If I am Oregon I'd do this ASAP for recruiting

[WinOne]

Oregon can be physical on Offense, their defense couldn't win a pillow fight, which i don't get. Outside of the So Cal schools and Stanford, they are the one program in the conference that has a National Brand Name.
Go to Texas, La, Miss, Ohio, Ga, AL and recruit some big kids to play defense. Stanford does it and they have a one of the highest academic standard to meet to get kids into school. With all that Oregon has to offer, why the hell cant they do it. With the $$$ that Oregon/Nike has, I'd get a recruiter on staff and place him in Texas to recruit Tex/La/Miss. Pay the guy $250K and it'll be the best investment they could make.
I'm not saying do anything illegal, but if they dont make an investment in getting Big Kids to play defense they are going to become irrelevant in a few years. I live here in the DFW area, and there are so many kids not only in the area, but the state of Texas. Texas puts more kids into D1 schools ever year than just about any other state because we have so many schools. Ask Oklahoma, do you think Switzer did all that winning with kids from Oklahoma? With all the flash that Oregon has, if they put effort into it, they'd be able to come and get there fair share of kids to go play out there. Especially while UTexas is down. Now is the time to come in and win some of those battles.
I played golf with my buddy who coaches at Allen HS and he mentioned that Cal coach Dykes and one of his guys came over to visit with with them. Apparently while Dykes (who is a Texan) was in Ft Worth for their bowl game he invited several HS coaches that he knew from the area over to meet with his staff. Sounds like Cal is going to try to ramp up their efforts in Texas, I would suggest Oregon take note.

 

[GoSooners]

We can talk about recruiting all day, but Oregon has been pretty close to Oklahoma in recruiting for the last 5 years. I think the Ducks are doing the best they possibly can do being a far northwest outpost school. I've just never been high on Helfrich as a head coach. There were no excuses for what happened last night despite UO losing Adams. Every UO coach should be fired from that staff. They never did one thing to halt TCU's momentum. It's as simple that. They just left their tired defense out there over and over while they had TO's, and also played a prevent nothing defense the whole 2nd half, while throwing the damn ball in the second half. Unbelievable really!

 

[Conan]

On their last offensive series in the 4th Q, the Ducks still with a 3 pt lead with the game clock winding down, Royce (9 ypc) Freeman sat on the bench as Oregon's QB could do nothing. Not hardly a single first down. That's all they needed-- one lousy 1st down and the game would have been over.

 

[ChrisParadise]

They tried recruiting nationally and got caught which is why Kelly left in the first place. Google Willie Lyles.

Perhaps when your defense sucks you shouldn't run hurry up offense. Perhaps you should play backup qb more to be ready for this. Instead they wanna act like a kid and run up scores and stats in 4th quarter of blowouts

Immature program literally

 

[GoSooners]

On their last offensive series in the 4th Q, the Ducks still with a 3 pt lead with the game clock winding down, Royce (9 ypc) Freeman sat on the bench as Oregon's QB could do nothing. Not hardly a single first down. That's all they needed-- one lousy 1st down and the game would have been over.

Conan, doesn't Oregon have a mobile 3rd string QB? They could have ran that clock out if they chose to, instead of putting pressure on their QB by trying to pass, and at the same time just trying to get the Center/QB exchange right. Helfrich put the game too much on his backup QB's shoulders.

 

[REDEYE]

They tried recruiting nationally and got caught which is why Kelly left in the first place. Google Willie Lyles.

Perhaps when your defense sucks you shouldn't run hurry up offense. Perhaps you should play backup qb more to be ready for this. Instead they wanna act like a kid and run up scores and stats in 4th quarter of blowouts

Immature program literally

you must still be sore with us running it up on the Vols

 

[Wanger]

They tried recruiting nationally and got caught which is why Kelly left in the first place. Google Willie Lyles.

Funny you don't mention the other schools that used his service but never received any penalties, you only mention Oregon who was penalized for using his service. Your act is old.

 

[sendacash]

You can't really play defense with those big fat type of d-line when you run such an up-tempo offense. This is more like playing fast break basketball, then a low post game. Not sure you can have both with the up-tempo offense.

 

[GoSooners]

You can't really play defense with those big fat type of d-line when you run such an up-tempo offense. This is more like playing fast break basketball, then a low post game. Not sure you can have both with the up-tempo offense.

And also when teams like Oregon lose their starting QB, it completely throws their rhythm off. The Ducks have a great scheme, but when it revolves around the QB that much, it can look really bad when he goes down. As we saw earlier in the season after Adams got hurt and they lost at by 40 points to Utah and WSU at home. I still think Chip Kelly would have had a better answer for their QB problems than Helfrich, who seems pretty slow on the draw when it comes to making adjustments.

 

[ChrisParadise]

Funny you don't mention the other schools that used his service but never received any penalties, you only mention Oregon who was penalized for using his service. Your act is old.

