If Anyone Gets Stiffed By Gamblers Avenue...

[WillieCicci]

I will feel like shitt... I know, not as bad as the ones losing their $$$.

I heard from my Local, an agent with several CR Books, that GA was hurting for cash in the 2nd week of the NFL.

I contacted Ken & McIrish about this...

They said they would look into it and keep on the lookout. I AM NOT BLAMING KEN OR PAT. But I should've posted the info when I heard it and let the chips fall where they may.

I did not post it because I never could get a 2nd verification and I felt like Fredd would do all that was humanly possible (I still believe he would/did) to right the ship.

FF

 

[Halifax]

WOW.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Wow is right

 

[happyday]

Mcirish,
if this is true, you got some nerve. You jump on me for posting how i get screwed by wwts meanwhile you knew something was awry with the scumbag fredd and withold it? hippocrite! Reminds me of just the same bullshit russ was pulling while mark dell was making his travel plans.unreal.........

 

[blueedwards]

fat frank?

 

[Journeyman]

Yes it is FF...

 

[happyday]

me?? sorry boys, i am not him. I am not fat nor is my name frank

 

[TheOldBallgame]

happyday: not you. Fat Frank is Willi Cicci.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

That is true from what I remember as well. Frank (Willie Cicci) said he heard from a source there was problems or could be problems with GA. I immediately asked him to try and put us in touch with the source, even offered to do a 3 way with us all. After this went on I BELIEVE Frank and Ken did speak about it more, I even asked later if he followed up as I was working mostly the graveyard shift at the time. I was told he did, maybe even the source got involved though I don't recall for sure. After further review I was told they felt it was not sound enough to post at that time. I did what I always do, make damn sure Shrink is aware of it and if the source wants to discuss it make it so they can get together.

The flip side of this in the RX's defense is we have heard stuff about probably every single book we have. Seriously. Ask Russ and I would bet he has heard stuff about every advertiser he has as well. It's tough because you have got to substantiate things and have someone come forward with more than "we hear things are bad". If we did that we wouldn't have a book up top. In fact when we took Royal down we got criticized for having an agenda there and was told they probably weren't gong to renew is the real reason we took them down. Not because we were worried about the players. EWinner is much the same. In that situation we had a contact DEEPLY involved with their finances and banking willing to tell us stuff that no one else could know. It was impossible for us to just ignore so we took action. When the RX decided to act in that case we still to this day are getting criticized about taking them down. who knows in these cases what is right and/or wrong? Tough to win but yes obviously anytime a book goes down you wish things had went down differently.

By the way at any time Frank could have posted to this forum as well his concerns. He was not banned nowhere near the time this went down. The RX like MW and anyone else will take their punishment but let's not fool ourselves, why would Frank not post to it then? He has busted our balls a million times out here so you have to ask yourself why on an issue like this wouldn't he have posted to it if he felt strongly? That's why when he spoke with Ken and they felt it was okay then I too let the issue drop. As I say, tough business but it is the one we have chosen.

 

[nets2k2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> By the way at any time Frank could have posted to this forum as well his concerns. he was not banned nowhere near the time this went down. The RX like MW and anyone else will take their punishment but let's not fool ourselves, why would Frank not post to it then? He has busted our balls a million times out here so you have to ask yourself why on an issue like this wouldn't he have posted to it if he felt strongly? That's why when he spoke with Ken and they felt it was okay then I too let the issue drop. As I say, tough business but it is the one we have chosen.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


PATRICK WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO KIDD???? Anytime someone posts the truth here that affects the Rx or one its current advertisers there are a million new accounts ready to personally attack the poster. Or Shrink will get mad and lock the thread and throw it into the rubber room. Stop being ignorant.

 

[WillieCicci]

>He has busted our balls a million times out
>here so you have to ask yourself why on an
>issue like this wouldn't he have posted to
>it if he felt strongly?

Pat, not the time to play the blame game...

I posted clearly above, "I AM NOT BLAMING KEN OR PAT."

I should have posted the info I had! I am pissed at myself for not doing so!

Then again I'm not a "watchdog" or getting paid to be one.

 

[happyday]

net2k,
you nailed right on the head..

 

[nets2k2]

They will never accept blame. They will never admit they are wrong. They only hear what they want to hear. If you signed up today and said Good job Patrick. Way to go Shrink. Shrink you are my GOD. Yes the new book you got advertising on your site has the deepest pockets in this industry. You will be accepted by these "mods" and wont be called a ghost or a shill or a poster with an agenda. But if you signup today and your first post is, GA is slow-paying me, or your advertiser stole money from me, or hey your new owner of this site has stolen money from a whole COUNTRY! your a shill, you have an agenda, or like one poster in a thread said about me, "If more people were smart enough to understand the true cornerstone of this site, and actually exploit it, they might not be bitter individuals like betting prophets and nets. Who really cares about anything other than making coin, having fun with your friends and family, and banging hot chicks. All of these bitter people here would do a lot better if they focused on the fun things--making coin gambling, and spending it. the people here who have time to only talk about negative and to hate obviously are gamblers down on their luck who have nothing better to do than stir the soup. Pretty pathetic if you asked me. i will guarantee you that all of the haters in these forums are DEAD BROKE. Happy people who are doing well don't disseminate hate. You guys in here who like to perpetuate hate should find a good job or hit a 10 team parlay. Perhaps your attitudes will change. Good luck to all, and goodbye to the haters. I will be much happier when these forums are narrowed down to the nice people."

and the mods back them up like Patrick did sayig "Good post, makes a lot of sense" with the guy who said that about me and Betting prophet.


Speak the truth on this site, and you are shot down like no other. Praise this site, and your a "good poster with no agenda". yeah okay...

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Willie Cicci:
>He has busted our balls a million times out
>here so you have to ask yourself why on an
>issue like this wouldn't he have posted to
>it if he felt strongly?

Pat, not the time to play the blame game...

I posted clearly above, "I AM NOT BLAMING KEN OR PAT."

I should have posted the info I had! I am pissed at myself for not doing so!

Then again I'm not a "watchdog" or getting paid to be one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree 100% now is not the time for the blame game, lets do what we can for the players. I was just substantiating what you said since you posted to it. There is no question about it, when you are right you are right in my book. Sucks that the players get the shaft as usual.

What makes it tough for these sites is the people who have the most incentive to hide their negative information are the best at disguising it. Even when someone knows something and they come to the forum then people call them out for not giving up their source. Most people won't do that. Not your fault Frank, not even close. Had you posted it people may have gotten mad at you for doing that. Tough business.

 

[JoeyC]

Another been in business for 2 years and "we're solid as a rock" shop.

This won't be the first or last joint to close offshore this year.

JC