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Cubs fans to have Bartman baseball demolished Thursday
Updated: Wednesday February 25, 2004 10:55PM





Harry Carry's restaurant paid more than $100,000 for the Bartman ball in a December auction.
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CHICAGO (AP) -- This ball is going, going ... Ka-BLAM!

In an event applying the gloss of Hollywood and P.T. Barnum to the "curse" of the Chicago Cubs, the foul ball that couldn't be caught in October's playoffs will be obliterated by a special-effects expert on live television Thursday night.

The ball-bashing, taking place with spring training just underway, is being done to bring some closure to one of the most painful losses in the Cubs' doleful history.

Grant DePorter, who helped buy the ball at a December auction for $113,824 on behalf of Harry Caray's Restaurant Group, has lined up three hours of music, comedy and celebrity appearances leading up to the climactic event -- everything short of Steve Bartman, the hapless fan who deflected the ball during Game 6 of the NL championship series.

The ball will be sent into oblivion by Michael Lantieri, an Oscar winner who wrecks things for a living and has worked on such movies as Jurassic Park and Back to the Future. Lantieri, a Cubs die-hard himself, would not reveal his exact demolition plans but admitted he has been blowing up a dozen balls a day in his California lab in preparation.

"That ball's gotta go," said DePorter, managing partner of the restaurant group, which organized the event as part of its annual tribute to Caray, the beloved Cubs broadcaster who died six years ago Thursday. "It's like the ring from The Lord of the Rings and we're kind of like Frodo, trying to get it over with."

Castillo has advice for Cubs

JUPITER, Fla. (AP) -- Florida Marlins second baseman Luis Castillo says he traded friendly barbs during the offseason with fellow Dominican Moises Alou about the pivotal foul ball in last year's NL championship series.

"He said we were lucky," Castillo said Wednesday. "I told him, 'When you guys go to spring training, go early and put fans in the way and try to catch a fly ball, because maybe it can happen again."'

In Game 6 of the NLCS, Chicago Cubs fan Steve Bartman deflected the ball hit by Castillo, knocking it out of the reach of Cubs left fielder Alou. Castillo then walked, triggering an eight-run rally by the Marlins, who avoided elimination and won the series the next night.

The ball Bartman deflected will be obliterated Thursday night by a Chicago restaurant group. Bartman won't be there.

"If he still lives in Chicago, I feel so sorry for him," Castillo said. "I think that play was the key for us. The Marlins should do something. I could give him some tickets if he wants to watch our first game. I want to say thank you."




The ball figured in one of sports' biggest collapses. With the Cubs leading the Florida Marlins 3-0 on Oct. 14 and just five outs from their first World Series appearance since 1945, Bartman reached for the ball hit toward his front-row seat at Wrigley Field, knocking it out of reach of left fielder Moises Alou. The Cubs then gave up a staggering eight-run rally to the Marlins, and squandered another lead in Game 7 the next night.

The loose ball was snatched up by a Chicago lawyer and sold at auction.

Amid public misgivings about the way he was vilified for the wrenching loss, Bartman was invited to participate in the charity event in front of the downtown Harry Caray's restaurant. But the 26-year-old fan, who has refused all requests for interviews since issuing an apology in October, has no plans to attend.

"He issued a final statement, and that's pretty much the last thing he intended to say about it," said family friend Frank Murtha. "His whole intention was to return to his normal life."

The ball will get VIP treatment in its last hours, from a farewell trip to Wrigley and a last night on public display in a hotel suite to a final "dinner" of prime steak and lobster and even a massage.

Then comes the final reckoning. Among thousands of fan suggestions for the act: having NASA put the ball into orbit, dropping it off the Sears Tower and having Chicago native Bill Murray, in Ghostbusters gear, obliterate it.

DePorter promises only that "it will be destroyed in a way that there is a mess."

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I mean come on people... get a GRIP on reality..giving the ball a lobster dinner then blowing it up? WOW
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Actually there expecting quite a crowd out there tonight. I might catch something to eat over there just to see what the response is.

