ttinco, you know how i will prove it. I will prove it when i get that phone call from the higest guy at rio, who is supposed to be calling me soon, and we will get to the bottom of this together very soon. He will investigate with me and use his judgment when he hears my end of the story, and then you will see. I am NOT a scammer once again.
Did a search at MW and found this:
The #1 problem on forums-HOW DO WE STOP IT – Author: TtinCO (MW)
Poster: Sick Gambler
"And regarding IP's, this would NOT work. Just look at me for example, I am at the library now, and IF I was to post now, i can say what I want, and NO one would know it's me. Different area, different IP, different server. So basically, people can just leave their house if they want to say something. Or post by dial up, or have that anonymizer.com thing hooked up. There are just too many ways to have people not find out. As for me, I don't care, because I am only me, SG, that's it. I don't ever ghost post. I don't have to. "
Hmmmm...
The #1 problem on forums-HOW DO WE STOP IT – Author: TtinCO (MW)
Poster: Sick Gambler
"And regarding IP's, this would NOT work. Just look at me for example, I am at the library now, and IF I was to post now, i can say what I want, and NO one would know it's me. Different area, different IP, different server. So basically, people can just leave their house if they want to say something. Or post by dial up, or have that anonymizer.com thing hooked up. There are just too many ways to have people not find out. As for me, I don't care, because I am only me, SG, that's it. I don't ever ghost post. I don't have to. "
Hmmmm...
I don't care if he is guilty as far as Rio is concerned. The point is, SG is a typical cancer to sports gambling sites & deserves to be treated like shit. Sites like these are for intelligent discussions about sportsbooks, picks, etc... but no they turn into soap operas with clowns the likes of SG, etc...
journey, they told me last month that I was guilty, but I still haven't spoken to the main guy there. Until I speak to him, then i will prove my innocence. I only spoke to clerks there. I want this guy to call me because that is when we will get to the bottom of it, and I guarantee you when they do investigate again, they will see where i was coming from..
WHY WOULD A BIG SPORTSBOOK LIKE RIO GET INVOLVED WITH THIS MICKEY MOUSE SCAM I WILL BE REALLY SIRPRISED IF RIO COMES INTO THIS FORUM AND MAKES A JUDGEMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.HOW COME THESE THINGS ONLY HAPPEN TO THE MICKEY MOUSE SPORTSBOOKS.DOES IT EVER HAPPEN TO WSEX,WWTS,PINNACLE,
Is this legit?
After reviewing various wagering accounts, analyzing phone records, email, ip logs, and noticing specific wagering patterns, we began to investigate what seemed like a case of Identity Fraud, and blatant violations of our Bonus Program & Betting Policies.
Rick Cxxxx, a resident of Quebec, Canada, appeared to be holding multiple accounts within our group of companies. IP checks began returning different names, and voice records quickly revealed the fact that it was one single person we were dealing with, and not several. We tracked the phone line he used to call us to match that of another player's account, whose registered name was Andre Hallal. Immediately this search returned another name, AM Munari.
Rick Cxxxx then called inquiring on the status of a payout request he submitted. The caller's identification was required faxed to us prior to processing any further banking transactions. The caller voiced disbelief that we would request such a thing, stating "you mean I got to run around town all day to get that to you?"
Using the name of Rick CXXXXXXX, again this individual entered into a chat session with me, and was again advised that no further transactions would be processed until he submitted a faxed copy of his Identification.
After ending the Live Person chat session, it was decided that we would call the phone number on file for Rick CXXXXXXXX. I asked Rick basic questions regarding his account to which he had no answers. The questions were:
1.. Please repeat your account - DID NOT KNOW 2.. Please repeat your account's - DID NOT KNOW 3.. What is your account's - DID NOT KNOW 4.. What was the last wager you placed this - DID NOT KNOW 5.. Do you recall chatting with me over LivePerson minutes - NO.
Due to the severity of the case, we immediately requested the assistance of NETeller Inc. in our investigations. Neteller Inc confirmed that multiple accounts had in fact been opened under different names from the same IP, proving to us a case of IDENTITY FRAUD & A BLATANT ABUSE OF OUR BONUS PROGRAM.
After the individual was informed that his account was under investigation for fraud, the caller then identified himself as Cxxxx Hxxxx for the first time, and not Rick like he had previously stated. The investigation continued.
After analyzing our sports wagering records, we then found that this person, Claude Hxxxx, was also in VIOLATION OF OUR ESTABLISHED
BETTING POLICIES:
Any Cash Bonus recipient(s) found to be in collusion with other cash bonus account holders to place wagers on opposite sides of a game, utilizing their cash bonus to make such wagers, will be suspended and may be subject to confiscation of funds pending investigation.
Such wagering activity was in fact evident under the accounts in question, and such activities are explicitly prohibited under our Rules and Regulations.
CONCLUSIONS:
1.. Rick has never called to wager with our company. 2.. Rick was not aware of **** purposes. 3.. **** Hxxxx viciously created multiple Neteller and Sportsbook accounts seeking to defraud. 4.. **** Hxxxx acted using another person's identity under deceit.
As per advice from our legal department based on the these findings, we conclude the following:
1.. That all funds deposited under the fraudulent account be refunded within the next 20 business days. 2.. That any remaining balance and bonuses awarded be confiscated according to Rule # 6 of our Cash Bonuses Policies. 3.. That all accounts associated with this person be permanently terminated, immediately.
[This message was edited by The General on August 01, 2003 at 08:42 PM.]
