I pretended to have shit and got burned.

[mtx]

The other day some fools were calling my 2-3xBB preflop raises with AA and KK when I had hit top pair on board, giving me the illusion that they had nothing until they raised my ass on the river...I figured that was a good strategy to use since it completely fools everyone (especially if you hit top pair on flop) so I tried to do the same today. I got AA in early/mid and was reraised 5xBB, so I called and continued to call/check until river when I bet huge and was reraised all in...guy hits trip 9s on the river.......just gotta love this game, you try to be unpredictable and it ends up biting you in the ass....

 

[ECS]

2 points, A. I personally love this with AA/KK for the above reasons, it sucks you got unlucky, but in the end thats what you want. However, I personally like to jam the turn in these situations. If they are on total air, you still win a decent pot if they've raised pre and bet the flop/turn. If they have made top pair you most likely get em in with the worst of it. Of course its risky, but thats why its called gambling

 

[Snookslayer]

Too risky for my blood. I bet big early when I think I'm ahead. But either way, it's a trade-off:

Win smaller pots with less risk, or bigger pots with more risk. Pick your poison.

:lukesky

 

[mtx]

had 55, hit trips on flop, i kept reraising and bastard keeps betting and hits trip 10s on river......$142 pot.....why do i never get this luck? its always fuckers with better cards sucking out or fuckers with shittier cards beating me.....

it's really too bad my river luck is so bad.....always lose on river

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

NEVER give a free card on the internet.....amd NEVER EVER EVER slow play trips and prepare to lose your whole stack most of the time u get them. It is absolutely the worst hand in internet poker.
Just went out on the 1st hand..Entered late so blinds were like 80/40....I guy min raises a few call. i have A3s on the button so i call. Flop comes 3K3 and the guy makes it like 250, the pot. There was both blinds behind me, i dont want nobody to fold so i just call....they both fold. next card is a 4. He bets pot again and i make it 1200 more ...he shoves....I call....he's got 44 and im gone in 1 hand. I thought he had 88 so catching the 4 was no big shock. ive learned to live with the rigging...

 

[Snookslayer]

ive learned to live with the rigging...

:think2:

Maybe I'm naive, but I've never felt any rigging. Even after the wrong side of many bad beats. At least not in tournaments. In cash games I'm A LOT more suspicious, since the site gets a cut of every pot. Whether the site is rigging or not, one thing is for sure in cash games - players conspire against you. I personally know people who do it.

In tournaments the site is paid up-front and doesn't care who wins. It's also a lot more difficult for players to conspire in elimination play. I play low stakes Bodog sit-n-go's and I've done consistently well despite being an average player.

Believe me, if I'm winning money you know it ain't rigged. :coke:

 

[mtx]

this thread will never die.

i know this is bad, but i'm on semi-tilt and i just went from 1/2NL to 5/10FL lol.

i just called 66 in MP, BB raises me, i call him. flop 579 rainbow. he bets, i call. 8c comes. he bets, i call again (should have raised). 6d comes on river and now i think i'm fucked, tie at best and he might have a 10 to screw me. he gets disc'ed, i bet, and after 20-25s he folds and i win. honestly, how unlucky do i have to be to hit my trip on a RIVER with it potentially f'in me over???

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Im so far past tilt its a shame. I already know sometimes several hands in advance that im about to get screwed. I see it coming, i see the setup, ive got an unfoldable hand that is ahead and my stack size says only a fool would fold. I call and i lose...everytime.
I use tourny shark which gives me everybodies stats at my table. i know who loose or tight and whos a winner or loser before the 1st card is dealt. I can safely say the winners win the big hands regardless of their cards. Maybe they got the best hand to fold i havent analyzed everyone but in the end the chips go to the players who have won before.
If im at a table of avg players, that would be all about break even players. If 1 of them builds a big stack then when someone gets knocked out a winning player will take the seat and within 3 to 5 hands will have the chips.

I find it even more strange that i can go for over 75 days without having a hand hold up in a big pot that would lead to a big payday despite consistently getting it in good...Im not saying its not possible but its damn sure strange. And whats stranger to me is ...u remember my post a few weeks ago about the millionaire player who called me on the bubble of a $300 mtt with AJos when we both had top 20 stacks....It was a horrible call poker wise that can only be justified by him being able to afford to gamble...Naturally he won the hand and i havent come close to anything but the bubble since..
But a player like that he just gets lucky sometimes and over the long run he will lose......MY ASS HE WILL!!! IM the 1 on the losing streak and lets see how he's done in just this past week..