The bottom line is if Alou caught that ball, then there would have been 2 outs and Gonzo wouldnt have hurried and bobbled the ball to turn the double play..

Faith I guess just like the red sox going down from Boones homerun...
 

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what I do not understand is with a 3-0 lead and 5 outs left meaning there was already 1 out in the 8th. HOW in god's green earth did that bartman deflecting a foul ball directly cause the cubs to let the marlins score 8 runs!
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1 run or 2 extra I can see but 8 runs!!!!
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Even Alou said that ball had nothing to do with it..
 

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Welcome to America, where we can try and feed a baseball lobster, while just a block away people are living in boxes.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dante:
what I do not understand is with a 3-0 lead and 5 outs left meaing there was already 1 out in the 8th. HOW in god's green earth did that bartman deflecting a foul ball directly cause the cubs to let the marlins score 8 runs!
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1 run or 2 extra I can see but 8 runs!!!!
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Even Alou said that ball had nothing to do with it..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

exactly. in my opinion, it was baker's fault. after the foul ball incident, prior was clearly upset (fueled by alou's reaction). then, he walked castillo. it was the 8th inning of a deciding playoff game...you have a 3 run lead...your starting pitcher is visibley upset and now has runners on...GO GET HIM NOW!!!!

no, baker sits on his ass and watches the marlins tie the game. then, he gets prior. then, the cubs lose.

he did the same thing grady little did in a critical situation...NOTHING. little got fired, baker is still a hero and everyone in chicago blames a fan. unbelievable.
 

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Dante - Thats a pretty simple question to answer. No point in even asking that. In the heat of the moment, your mind just explodes. When theres supposed to be 2 outs instead of 1 out, your game plan changes every inning, every play, especially in baseball.

Just competetion in live action is different watching it on tv...
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EveryDayGambler:
Dante - Thats a pretty simple question to answer. No point in even asking that. In the heat of the moment, your mind just explodes. When theres supposed to be 2 outs instead of 1 out, your game plan changes every inning, every play, especially in baseball.

Just competetion in live action is different watching it on tv...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you know what is supposed to happen in that situation? you are supposed to act like a professional instead of a little-leaguer. you're supposed to say "that was a bad break but we still have a 3-run lead...let's get out of this and go to the world series". once baker saw that his pitcher was upset and had lost focus out there, he should have got him. also, i don't remember how many pitches he had thrown but it was the 8th inning. the cubs have a decent pen...why leave him out there to fume about what "should have happened".

baker totally screwed that up and i will say so until my dying day.
 

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cubs fans created their own problems.... they REALLY REALLY thought the game was over with a 3-0 lead in the eighth and their world series celebrations had already started.way pre-mature, I mean over 162 games, how often does a team get 4 runs over TWO innings? A kabillion, its no big deal. cub fans were overconfident all series and looked down on the marlins.

any red sox fan could tell ya, a 3 run lead in the eighth is a nice spot to be in, but it doest mean your gonna win, its just a nice start. no red sox fan would celebrate until there's 3 outs in the ninth..
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Smith:
any red sox fan could tell ya, a 3 run lead in the eighth is a nice spot to be in, but it doest mean your gonna win, its just a nice start. no red sox fan would celebrate until there's 3 outs in the ninth..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

what about red sox players? manny ramirez supposedly called a relative at some point during the 7th game when it looked like the sox had the game won saying "we are going to the world series".
 

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i didnt know that. as a red sox fan, we dont celebrate early. bad things happen late in crucial games.

in the end, we dont celebrate at all
 

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All this stuff is crazy, Bartman did not lose the game, the cubs lost the game.

Funny thing is I find it hard to believe that the cubs wont be in the World Series this year.
Great rotation and bull pen plus some good hitters.
Anything less than a trip deep into the playoffs and they should blow up wrigley field.
 

