I have played millions over poker hands, and have had over 20 royals, but never flopped one

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Until now...

Just flopped a Royal Flush at BetDSI (Winning Poker Network).

I was due... should happen once every ~650,000 hands.


I had a guy raise my river small bet, but folded when I reraised him.
 

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Until now...

Just flopped a Royal Flush at BetDSI (Winning Poker Network).

I was due... should happen once every ~650,000 hands.


I had a guy raise my river small bet, but folded when I reraised him.

I'm guessing you didn't get a bonus for that huh? Some live places give bonuses for the different suites of the royals...Some of the Jackpots for the suites would get pretty big too. The one I was referring to was Rivers Casino
 

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Also, what do you think about WPN, I just started to play there through DSI as well. I play mostly 6 handed 1/2 or heads up sit n go.
 

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Also, what do you think about WPN, I just started to play there through DSI as well. I play mostly 6 handed 1/2 or heads up sit n go.

WPN is solid. Soft tournies and micro-stake cash games. The cash games get tough around 2/4 though.
 
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WPN seems solid. I've been playing micros, 8-12 tables at a time, up to $50 NL... that's where the donkeys are.

I've built up a good balance over the last couple weeks. I haven't ever withdrawn from them (betDSI) but will try to
sometime in the next month, just to see what kind of hoops I have to jump through.
 

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WPN seems solid. I've been playing micros, 8-12 tables at a time, up to $50 NL... that's where the donkeys are.

I've built up a good balance over the last couple weeks. I haven't ever withdrawn from them (betDSI) but will try to
sometime in the next month, just to see what kind of hoops I have to jump through.

how many tables do they allow you to play at a time?
 

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I've never tried to see what the limit is, but I know I've had at least 12 going... maybe 13

How are you able to learn the other players tendencies when 12 tabling?

Or do you just strictly make your decisions based on math?
 
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How are you able to learn the other players tendencies when 12 tabling?

Or do you just strictly make your decisions based on math?

I'm able to take notes in the poker client for each player. You can tell pretty quickly that some people have no
clue about bet sizing, and when to get their stack in the pot. Sometimes I have to bring up the note window
for a certain player, and remember in my head what I want to write, and then wait for a lull in the action to
write the note in.
 

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How are you able to learn the other players tendencies when 12 tabling?

Or do you just strictly make your decisions based on math?

It's called a HUD, which drastically reduces the amount of "paying attention" you have to do.
 

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I've used Poker Tracker in the past, but am not currently using a HUD... which software do you use Harry?

HoldEm Manager 2. 30 day free trial still I believe. After that it's just a one time fee of like $100 to have it for life.

Invaluable tool, pays for itself in a week.

To Justin's point, you need to know player tendencies. A general idea of who is opening loose and who is opening too tight is extremely helpful, but it goes way beyond that. You need to know at a glance if someone is stealing or re-stealing too often (especially short-handed). If someone is 3 betting light, or if they fold to c-bet too much, or they c-bet too often, or they double-barrel a lot...all extremely exploitable and all you have to do is glance at a number to know (provided you have sufficient hand history).

I would go a step further than saying it's helpful and say that if you are playing online without a HUD, you are putting yourself at a major disadvantage due to the amount of players using them against you. Especially if you're multi-tabling.
 

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Another point on the HUD, beyond just knowing other players' tendencies and spotting their leaks, is the ability to analyze your own leaks and fix them. Or, at a minimum, the ability to know your own table image and exploit others' attempts at exploiting you.

Like, if you know that you have 3 bet 20% over 300 hands in this session (super high), expect that all other players using a HUD know this, and you will be getting 4 bet a lot, often by light holdings. Meaning you can 5 bet light and take down some monster pots preflop. Also you would want to make sure to raise your premiums aggressively because you will be getting looked up and/or 4 bet so often. Just one example.
 

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To your OP, I have flopped 3 royals at WPN over ~2.5 millions hands.

I got paid all 3 times too if memory serves. :)
 

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