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History will say that we misunderestimated George W Bush


By Andrew Roberts

Last Updated: 11:01pm BST 21/06/2008



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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>As he leaves the White House at the end of his second term, the President has a poll rating of only 23 per cent, and is widely disliked and even despised. His foreign policy has been judged a failure, especially in view of the long, painful, costly war that he declared, which is still not over.
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</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD class=caption><CENTER>History may place President Bush in a far better
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</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>He doesn't get on with his own party's presidential candidate, who is clearly distancing himself, and had lost many of his closest friends and staff to scandals and forced resignations. The New Republic, a hugely influential political magazine, writes that his historical reputation will be as bad as that of President Harding, the disastrous president of the Great Depression.
I am writing, of course, about Harry S Truman, generally regarded today as one of the greatest of all the 43 presidents, and the man who set the United States on the course that ended decades later in the defeat of Communism.
If the West wins the modern counterpart of that struggle, the War Against Terror, historians will look back in amazement at the present unpopularity of George W Bush, and marvel at it quite as much as we now marvel at the 67 per cent disapproval rates for Truman throughout 1952.
Presidents are seldom remembered for more than one or two things; the rest slip away into a haze of historical amnesia. With Kennedy it was the Bay of Pigs and his own assassination, with Johnson the Great Society and Vietnam, with Nixon it was opening up China and the Watergate scandal, and so on.

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George W Bush will be remembered for his responses to 9/11 in Afghanistan and Iraq, but since neither of those conflicts has yet ended in victory or defeat, it is far too early categorically to assume - as left-wingers, anti-war campaigners and almost all media commentators already do - that his historical reputation will be permanently down in the doldrums next to poor old Warren Harding's.
I suspect that historians of the future will instead see Bush's decision to insist upon a "surge" of reinforcements being sent into Iraq, combined with a complete change of anti-insurgency tactics as configured by General Petraeus, as the moment when the conflict was turned around there, in the West's favour.
No one - least of all Bush himself - denies that mistakes were made in the early days after the (unexpectedly early) fall of Baghdad, and historians will quite rightly examine them. But once the decades have put the stirring events of those years into their proper historical context, four great facts will emerge that will place Bush in a far better light than he currently enjoys.
The overthrow and execution of a foul tyrant, Saddam Hussein; the liberation of the Afghan people from the Taliban; the smashing of the terrorist networks of al-Qa'eda in that country and elsewhere and, finally, the protection of the American people from any further atrocities on US soil since 9/11, is a legacy of which to be proud.
While of course every individual death is a tragedy to the bereaved families, these great achievements have been won at a cost in human life a fraction the size of any past world-historical struggle of this magnitude.
The number of American troops killed and wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan is equivalent to the losses they endured - for a nation only a little over half the size in the mid-Forties - capturing a single island from the Japanese in the Pacific War.
British losses of 103 killed over seven years in Afghanistan bears comparison to a quiet weekend on the Western Front in the Great War, or the numbers the Army loses in traffic accidents in peacetime. History can lend a wider overall perspective to what are nonetheless, of course, immeasurably sad events.
History will also shine an unforgiving light on those ludicrous conspiracy theories that claim that the Iraq War was fought for any other reason than to implement the 14 UN resolutions that Saddam that had been flouting for 13 years.
The CIA and MI6 believed, like almost every other intelligence agency in the world, that Saddam had WMD, and the "Harmony" documents seized and translated since the fall of his regime make it abundantly clear that he was also supporting almost every anti-Western terrorist organisation imaginable.
Historians will appreciate how any War Against Terror that allowed Saddam to remain in place would have been an absurd travesty.
When the rise of al-Qa'eda is considered by historians like Philip Bobbitt and William Shawcross, it will be President Clinton's repeated refusal to act effectively in the 1990s, rather than President Bush's tough response after 9/11, that will be held up as culpable.
Judging by the rise in the value of the Iraqi dinar, the huge drop in the number of Iraqi deaths in the insurgency, the number of provinces now cleansed of al-Qa'eda, and the level of arms confiscations by the Iraqi Army in Sadr City, the new American "clear and hold" tactics have succeeded far better than the cynics ever thought possible even 12 months ago.
Give Iraq five, ten or twenty years, and Bush's decision to undertake the surge - courageously taken in the face of all bien pensant and "expert" opinion on both sides of the Atlantic - will rank alongside some of Harry Truman's great decisions of 1945-53.
If that happens, the time will come when George W Bush will be able to say what Lord Salisbury called the four cruellest yet sweetest words in the English language: "I told you so."
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who is next? David Limbaugh?


Andrew Roberts
(born on January 13, 1963) is a British conservative

During the invasion of Iraq he emerged as one of the leading UK proponents of the war, arguing on BBC Newsnight that failure to take military action would be tantamount to appeasement.


After reading A History of the English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900, George W. Bush invited him to lunch at the White House on 28 February 2007. After spending time in the Oval Office, Roberts and his wife dined with Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, the National Security Advisor Steve Hadley, White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and other White House officials
 

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interesting comparison to Truman. Its nice to read some right-wing stuff on here every now and then compared to all that vomit doc throws on here.
 

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interesting comparison to Truman. Its nice to read some right-wing stuff on here every now and then compared to all that vomit doc throws on here.

Is "Old Doc Mercer" not feeling well? Sometimes a stomach virus will make one throw up. :icon_conf
 

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I love this stuff. All us mere mortals just too much simple folk to comprehend the depth of George W. Bush's wisdom and greatness.
 
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Yeah ...

"wisdom" and "greatness" ... 2 words Bush cant spell and 2 words that
will never be associated with his ass when they telling stories to
kids 100 yrs from now
 

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Time will tell.

One thing for certain, time will shed light on the lying leftie loonies trying to rewrite history. The truth cannot be changed, and their hypocrisy will be mocked for all of time.

On a side bar, funny how Doc thinks he's actually discrediting somebody. He doesn't appear to realize that every post he cuts and pastes can be attacked in similar fashion. You just can't make stuff like this up.
 

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I love this stuff. All us mere mortals just too much simple folk to comprehend the depth of George W. Bush's wisdom and greatness.

Good observation. There is actually a lot of truth to that.

It took you guys 25 years to catch on to Reagans greatness.:103631605
 

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