08/23/2009 Aug 22 23:00 $109 NLHE [turbo, 2X Chance, $25K guaranteed] $100.00+$9.00 1/293 $8,917.50
08/22/2009 Aug 21 21:30 Nightly Seventy Grand [$70,000 guaranteed] $50.00+$5.00 398/1369 $0.00
08/22/2009 Aug 21 21:00 The Nightly Hundred Grand $150.00+$12.00 5/745 $5,866.88
08/22/2009 Aug 21 20:00 $109+R NL Hold'em [$20,000 guaranteed] (Rebuys) $100.00+$9.00 43/138 $0.00
08/22/2009 Aug 21 19:00 $109 NL Hold'em [$40,000 guaranteed] $100.00+$9.00 111/502 $0.00
08/21/2009 Aug 21 15:00 Daily Eighty Grand [$55 NLHE - $80,000 guaranteed] $50.00+$5.00 1256/1939 $0.00
08/21/2009 Aug 21 18:00 $109 NL Hold'em [2R1A, $10,000 guaranteed] (Rebuys) $100.00+$9.00 5/105 $1,748.50


Yea its really working out well for me........

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

As it always does....
PokerStars Game #31958826121: Tournament #187199624, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/08/23 10:03:59 ET
Table '187199624 23' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: RedFranklin (2820 in chips)
Seat 2: deniz29 (2260 in chips)
Seat 3: Amgomes (4115 in chips)
Seat 4: vikingper (2235 in chips)
Seat 5: allynlong (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: ominoesius (3325 in chips)
Seat 7: afreespirit (1765 in chips)
Seat 8: cc&7 (1135 in chips)
afreespirit: posts small blind 50
cc&7: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [Kh As]
RedFranklin: folds
deniz29: folds
Amgomes: folds
vikingper: folds
allynlong: raises 1400 to 1500
ominoesius: folds
afreespirit: folds
cc&7: calls 1035 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (365) returned to allynlong
*** FLOP *** [9c 2d 8s]
*** TURN *** [9c 2d 8s] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [9c 2d 8s 2s] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cc&7: shows [5s Ad] (two pair, Fives and Deuces)
allynlong: shows [Kh As] (a pair of Deuces)
cc&7 collected 2320 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2320 | Rake 0
Board [9c 2d 8s 2s 5d]
Seat 1: RedFranklin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: deniz29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Amgomes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: vikingper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: allynlong showed [Kh As] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 6: ominoesius (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: afreespirit (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: cc&7 (big blind) showed [5s Ad] and won (2320) with two pair, Fives and Deuces

 

[soggybottomboy]

:think2:

Maybe I'm naive, but I've never felt any rigging. Even after the wrong side of many bad beats. At least not in tournaments. In cash games I'm A LOT more suspicious, since the site gets a cut of every pot. Whether the site is rigging or not, one thing is for sure in cash games - players conspire against you. I personally know people who do it.

In tournaments the site is paid up-front and doesn't care who wins. It's also a lot more difficult for players to conspire in elimination play. I play low stakes Bodog sit-n-go's and I've done consistently well despite being an average player.

Believe me, if I'm winning money you know it ain't rigged. :coke:

On-line poker deals more incredible hands and suck-outs than you will see live. You also see more roller-coaster hands where the apparant winner changes with every card. This creates more action and excitement for players and moves the tournament along quicker so players can play more tournaments. That's where the site's pay-off is if you bust out and play another tournament especially if you believe you should have won and got f*cked over.

 

[mtx]

ridiculous session again....first 50 hands i see flop 21%, next 100 i see that % dwindle to 12%....

