Honestly, my assessment of the situation is that if I were to post up with BetUS I would be able to play there without any problems at all.
I mean, it's not like we read about people getting stiffed there all the time. They must be mailing out thousands of advertisements and I would guess they have tens of thousands of customers. I have been getting their mailers for years. And all of my friends get their stuff too.
If they were stiffing people on a regular basis, we'd be seeing a lot more threads about it in this forum. I have seen two people in this forum claim to have bad experiences with BetUS. They made it right with MFG in the end but they did try to screw him and would have without this forum.
My gut feeling tells me they are solid. But because Chuck has been dead on with the BoS group, I will take his advice and go with Cascade. Besides, Cascade has a good loyalty program.
Later,
Books Worst Enemy
I mean, it's not like we read about people getting stiffed there all the time. They must be mailing out thousands of advertisements and I would guess they have tens of thousands of customers. I have been getting their mailers for years. And all of my friends get their stuff too.
If they were stiffing people on a regular basis, we'd be seeing a lot more threads about it in this forum. I have seen two people in this forum claim to have bad experiences with BetUS. They made it right with MFG in the end but they did try to screw him and would have without this forum.
My gut feeling tells me they are solid. But because Chuck has been dead on with the BoS group, I will take his advice and go with Cascade. Besides, Cascade has a good loyalty program.
Later,
Books Worst Enemy
I just read through the latest MFG thread. He beat BetUS for $68K.
When The Shrink was stiffed by SBG Global, they stiffed for $100K.
It seems that all the stiff jobs are for VERY large dollar amounts.
From the bookie's perspective, it is kind of like being short a stock. A guy posts up $10K and beats you for $100K...the book lost a lot more than they stood to make. Doesn't make it right by any means. But I think that must be part of how the books are rationalizing these stiff jobs.
I think the solution is to not let any book ever get to where they owe you that much money. Spread the bankroll around to several books and if you are up when the rollover is reached take a payout immediately.
Later,
Books Worst Enemy
When The Shrink was stiffed by SBG Global, they stiffed for $100K.
It seems that all the stiff jobs are for VERY large dollar amounts.
From the bookie's perspective, it is kind of like being short a stock. A guy posts up $10K and beats you for $100K...the book lost a lot more than they stood to make. Doesn't make it right by any means. But I think that must be part of how the books are rationalizing these stiff jobs.
I think the solution is to not let any book ever get to where they owe you that much money. Spread the bankroll around to several books and if you are up when the rollover is reached take a payout immediately.
Later,
Books Worst Enemy
WBE,I'll make it short. I was given a 45% bonus at betus. I sent 15 G. I was told that I had a 4.5 time rollover. I met the rollover and requested a payout. I was told that my rollover was now 10 times or sacrafice the 8 thousand$ bonus. Not wanting to give back 8 G, I agreed to the rollover. When I asked why they were being shady they responded, we only want recreational players. When I reminded them that I had made 3 other deposits and they never mentioned my betting pattern, they then said that the bonuses were meant to help out people to get started. When a guy sends 15 G. , he really doesnt need any help getting started. They obviously were being shady just like they were to MFG. They were giving me bonuses on every deposit and were fine with it until I wanted a W.D. Like I said, by sending places like this your hard earned money, you are supporting dishonest crooks who will do anything to avoid paying out decent money. you are right when you say that you will probably have no problems with them if you keep your balance small. But that shouldnt be a concern. If you win at a place that is legit and honest, you shouldnt have to worry. Places like Cris and Hollywood may not give these kinds of bonuses, but you never have to sweat it if you start kicking ass. the reason Betus/Omni and Royal give ridiculous bonuses is because they know that if you win serious money, they will try every trick up their sleeve to avoid paying up. That is wrong and bullshit that shouldnt be supported. Send a message and stop supporting these dishonest, shady bastards. i know you will. Good luck.
Books - Slow down. The reason no one posts that they got ripped off from Betus group is because no one at the forums play there because of MFG and others that told their stories and scared everyone away from playing there. No one at the forums plays there. Start a thread here and across the street and just ask "Who plays at Betus, Omni, or Little Nasa." I'll bet you will have less than 5 people that say they play there, unless they are shills of the book with less than 100 posts. Mark my words.
All those schedules they send out get to people that don't know the forums. The people that do visit the forums don't play there.
All those schedules they send out get to people that don't know the forums. The people that do visit the forums don't play there.
Not a big David1 fan, but I've got a feeling he's probably telling the truth on this one.
I know 3 different, unrelated guys that signed up with BetUS since they started advertising with MajorWager and Gambling 911. I think their rationale was that this new forum presence provided a sort of "security blanket" for playing at BetUS, and to some extent, they're probably right ... I doubt we'll see any confiscations of post-up funds from legit players ...
... but ... all 3 of these guys have either had their bonuses confiscated, their loyalty points confiscated, or both ... and this happened after their bonuses and loyalty points were already earned, not before.
So I wouldn't be too quick to elevate them from the "shit book" category just yet.
I know 3 different, unrelated guys that signed up with BetUS since they started advertising with MajorWager and Gambling 911. I think their rationale was that this new forum presence provided a sort of "security blanket" for playing at BetUS, and to some extent, they're probably right ... I doubt we'll see any confiscations of post-up funds from legit players ...
... but ... all 3 of these guys have either had their bonuses confiscated, their loyalty points confiscated, or both ... and this happened after their bonuses and loyalty points were already earned, not before.
So I wouldn't be too quick to elevate them from the "shit book" category just yet.
