditional B10 powerhouse like OSU, MSU, Nebraska or Wiscy.
I'll say this...Ohio St has benefited from a very down big 10. The showing by Wisky last night was embarrassing. They were exposed for being a very 1 dimensional team. As for Ohio St, they benefited the very bad big10. I personally don't think they deserve to be in. Living here in Texas, the Baylor PR machine started right after the game last night and into this morning....
1) We schedule our schedule 7 years ago
2) Well we beat TCU head to head
I'm sick of all of it. I think TCU has been pretty dominant all year long. Personally, I think both TCU and Baylor should be in over Ohio St and Florida St. I thoughts though is that Ohio St moves to #3 and meets Oregon in the Rose Bowl to make the Rose Bowl folks happy. FSU stays at #4 and makes the Sugar Bowl folks happy. Big 12 will be looking to probably cry about it and look to take some type of action.
1) We schedule our schedule 7 years ago
2) Well we beat TCU head to head
I'm sick of all of it. I think TCU has been pretty dominant all year long. Personally, I think both TCU and Baylor should be in over Ohio St and Florida St. I thoughts though is that Ohio St moves to #3 and meets Oregon in the Rose Bowl to make the Rose Bowl folks happy. FSU stays at #4 and makes the Sugar Bowl folks happy. Big 12 will be looking to probably cry about it and look to take some type of action.
Only other thing I will say and I honestly believe this with respect to TCU and or Baylor...If the teams in question were Texas or Oklahoma, this would not even be debated. Both Texas or Oklahoma would be in because of the "swagger" carried by their program names. If this is the case, then the committee is a farce.