1) the topic is Oregon

2)Oregon ,as you just said,is the only program that used his services improperly

My post couldn't be anymore directly relevant. Yours in typical head in sand defensive rubbish. What don't you understand?

 

[Addicted2quack]

This is directed at EVERYONE, especially Chris paradise:

Here's the funny thing....Pete Carroll did some very shady stuff at USC an extremely high profile university with more tradition than Oregon and now no one talks about those incidents....why not

Oregon got caught doing the SAME things other schools were clearly doing which was using a loophole to recruit players, but they get investigated..... Why? Probably because Oregon said "your services are horseshit and we aren't paying you.... So the dude got mad and turned them in and burned the rest of his paper trail to the likely 25+ other universities he had "contracts" with...

What other schools were heavily investigated for their alleged involvement in that recruiting service allegation.... None other than Oregon....

to put oregon on blast is laughable, they are doing the same thing EVERY other school does.... There was an article published a year or two ago (maybe more, forgive me) about "bagmen", not sure what it was titled, but their inside knowledge on the recruiting 'warfare' as they called it, was One of the GREATEST sports articles I've ever read, bar none... Multiple 'bagmen' were interviewed and protected by annonimity and claimed that the world of college sports is one of the dirtiest industries present today. It's nothing but large sums of money being exchanged daily from boosters and benefactors to recruits, families of recruits and school officials.... The article went in depth stating how the process started directly in SEC territory and then expanded from coast to coast as the sec began dominating college football. These guys are paid to deliver bribe money to anyone and everyone sometimes as much as 50,000$ at a time in cash. We've already seen in the last few years recruits "accidentally" posting pictures on Twitter of thousands of dollars in 100$ bills in their hand, only to be immediately deleted and the account completely deactivated moments later.... These recruits then say "they were hacked" and the pictures weren't real... Yeah sure, and I'm assuming you made that 3k by working a paper route, or your moms job at the grocery store is really taking off and she's living the high life. These guys come from traditionally struggling families, no matter their race, so when money is being thrown at you you take it when u can because you don't know how much more of it you'll be able to get your hands on..... Gurley and Manziel got paid to sign autographs, etc etc, the lists go on for years..... Oregon gets caught ONE time using a recruiting service and everyone flips shit...

i guarantee rich sec boosters and Texas alum alike are constantly shelling out hundreds of thousands a year in straight cash or impermissible benefits to recruits everywhere in an attempt to gain an edge somewhere. Football is a huge money making business. Former Oregon TE colt lyerla accused the Oregon football program of promising him a house and cars to sign with the ducks lol....hard to believe him considering he's a Coke head, but then again, where's he getting the money to buy cocaine?? That's shit ain't cheap homie...

i wonder what bo Jackson got? How about how much fournette got to stay in Louisiana and not go to bama, 100k??? 500k ??? What's he worth?? What about Henry, dude just won the heisman, think his family doesn't have someone making some 'visits' to his parents house with a special delivery lol..."thanks for choosing Alabama", sincerely, your dear uncle Benjamin franklin. These rap sheets are all hidden from the media with the greatest discretion because if word got out about the true behind the scenes college football people would freak out.... Don't act like Oregon is the only university Chris, that's ludicrous. Louisville basketball just got popped, so did Syracuse basketball.... Those are highly esteemed coaches too...you think Tennessee coming out of the cellar in the sec east is fate?? LOLOLOLOL !! They got butch jones and they dudes behind the scenes now delivering cheddar to recruits just like everyone else...they just haven't got caught, so good for them on being able to keep their dirty laundry out of sight and smell.

my my point is this: these fraudulent acts occur everywhere at every major university because football generates hundreds of millions in revenue, so these players are literally getting free educations and getting paid under the table.... Go dig up their backyard and I bet you find a thousands of dollars lol.... Check their dorm room and I'm positive you will find a couple thousand dollars stashed away in a 'textbook'.... Or next to those brand new Jordan's that run 350$......

iif you can get your hands on that article read it! It's long as hell but it's the most informative thing you'll read in quite some time. Truly eye opening

 

[ChrisParadise]

You lost me at "no one says anything about Pete Carroll"

Ummm..they vacated a BCS title ,lost a shit ton of schollies,and still haven't recovered.

Maybe to you,in your Oregon centered universe,it seems people pick on the Ducks for cheating but truth is the average fan knows nothing about Oregons cheating but does know something about USC AND Reggie Bush.

But yes,cheating goes on everywhere. I know this first hand. My Vols cheat. Don't care.

Oregon fails at cheating, that's exactly what I said from the start....They tried,they failed.

 

[Wanger]

1) the topic is Oregon

2)Oregon ,as you just said,is the only program that used his services improperly

My post couldn't be anymore directly relevant. Yours in typical head in sand defensive rubbish. What don't you understand?

Tennessee and the NCAA recently reached an agreement via summary disposition that ended with probation and recruiting limitations for the program. In that case, a Tennessee assistant coach wired Lyles $1,500.