After reviewing various wagering accounts, analyzing phone records, email, ip logs, and noticing specific wagering patterns, we began to investigate what seemed like a case of Identity Fraud, and blatant violations of our Bonus Program & Betting Policies.
Rick Cxxxx, a resident of Quebec, Canada, appeared to be holding multiple accounts within our group of companies. IP checks began returning different names, and voice records quickly revealed the fact that it was one single person we were dealing with, and not several. We tracked the phone line he used to call us to match that of another player's account, whose registered name was Andre Hallal. Immediately this search returned another name, AM Munari.
Rick Cxxxx then called inquiring on the status of a payout request he submitted. The caller's identification was required faxed to us prior to processing any further banking transactions. The caller voiced disbelief that we would request such a thing, stating "you mean I got to run around town all day to get that to you?"
Using the name of Rick CXXXXXXX, again this individual entered into a chat session with me, and was again advised that no further transactions would be processed until he submitted a faxed copy of his Identification.
After ending the Live Person chat session, it was decided that we would call the phone number on file for Rick CXXXXXXXX. I asked Rick basic questions regarding his account to which he had no answers. The questions were:
1.. Please repeat your account - DID NOT KNOW 2.. Please repeat your account's - DID NOT KNOW 3.. What is your account's - DID NOT KNOW 4.. What was the last wager you placed this - DID NOT KNOW 5.. Do you recall chatting with me over LivePerson minutes - NO.
Due to the severity of the case, we immediately requested the assistance of NETeller Inc. in our investigations. Neteller Inc confirmed that multiple accounts had in fact been opened under different names from the same IP, proving to us a case of IDENTITY FRAUD & A BLATANT ABUSE OF OUR BONUS PROGRAM.
After the individual was informed that his account was under investigation for fraud, the caller then identified himself as Cxxxx Hxxxx for the first time, and not Rick like he had previously stated. The investigation continued.
After analyzing our sports wagering records, we then found that this person, Claude Hxxxx, was also in VIOLATION OF OUR ESTABLISHED
BETTING POLICIES:
Any Cash Bonus recipient(s) found to be in collusion with other cash bonus account holders to place wagers on opposite sides of a game, utilizing their cash bonus to make such wagers, will be suspended and may be subject to confiscation of funds pending investigation.
Such wagering activity was in fact evident under the accounts in question, and such activities are explicitly prohibited under our Rules and Regulations.
CONCLUSIONS:
1.. Rick has never called to wager with our company. 2.. Rick was not aware of **** purposes. 3.. **** Hxxxx viciously created multiple Neteller and Sportsbook accounts seeking to defraud. 4.. **** Hxxxx acted using another person's identity under deceit.
As per advice from our legal department based on the these findings, we conclude the following:
1.. That all funds deposited under the fraudulent account be refunded within the next 20 business days. 2.. That any remaining balance and bonuses awarded be confiscated according to Rule # 6 of our Cash Bonuses Policies. 3.. That all accounts associated with this person be permanently terminated, immediately.
[This message was edited by The General on August 01, 2003 at 08:42 PM.]
Sick, if you're playing with someone elses money, with that person's consent, i have no problem with what you're doing. Here is the policy:
"Any Cash Bonus recipient(s) found to be in collusion with other cash bonus account holders to place wagers on opposite sides of a game, utilizing their cash bonus to make such wagers, will be suspended and may be subject to confiscation of funds pending investigation. "
According to them you violated this policy. Correct?
Again, if you're just placing bets, I see NO PROBLEM.
"Any Cash Bonus recipient(s) found to be in collusion with other cash bonus account holders to place wagers on opposite sides of a game, utilizing their cash bonus to make such wagers, will be suspended and may be subject to confiscation of funds pending investigation. "
According to them you violated this policy. Correct?
Again, if you're just placing bets, I see NO PROBLEM.
he never waived all my fees sir. NEVER..i gave him good business, so he helped me a bit with the fees, so what? Throw me in jail!! Like I said, I have nothing to hide, david was a great guy and NETeller has been great too.. BTW, i don't know who you are and who you work for, but I'd love to know. I have an idea by the way why you have such an agenda with me.
Here kenneth, you asked me, here it is. This is just one of the Russ knowing the whole time that I posted with a buddy's name. ( a legit name if i may say)
This happened last year when I was still here and not at MW. Now that I am here again, i am now a scammer, but was NOT a scammer for the last 6 months while posting there. lol This is what your buddy at MW is all about..
The Major
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6115
Joined: Jun 2000
Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:54 PM
Now post the proof or retract your lies. And do it using your real name, not one of your your "scam a book" names.
This happened last year when I was still here and not at MW. Now that I am here again, i am now a scammer, but was NOT a scammer for the last 6 months while posting there. lol This is what your buddy at MW is all about..
The Major
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6115
Joined: Jun 2000
Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:54 PM
Now post the proof or retract your lies. And do it using your real name, not one of your your "scam a book" names.
I don't work for anyone but myself. I have one agenda and that's getting rid of scammers both for books and players.
he never waived all my fees sir. NEVER..i gave him good business, so he helped me a bit with the fees, so what?
Which one is it? He waived fees or he didn't?
I guess he helped you too much that's why he doesn't work there anymore.
he never waived all my fees sir. NEVER..i gave him good business, so he helped me a bit with the fees, so what?
Which one is it? He waived fees or he didn't?
I guess he helped you too much that's why he doesn't work there anymore.