 

[mtx]

As always, I continue to lose HUGE pots.....fucking seen 30% of the flop over 30 hands with better variance tonight and then this shit happens:

PokerStars Game #32066355132: Hold'em Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2009/08/26 0:32:22 ET
Table 'Roswitha' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Mudshark2541 ($208 in chips)
Seat 2: Penguin44 ($189 in chips)
Seat 3: X3_KTO ($198 in chips)
Seat 4: aakk168 ($132 in chips)
Seat 5: pipeline835 ($257 in chips)
Seat 6: NovaSandler ($193 in chips)
Seat 7: vtmstrt ($130 in chips)
Seat 8: mtxed ($228.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Alcarman ($165 in chips)
Seat 10: iamnam ($111 in chips)
X3_KTO: posts small blind $2
aakk168: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mtxed [Kc Kd]
pipeline835: folds
NovaSandler: folds
vtmstrt: folds
mtxed: raises $5 to $10
Alcarman: folds
iamnam: folds
Mudshark2541: raises $5 to $15
Penguin44: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
X3_KTO: folds
aakk168: folds
mtxed: calls $10
Mudshark2541: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [6s 7d Qh]
mtxed: checks
Mudshark2541: checks
Penguin44: bets $5
mtxed: raises $5 to $10
Mudshark2541: calls $10
Penguin44: calls $5
*** TURN *** [6s 7d Qh] [Ts]
mtxed: bets $10
mtxed said, "AQ?"
Mudshark2541: calls $10
Penguin44: raises $10 to $20
mtxed: calls $10
Mudshark2541: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [6s 7d Qh Ts] [2h]
mtxed: checks
Mudshark2541: checks
Penguin44: bets $10
mtxed: calls $10
NovaSandler is disconnected
Mudshark2541: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Penguin44: shows [Td Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
mtxed: mucks hand
Mudshark2541: mucks hand
Penguin44 collected $184 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $187 | Rake $3
Board [6s 7d Qh Ts 2h]
Seat 1: Mudshark2541 mucked [Ah Qd]
Seat 2: Penguin44 (button) showed [Td Tc] and won ($184) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: X3_KTO (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: aakk168 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pipeline835 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: NovaSandler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: vtmstrt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mtxed mucked [Kc Kd]
Seat 9: Alcarman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: iamnam folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Didn't matter what cards I had, fucker was gonna call all the way to river with his tens hoping to get lucky...I mean shit, who the hell reraises on two raises with 10s even though they are LP? Joke of a fucking game. I had A4s earlier and flopped nuts but of course there was no fucking action yet I'm always getting fukked out of my premium hands? COME ON FUCKERS.

 

[mtx]

And again........

PokerStars Game #32066904139: Hold'em Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2009/08/26 1:01:21 ET
Table 'Himalia III' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: trebligj ($91.50 in chips)
Seat 2: rbones333 ($105 in chips)
Seat 3: PeaceDeath ($125 in chips)
Seat 4: Pa Bugs ($149.50 in chips)
Seat 5: asofel ($85 in chips)
Seat 7: mtxed ($122.50 in chips)
Seat 8: laqgolf84 ($178.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Scottyb21 ($135 in chips)
Seat 10: malone77 ($68.50 in chips)
asofel: posts small blind $1
cubfan2238: is sitting out
cubfan2238 leaves the table
mtxed: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mtxed [Jc Jd]
laqgolf84: raises $3 to $6
Scottyb21: folds
malone77: folds
trebligj: folds
rbones333: folds
PeaceDeath: folds
Pa Bugs: calls $6
asofel: folds
mtxed: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6d 9d 6s]
mtxed: checks
laqgolf84: bets $3
Pa Bugs: raises $3 to $6
mtxed: raises $3 to $9
laqgolf84: folds
Pa Bugs: calls $3
*** TURN *** [6d 9d 6s] [3s]
mtxed: bets $6
Pa Bugs: raises $6 to $12
mtxed: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [6d 9d 6s 3s] [7s]
ThornFish2 joins the table at seat #6
mtxed: checks
Pa Bugs: bets $6
mtxed: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pa Bugs: shows [Ah 6c] (three of a kind, Sixes)
mtxed: mucks hand
Pa Bugs collected $73 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $76 | Rake $3
Board [6d 9d 6s 3s 7s]
Seat 1: trebligj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: rbones333 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: PeaceDeath folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Pa Bugs (button) showed [Ah 6c] and won ($73) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: asofel (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mtxed (big blind) mucked [Jc Jd]
Seat 8: laqgolf84 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Scottyb21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: malone77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Do I even need to bet or do the raising anymore? Do I even need to play? Every hand is a raise, bitches have something every time it seems. I honestly can't recall winning so many huge pots with shitty hands...