I didn't say Oregon was the only school, like always you twist peoples posts to suit your needs.

It's amazing how you only post things to suit your needs while you leave out things that prove you're here simply to bash.

It's been years since Oregon drilled Tennessee not once but twice so I think it's time for you to get over it like a grown man but anyone can see you keep acting like a pimple faced teenager.

 

[razorbackpicks]

We have seen it time and time again, when will people realize. The HUNH offensive styles (Malzahn, Kelly/Oregon, Sumlin, Kingsburry, etc.) when they speed it up the defense loses.

You've seen what a couple of the best D cordinators can do in the HUNH offense with good talent this year. Muschamp at Auburn and Chavis at A&M and both did not do as hot as they have previously in different systems, and they had good talent.

 

[Addicted2quack]

We have seen it time and time again, when will people realize. The HUNH offensive styles (Malzahn, Kelly/Oregon, Sumlin, Kingsburry, etc.) when they speed it up the defense loses.

You've seen what a couple of the best D cordinators can do in the HUNH offense with good talent this year. Muschamp at Auburn and Chavis at A&M and both did not do as hot as they have previously in different systems, and they had good talent.

Good points

 

[WinOne]

This is directed at EVERYONE, especially Chris paradise:

Here's the funny thing....Pete Carroll did some very shady stuff at USC an extremely high profile university with more tradition than Oregon and now no one talks about those incidents....why not

....fyi, Other than the Bush step dad thing and that is now under investigation as judges in the Todd McNair case said the NCAA basically made up $hit against the coach and USC, USC was guilty of having famous alums and celebrities on the sideline and attending their practices. NCAA did not have anything on anyone in the program, other than the Bush Step Dad living rent free. They even took the word of an ex con, who by the way, later recanted and even told the NCAA that he did not say what they attibuted to him.
I'm no SC fan, I'm a SunDevil alum and former player but I hate to see anyone get railroaded. I thought Oregon got a bad deal in the Lyles recruiting issues just as I thought SC got a bad deal. But I'm anti-NCAA in just about everything

 

[WinOne]

We have seen it time and time again, when will people realize. The HUNH offensive styles (Malzahn, Kelly/Oregon, Sumlin, Kingsburry, etc.) when they speed it up the defense loses.

You've seen what a couple of the best D cordinators can do in the HUNH offense with good talent this year. Muschamp at Auburn and Chavis at A&M and both did not do as hot as they have previously in different systems, and they had good talent.

While true, I honestly think the problem is two-fold. Some of these HUNH offenses don't know how to milk a lead, even those that are run oriented. Often exposing their defenses. Secondly, I would do what we did at ASU when I was there years ago (mid 80's HC Darryl Rodgers and later John Cooper who took us to the Rose Bowl in '86). Under coach Cooper, our scout team had our quality control and a GA as our coach and we learned each opposing teams offense and ran it full bore against our first team defense. I don't think college teams do as much of this anymore. There were not the HUNH offenses, but I do remember running the veer and run & shoot against our defense and lighting them up for 3 straight days of practice. We gave our defense really good looks and it helped them come saturday. I think sometimes these offensive HC's don't do enough of this with their defense.

 

[ParlaysStoleMyMoney]

We have seen it time and time again, when will people realize. The HUNH offensive styles (Malzahn, Kelly/Oregon, Sumlin, Kingsburry, etc.) when they speed it up the defense loses.

You've seen what a couple of the best D cordinators can do in the HUNH offense with good talent this year. Muschamp at Auburn and Chavis at A&M and both did not do as hot as they have previously in different systems, and they had good talent.

I don't think it has anything to with the defense "losing". It has to do with the other offense getting a ton of more plays, so naturally they are going to turn that into more points. The trade off is this, how much more points does running the HUNH offense produce, than it causes the defense to give up.

Look at TCU. Probably had the best defense in the league the first two years in the big 12, and went 7-5 and 4-8. The third year (the year we switched offensive philosophies), we went 12-1 with a high flying offense. The defense gave up more points, but to anybody that watched, that defense was pretty damn good outside of the one game to Baylor.

Just think of it this way. You are playing me one game, and I allow you to run 50 plays. The very next game I allow you to run 90. Same players, same everything. Which game do you expect to score more points in? More than likely the latter. Did the defense get worse?

 

[tulah]

Just don't get caught cheating. It's the 1 and only rule ...don't get caught. Recruiting is as crooked as the mafia.
ive got a long time friend (no names)who played hoops for Maryland. He was recruiting by some of the big boys like
Indiana, NC St , Cuse & Wake Forest . He told me he got paid. Not enough to go buy a new benz , but enough to buy more then a few of the $350 Jordan's and Beats by Dre Headphones. Are they still called that ?.
I will give an A+ for effort. After all if your not cheating, your not trying.

 

[GoSooners]

Just don't get caught cheating. It's the 1 and only rule ...don't get caught.

They may have to go to SEC boot camp for that...