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Last words from the Bartman ball

Just 48 hours shy of his planned public execution -- he will be blown up on Thursday night in Chicago in an effort to put an end to all Cubs' curses -- the famed Bartman Ball finally broke his silence and addressed the media for the first time since that fateful Wrigley evening last October. The following is a complete transcript of his statement, delivered in the Grand Ballroom at the Chicago Hilton and Towers:

[The ball is accompanied to the podium by the donut ring from Luis Castillo's bat. The donut ring speaks first.]

Thanks to Steve Bartman and Moises Alou, the ball will now pay the ultimate price.
"I'm here because I wanted The Ball to know that he isn't in this thing alone. We were all a part of what went down. And me, the bat, and Moises' glove, we all just want to say that we think it's wrong the way The Ball has been singled out like this."


[The Ball then approaches the mic.]

"The Ball will read a statement," The Ball says. "The Ball will not take questions.

"To begin, does The Ball look great tonight or what? The Ball is lean, mean and 30 grams lighter. And before you start stirring up any s---, This has nothing to do with fallout from the BALCO hearings. The Ball got this way on the Atkins Diet.

"Next, the Ball wants to say that $113,824.16 is chump change. The Ball is insulted at the price he brought at auction. The Ball wants a recount. And, more importantly, The Ball wants his share of the money.

"Most importantly, The Ball has had it up to the Commissioner's signature with the blame game. Blaming The Ball for the Cubs giving up eight runs and blowing a three-games-to-one lead is ludicrous. Hate the playahs, not The Ball. Point your pyrotechnics at Moises Alou. Look at The Ball: He's round. He's small. How hard is it to catch him?!

"And another thing, too ... where is your Dusty-hate? In Boston, a town where they know a thing or two about curses, by the way, they ran their slow-hooked manager out of town on a rail. But you guys, you just sat back and watched while Baker left Prior out there until his arm turned to linguini.

"You want a ball worthy of your contempt? Try that pathetic little dribbler that skated under Buckner's legs in Beantown once upon a time. Sorry thing couldn't even get in the air. I was in flight, boys and girls. In flight and carrying your whole sick, twisted history with me, right into Moises' glove. I did my job. Get off me.

"But if you really must blame a ball, blame the ball that bounced off Alex Gonzalez's glove. If that was The Ball, Gonzalez would have scooped him up for an inning-ending doubleplay and we're all still celebrating on Rush Street.

"Speaking of which, The Ball could use a little something to drink right now. These lights are killing me.''


[A Cubs assistant pours him a glass of water.]

One last look at the infamous Bartman ball.
"The Ball is going to the big glove in the sky tomorrow and you bring him a lousy glass of water? Take this back and get The Ball some scotch. And make it The Macallan, 18-year.''



[A Cubs assistant brings a shot glass.]


"What? Did someone just declare prohibition again? Is this all The Ball gets? Gaylord Perry couldn't throw a decent spitter with this.''
[A Cubs assistant brings a bottle.]

"That's better. Now, this drink reminds The Ball that the madmen plotting his demise are claiming Harry Caray would 'want it this way.' To that, The Ball just says this: The only thing Harry would want right now is a nice, cold Old Style and a clear lane from the booth to the bathroom.



"And do you really think you can kill The Ball anyway? Do what you will with the horsehide and the yarn, my friends, but The Ball has a solid rubber core. The Ball's spirit was here long before you (ask the Billy Goat) and it'll be here long after you've had your flashy little party tomorrow night. You want The Ball? You can't handle The Ball. Kill The Ball and The Ball goes martyr on your sorry asses. He goes immortally yard.
"The Ball goes yard in Wrigley and St. Louis and Houston and Arizona and he goes yard in California and Texas and New York! And he goes yard in South Florida and Pittsburgh and Milwaukee and Detroit. And when the Expos move to Washington, D.C., The Ball goes so yard there he sails through the window and right into the White House. Yeeeeeaaaaah!"



[The Ball collapses. There is a long, awkward silence that is broken by the occasional reporter sniffling and holding back tears. Then a Cubs assistant steps to the podium.]
"Thank you for attending today,'' the assistant says. "And if you'll hold on a minute, we'll have the cork from Sammy Sosa's bat up here for you.''

By Eric Neel and Jim Caple
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