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WildBill said:
IMO Chargers peaked in the season. I felt very strongly at some point as they were on fire it would cost them and this is a bad spot to go into. I think they are beatable with the right schemes, basically mostly focused on stopping LT's outside runs. If the Pats LBs can keep LT from putting up home runs down the sideline it comes down to Rivers winning the game, something I don't know if I trust him to do.

Anyways most reasonable power ratings have the Pats even or slightly better due to a tougher schedule. I think if anything the line is inflated for the Chargers, but some of it may be worthwhile due to the bye week. I think ML on the Pats is a reasonable value bet. Has zip to do with what they have done in the past, this team is in better form than the Chargers right now, forget about the season long records.


how mch better form than 14-2 can you get and add in it's a home game. Sorry but totally disagree with you. Most NFL playoff games where teams are 1 notch better than other team record wise and at home is a -6 or better. I would think Philly was closer to NO than NE is to SD and you seen the lines, just don't make sense. I think you would be hard pressed to find many people say that NE is at the same level or better than SD right now. if you feel that way that way than you should have a nice play on NE, good luck!!!
 

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WildBill said:
IMO Chargers peaked in the season. I felt very strongly at some point as they were on fire it would cost them and this is a bad spot to go into. I think they are beatable with the right schemes, basically mostly focused on stopping LT's outside runs. If the Pats LBs can keep LT from putting up home runs down the sideline it comes down to Rivers winning the game, something I don't know if I trust him to do.

Anyways most reasonable power ratings have the Pats even or slightly better due to a tougher schedule. I think if anything the line is inflated for the Chargers, but some of it may be worthwhile due to the bye week. I think ML on the Pats is a reasonable value bet. Has zip to do with what they have done in the past, this team is in better form than the Chargers right now, forget about the season long records.

Granted the Chargers had an easy schedule, but if the Pats have a stronger strength of schedule, it ain't by much. They played three playoff teams all year and lost to two of them. Same with the Chargers.

As for peaking early, the Chargers won their last four games by an average of 12 points. They won their previous four by an average margin of 6 points. NE got shut out by Miami of all teams just last month. San Diego hasn't lost since October.

If San Diego plays their game and Schottenheimer stays out of the way, this won't even be close.
 
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Iceman..

Let's win this buddy.. Huge Charger fan here who all season told everyone how good this team was. Tired of the Brady and Belichick talk as well..

Good luck sir and let's have a good day tomorrow..


P.S

Shittenheimer will call some trick plays to keep the Pats on their heels. He has really opened up the playbook this season. Anyone who has seen this team play many times this season knows this..
 

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Iceman..

Let's win this buddy.. Huge Charger fan here who all season told everyone how good this team was. Tired of the Brady and Belichick talk as well..

Good luck sir and let's have a good day tomorrow..

Good Luck to you. Had a great day today so may up the ante a little on SD game tomorrow. I never lay this much in NFL but this just feel right to me, I think SD is very hungry to prove something tomorrow to everyone.
 

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The Saints called a stupid toss play to Reggie Bush and tried to give the game away.

The Iggles punted on 4th down and never got the ball back.

In the Ohio State game, Tressel went for it on 4th down at his own 29 and ended the game right there.

Bill Belichick will NOT make those stupid mistakes in a big game. Marty might.
 

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We may all agree to disagree, but I just think the Chargers are definitely not where they were around the time of the two big 2nd half comebacks. They struggled in a number of games against questionable competition, really putting in just one quality game against Denver at home, in a game with a bit of a misleading score. They struggled to beat the Raiders, Bills, Cardinals and Seahawks, and didn't exactly do much against the Chiefs besides for a couple of long LT runs. This isn't exactly devastating competition we are talking about here, the Chargers were big favorites in all of these games. Rivers has had a number of bad games in the 2nd half of the season, has to be a worry if you lay more than a FG.

You all can argue it all you want, but power ratings are unemotional. Sagarin's pure points predictor says Pats are 2 points better. Usually the NFL lines reflect these ratings fairly closely, when they deviate its almost always a case of a public team or a team coming off a huge win. I normally don't bet dogs in this week of the playoffs, but have a hard time staying away from this one. Once again I am putting almost no stock in what the Pats did years ago, I am looking at exactly what teams are going on the field right now.

I don't care who was better in October or at any of these points far back in the season people want to talk about. I think the Pats are the best team playing and we shall see how my opinion plays out.
 
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Someone just told me something that might be right.

NFL will do whatever they can for a Brady/Manning AFC championship game.

Fvck I hope the refs don't cheat us..
 

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WildBill said:
You all can argue it all you want, but power ratings are unemotional. Sagarin's pure points predictor says Pats are 2 points better.

Sagarin said the ten toughest schedules this past college football season were all Pac 10 teams. Not a single school from any other conference.

I'm just hackin' on ya, Gotta defend my team!

SAN DIEGO SUPER CHARGERS!
 

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Iceman said:
I said at the beginning of the playoffs that I was going to fade San Diego as they became the favorite of the public (IMO) and in a year where no team has emerged as a true favorite I just thought they would be overvalued. Now I think everything has changed as I am almost SICK of hearing the whole Bellechick and Brady angle versus the rookie QB and Marty. If I have to hear this reason again why NE will win I will puke. I don't recall a 14-2 getting less respect as SD has and it is to a team that really isn't anything out of the ordinary.

If New England didn't have the reputation of playing so well in big games than this 14-2 SD team would be a solid 7 point favorite (IMO). I just see a VERY FOCUSED SD team that has something to prove this weekend. Good teams take that next step and this is 2 teams going in the opposite directions (hunger wise espicially and age).

I say hammer SD this weekend and after they look good than turn around and fade them when the bandwagon gets full. Its all about value and I say the value with 14-2 SD at home versus a NE that seems to missing something to me.

so you just bet opposite the public, because if you want value, its with the pats
 

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gynecologist said:
Someone just told me something that might be right.

NFL will do whatever they can for a Brady/Manning AFC championship game.

Fvck I hope the refs don't cheat us..

You got it wrong Gyno. NFL would do anything for a Brees vs his former team matchup, "Miracle of Saints" story, Reggie Bush vs his hometown team story, MVP of the league (LT) vs runner-up (Brees), and stars such as LT and Merriman, and Brees sell jerseys.
 
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whormoan said:
You got it wrong Gyno. NFL would do anything for a Brees vs his former team matchup, "Miracle of Saints" story, Reggie Bush vs his hometown team story, MVP of the league (LT) vs runner-up (Brees), and stars such as LT and Merriman, and Brees sell jerseys.

Sure hope you are right man.. Would love a Saints/Chargers Superbowl!!

:dancefool :dancefool :dancefool :dancefool
 

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pats just do what they do come playoff time...


WIN WIN WIN

see ya in indy next week...
 

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HuskerFan1 said:
pats just do what they do come playoff time...


WIN WIN WIN

see ya in indy next week...

Every week, the other team can't believe how they lost.
 

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