I keep hearing Charlie Strong didn't get a fair shake, wasn't dealt a great hand...

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What are they talking about? Is there something to this? Granted it's usually other blacks saying it so it might just be a black coaches matter type of thing.
 

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Total failure....3 seasons is long enough.

16-21 enough said!
 

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What are they talking about? Is there something to this? Granted it's usually other blacks saying it so it might just be a black coaches matter type of thing.
Typical shit stirring by you. Who keeps saying he didn't get a fair shake?
 

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the guy going into BAYLOR,,, now that mutherfkr is in trouble,, lol
 
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Total failure....3 seasons is long enough.

16-21 enough said!

I disagree personally. He came into a program at Texas that had a bunch of entitled babies. He went to south Florida and the toughest football players in Texas and brought in some players. You will see Herman do very well at Texas next year because of the type of players and players Strong brought in. Mack Brown had been bringing in the softy babies, spread style top Texas players that weren't panning out anymore. He was letting studs leave the state and allowed other schools in state to become powerhouses.

Strong was doomed from the get go unless he was given 5-6 years after that debacle. You never want to follow up someone who was there that long and did win. Examples; Urban Meyer leaving FLorida, Watch when Saban leaves Bama, and so on. It always ends this way in sports.
 

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I disagree personally. He came into a program at Texas that had a bunch of entitled babies. He went to south Florida and the toughest football players in Texas and brought in some players. You will see Herman do very well at Texas next year because of the type of players and players Strong brought in. Mack Brown had been bringing in the softy babies, spread style top Texas players that weren't panning out anymore. He was letting studs leave the state and allowed other schools in state to become powerhouses.

Strong was doomed from the get go unless he was given 5-6 years after that debacle. You never want to follow up someone who was there that long and did win. Examples; Urban Meyer leaving FLorida, Watch when Saban leaves Bama, and so on. It always ends this way in sports.

And NOBODY is crying racism in the Texas situation.
See what I mean 919?

There is 0 reason, ZERO, that no matter what was left to you when you took over you can't beat Kansas in your third year as head coach. It's Texas, the talented Freshmen you should have recruited in your 1st and 2nd year are now in their prime.

As far as no one crying racism...let's ignore the black commentators who have bewilderingly criticized the firing. Many of the black Texas players were planning on boycotting the final game over news Strong was to be fired. Maybe it has happened, but I have never heard of something like that for a white coach.

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record speaks for itself... bad hire to begin with.. blacks cry over everything , even though dude leaves with 10 million severance
 

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record speaks for itself... bad hire to begin with.. blacks cry over everything , even though dude leaves with 10 million severance
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You can get in trouble telling the truth..!!..spot on though..gl Ducks will come back..!!..gl
 

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We all know perfectly well that with very High Profile Programs such as this, Texas, a Coach gets only a certain Window of Time in which to produce results.

Is this "Fair"? Nearly 100% of the time, its not Fair. Is this "Intelligent"? as an approach, for these Top Tier Programs? To continually flip coaches, effectively harpooning the program and having to start from scratch?

Of Course its not intelligent.

Unless a "Lightning Strikes" 1-in-a-lifetime chance to grab up a Saban or an Urban Meyers is present...

...absent that, its stupid and aggravating to Fans and Bettors for these High Profile Programs to not give a Coach a Chance to make it happen via Recruiting.

How you hire a guy for 2014 give him that year, 2015 then just this one: 2016 then Can Him?

Recruiting has to be given a chance to Materialize.

Its ridiculous but that said, this is how such programs do stuff.

Based on what we see within the team talent-wise both now and looking towards next year I felt the firing was premature, should have let him have 2017. To show if he could bring anything worthwhile.

Herman's History is all over Football within the state of TX though and also possibly real +EV tutelage under other HUGE PROGRAM Coaching Staff so this could work out very well for TX.
 

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why is every time a black person fails at a job, the race card card comes into play.....i dont see it when a white person fails and get can
 

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We all know perfectly well that with very High Profile Programs such as this, Texas, a Coach gets only a certain Window of Time in which to produce results.

Is this "Fair"? Nearly 100% of the time, its not Fair. Is this "Intelligent"? as an approach, for these Top Tier Programs? To continually flip coaches, effectively harpooning the program and having to start from scratch?

Of Course its not intelligent.

Unless a "Lightning Strikes" 1-in-a-lifetime chance to grab up a Saban or an Urban Meyers is present...

...absent that, its stupid and aggravating to Fans and Bettors for these High Profile Programs to not give a Coach a Chance to make it happen via Recruiting.

How you hire a guy for 2014 give him that year, 2015 then just this one: 2016 then Can Him?

Recruiting has to be given a chance to Materialize.

Its ridiculous but that said, this is how such programs do stuff.

Based on what we see within the team talent-wise both now and looking towards next year I felt the firing was premature, should have let him have 2017. To show if he could bring anything worthwhile.

Herman's History is all over Football within the state of TX though and also possibly real +EV tutelage under other HUGE PROGRAM Coaching Staff so this could work out very well for TX.
I think in many situations you're right, 3 years may be too short

I just don't see it here though. He could have inherited a roster of all females and by the third year at a recruiting powerhouse like Texas should at least be able to comfortably beat Kansas, a team who hasn't beaten them since 1938 or beaten an FBS program in over 2 years.

Add to that his coaching performance. I haven't followed Texas that much but I remember seeing some absolutely boneheaded clock management and timeout decisions which is on the head coach.

Texas head coaching position is one of the best in the country for a reason. Plenty of money, huge fan base, great recruiting area, and a relatively weak conference. He should have done much better in 3 years.
 

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I think in many situations you're right, 3 years may be too short

I just don't see it here though. He could have inherited a roster of all females and by the third year at a recruiting powerhouse like Texas should at least be able to comfortably beat Kansas, a team who hasn't beaten them since 1938 or beaten an FBS program in over 2 years.

Add to that his coaching performance. I haven't followed Texas that much but I remember seeing some absolutely boneheaded clock management and timeout decisions which is on the head coach.

Texas head coaching position is one of the best in the country for a reason. Plenty of money, huge fan base, great recruiting area, and a relatively weak conference. He should have done much better in 3 years.


Yeah, I mean....excellent post. I don't even know where to start with it, so many great points.

Recruiting....TX is a MegaTon Bomb, for this at the High School level, of course.... Intuitively though I feel like a Coach needs, at the least, 5 Years regardless cuz Injuries, possibility of some Commits down the Pike (Future) potential BombAss Recruiting Classes born in part of the STABILITY that not having a Revolving Door of coaches creates.

Charlie Strong or anyone has to come in and compete with programs that have not flipped coaches, thus have that stability.

And what if a Combo of Jabril Peppers/Herschel Walker/Brian Bosworth/Ricky Williams and Vince Young type players are in 6th, 7th and 8th Grade area when you step in, to the role of Coach?

A deal you could have made a Bama-style (potential) "Dynasty" from?


Stability, Man. Kids "Buy In" to a Coaching Staff's System and a Program then they have the deal switched up on them. This affected their play at Kansas, probably but yeah.....managing to lose at Kansas, for Texas...

....real hard to argue that this combined with Charlie's overall Worst Record in Texas' History, did not combine to equal a Death Blow.

Mostly I come from a 'capping perspective on this, of course, Stability in Coaching staff makes my job of capping College Football less hard.
 

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