I think the posters on here who are calling Manning the best ever are probably the under 40 set who hasn't seen the "other generation" of pro football players play. You know, the generation who didn't have the plays coming in through their helmets.
Bart Starr won 3 NFL Championships before the inception of the Super Bowl.
He then went on to win the first two Super Bowls, for a total of five NFL Championships.
Well, they are significant, but I agree with your point.
Rings are the most overated stat when comparing the best QB's of all time in my opinion.
People fail to realize that 52 other people make up NFL rosters. Although the QB position might be the most valuable of all, too many other factors can cause a QB to never reach championship status. Despite how good they might be.
agreed...as far as overall, arm, strength, mental acuity, he is the total package.....if he was mobile at all it wouldnt even be close, that is his ONLY fault...