If Brady was out...What is the line with NE/Jax?

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If they had jimmy g the line would not even move if Brady got hurt
 

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I don't think every time Brady is out the line would move 11pts, but in this particular instance I think it would. I think JVille would be like -2.5 assuming Brady got hurt in practice or 4th Q vs Tenn. Once you cross 0 those pts don't matter as much anyway.

Rodgers 1st game out this year, GB went from like -6 to +4.5 without him
 

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If Brady when out and garrapolo was still there the like would be pats -13.5
 

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If Brady got hurt today from some freak accident & Jimmy G. was the back up.....The line would stay the same -9

Now for Brian Hoyer....It would be a disaster....lol
 
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Since when does Jimmy G = Tom Brady?

Not meaning to insult anyone but you guys are soft. The line with Jimmy G would be Pats -2'. Three at most.

With Hoyer, Pats -1/2.

Equating Jimmy G and Brady is just nuts.
 

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if Hoyer was QB for pats... id take pats at home -3 or less for my soul lol

you're greatly underestimating their HOF coaching staff.

Pats D is no steelers D...Steelers D was severely overrated the majority of the season. At the very least, overrated when Shazier went down. He was the best player on the D as well the QB of the D...

Pats ML with Brady Vs Jax this week wins 95/100
 

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Stop Crying ... Nobody said the Jags are a Better Team or that the Wrong Team is favorite !

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who's crying? I'm laughing, and embellishing just a tad

and if Brady was hurt, the Jaqs would be favored

they're obviously too talented and too physical for the Pats, without Brady and the refs, this game is a blowout
 

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Since when does Jimmy G = Tom Brady?

Not meaning to insult anyone but you guys are soft. The line with Jimmy G would be Pats -2'. Three at most.

With Hoyer, Pats -1/2.

Equating Jimmy G and Brady is just nuts.

Equating Jimmy with Brady may be nuts but your basically equating Jimmy with Hoyer by saying the lines would be similar regardless of which 1 of them is at the helm.

I think NE with Jimmy would be like 5.5 to 6.

I guess this is the stuff we have to talk about when the F’ing Jags are in the AFCCG. Damn pitt...
 
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Equating Jimmy with Brady may be nuts but your basically equating Jimmy with Hoyer by saying the lines would be similar regardless of which 1 of them is at the helm.

I think NE with Jimmy would be like 5.5 to 6.

I guess this is the stuff we have to talk about when the F’ing Jags are in the AFCCG. Damn pitt...

Brady implements Bellichick's plan to a T. Brady is not just a great QB because he throws for a lot of yards and TDs. He is great because he knows how to read Defenses when he stands over the center. He is great because he knows how to step up in the pocket and remain focused downfield. He is great because he rarely turns the ball over, either by way of fumble or interception. He is great because he understands and can implement time (clock) management. He is great because under late game pressure he can keep his cool and move the team down the field to get a game deciding score consistently on as little time as anyone in the game. He is great because he "commands" the huddle. He is great because his teammates believe in him and try to play to his exceptional standards. And lastly he is great because he has proven all of this over and over again. Anyone want to add to the list?

And you guys don't want to make him 6 or 7 points better than a guy who has 5 NFL starts, none in the Playoffs?

And don't forget all this stuff when you are handicapping this game, this week, and again in the SB.
 
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Oh yea. I'll add one more to my list. He is great because he starts and finishes EVERY game. There is only one exception to that in 17 years.
 

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All I know is if its pats/vikes in superbowl...give me minny +3.5 for $$$$
 

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So if he is all those things, why would he only be 7pts better than Hoyer?

Unless you think Hoyer/Jimmy are of similar caliber? Don’t really get that part.

Brady >>> Jimmy >>> Hoyer seems like pretty simple way to rank it.
 
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I had Hoyer as a 1/2 point fav. Jimmy G at 2', max 3. Not the same but, yes, close. For all the hype, Jimmy G really hasn't proven much. He has certainly proven none of those things I listed for Brady.
 

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As a fan, seeing a team play on their own field is something I've always wanted to see. I wonder how this would effect the line?
 

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As a fan, seeing a team play on their own field is something I've always wanted to see. I wonder how this would effect the line?

I assume you are talking about the Vikings? According to the advanced lines, they will be priced pretty close to as if they are at home but not 100% fully a home game.
 

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I had Hoyer as a 1/2 point fav. Jimmy G at 2', max 3. Not the same but, yes, close. For all the hype, Jimmy G really hasn't proven much. He has certainly proven none of those things I listed for Brady.

It may be a small sample size but Jimmy and Hoyer did play for the exact same team this year and the results were drastically different. That alone probably speaks to the fact there is more than a 1 point gap in the spread between them.

I can only speak for myself but if NE was only like -4 or -4.5 or less with Jimmy at QB vs JVille, I would want to bet them. I think he would be good enough to get NE in a game flow positive situation where they have a lead, can run the ball, Jville pass rush can't peal back and JVille has to throw the ball. With the Jags, so much of it just comes down to how the game is played since they are so 1 dimensional. If it's close or they have a lead, they're built to play like that. If they get behind and have to throw and have to stop the run consistently, they aren't built to play like that.

So he might not be Brady but I do think he'd be able to put NE in a spot where they can still do a lot of what they wanna do, thus why i said around 5.5ish. Maybe it would be a little lower like -4.5ish but I'd like NE there like I said.

And if NE was only -2 or -3 with Jimmy at QB vs Jville I feel like that would be a spot I'd backup the truck.
 

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i.e if they play the Jags they would be -5.5, if it was a home game and not the superbowl, it would be -6 or -6.5.

If they played the Pats at home in the regular season, Pats might be -2.5. In the SB they might be -3ish.

It's pretty damn close to a home game but not fully a home game since you got rich people, tourists , casual fans and some fans of the other team in attendance.
 

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i.e if they play the Jags they would be -5.5, if it was a home game and not the superbowl, it would be -6 or -6.5.

If they played the Pats at home in the regular season, Pats might be -2.5. In the SB they might be -3ish.

It's pretty damn close to a home game but not fully a home game since you got rich people, tourists , casual fans and some fans of the other team in attendance.

If Vikes make the super bowl, I think its going to be 90+% PURPLE.

This is something that we have not seen in history and I'd expect it to be EVERY bit of a home field advantage for Vikes, IMO.
 

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