Hypocritical GOP Drug Bill Endorsed by AARP

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One must love the politics of entitlement, where the true colours of both sides of the American political spectrum really come out (i.e., they're all closet socialists who need an ass-beating before breakfast daily.) The Republican bill for the provision of prescription drugs to American seniors has been endorsed by senior advocacy group AARP and, while it faces some challenges in Congress, will most likely pass with flying colours now that it's got the geezer vote.

Medicare, our most bloated and wasteful federal program, is set to spend $ 400 billion in fiscal year 2004, up almost 20% in just four years. The prescription drug bill is designed to address the bizarre notion that somehow this is not enough for American seniors, and should it meet President Bush's requested budgetary guidelines will add another $ 40 billion per year to the figure.

Supporters of bill claim that the bill encourages private competition with Medicare, and that this will help to utilise market pressure to keep the cost of Medicare to the American taxpayer down (yes, they are spending $ 40 billion per year to save money!) But this is where the real error of the logic behind this bill comes in, because it does not move into the free market at all -- except in the twisted sense in which politicians tend to view the market. The oddly dichotomous definition of what constitutes a "free market" can be seen in two key aspects of the bill:

First, the bill provides a $ 12 billion "incentive" subsidy to the managed care industry, in order to encourage them to participate. After the September 11th terrorist attacks, the airline industry was granted a $ 15 billion bailout -- to help offset what was arguably the worst disaster to airline travel in its history. While the suitability or lack thereof of that largesse is a topic for another time, it is noteworthy that one industry's "disaster relief" is another's "incentive." Further, such subsidies serve to seperate consumption from cost and therefore run counter to market forces, not with them -- because when consumption is seperated from cost, the law of supply and demand is compromised irreparably.

Second, the bill leaves in effect the ban on the import of Canadian prescription medications, which can often be obtained more cheaply than American. If the federal government is concerned enough about the ability of American seniors to obtain affordable prescription drugs, why do they persist in placing this obstacle in the way of what must surely be thousands if not tens of thousands of Americans -- senior and otherwise -- who would avail themselves of lower-cost drugs north of the border, if only they were allowed to do so?

The GOP might be selling something with a label on it that says "competition," but the bill that is being introduced to Congress this week is anything but that under the surface -- in fact, with a $ 12 billion subsidy to private careholders, $ 40 billion per year added to Medicare-related expenditures, and a prohibitive ban on a solution to the very problem which the bill claims to address, it reads more like another step twards socialised medicine than away from it. And with the force of the special interest poster children the AARP behind it, the bill is almost certain to pass -- just another day in politics, another direlection of duty and breach of the limits of power of government.


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This bill has passed through the House, on a suprisingly narrow 220-215 vote. Senate Democrats have threatened a filibuster when the bill reaches the Senate next week ... I hate it when I agree with Democrats.

President Bush praised the passage of the bill in his radio address, which is a fairly concise indication of his lack of basic math skills, understanding of economics, or acquaintance with the principles of conservatism, the spend-happy little bitch.

I imagine that this bill's passage into law is all but a foregone conclusion at this point. Just refer back to this thread next year when Congress is beating its chest about some new legislation that they have that is going to "save and modernise" Medicare, and when they do it in 2005, and 2006, and 2007 ...


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Nice read,Phad...and i agree with you, the thing that I have to laugh at is how the dems are kicking and screaming that the bill does not go far enough...but what they are really screaming about is the fact that there is another issue gone for them to bitch and whine about,leaving them even more irrelevent than the buggy whip.
Another point your right on is when I voted for Bush, it was because he ran as a conservative when nothing could be further from the truth.Goverment is bigger than ever.
 

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I agree completely. Nothing pissed me off on TV more recently than those stupid AARP commercials "Congress promised us this law". Screw them. As with anything else in this world if you make things cheaper you certainly don't encourage conservation. Problem is these days that drug companies make many drugs with sometimes dubious levels of effectiveness and doctors go right along with the concept by prescribing them because their patients often have to pay little for them. The patients that can't afford them as much as those covered cry foul and say they want the same coverage at a price they can afford. Seniors being a growing group of influence that votes and puts money in Congress' pockets says give me give me give me. At some point the chain of waste has to stop. Adding an entitlement that will surely bankrupt the country further is horrible policy. The problem isn't access to drugs as much as it is too much access to drugs. Taking 3 types of medication in the hopes that one of them keeps someone alive may seem compassionate, but it really isn't proven to do much. Once you get old there are many things that could kill you and saying you might be adding some quality of life for a drug that is rather expensive is dubious policy. Sorry I know we should cherish and value life but the way we are going we will be a nation of many infirmed people barely alive, but alive thanks to drugs. The healthy will pay a heavy cost for this if we keep going down this path.
 

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Gotta keep those faces on the elderly smiling no matter if they have to take prozac or not. Stupid bill - big waste.
 

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Yet another financial disaster in the making. The country is already broke and spending grows at a frightening pace - more debt being passed on to the next generation. How pathetic is it to see older people groveling for more more more from the young when they've had a lifetime to prepare.

It is going to be extremely difficult for me to vote for Bush again since he and the Republican Congress have been a complete and utter disappointment. They are spending our money like there is no tomorrow - actually borrowing it to spend. It is got to end, but won't until we undergo the equivalent of a financial earthquake in this country which will reverberate throughout the world.
 

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geezer vote in reality. A huge number of AARP members are pissed and quitting AARP over their stance, including a friend of mine. It's just a high level corporate lobby-style manipulation, like most everything that goes on in your bought and paid for congress these days.
 

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I happened to catch one of the AARP endorsement commercials while watching the news last week; it was nauseating. "Congress promised us this legislation, and Congress has delivered. President Bush is the Way and the Light. Drink more Powerade."

Something like that.


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AARP is essentially a Insurance Company, this bill is about more money for private insurance. Who do you think was truly behind the illegal driver liscene's bill in California? Insurance Companies, the scourge of this country.
 

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I was walking in DC yesterday and went right by the AARP building. Some guy behind me said to someone walking with him "when are they going to admit it stands for All About Reaping Profits"? I laughed out loud at that one, I loved it. Turns out the guy is a staffer for John McCain, who at least is one of the few Republicans speaking out against the black hole that Congress is becoming.
 

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It's amazing how this has unfolded ... the OMB and adminsitration budget figures were at odds with one another by well over $ 100 billion, a top Medicare cost analyst in the Bush adminstration has testified that the costs were deliberately misrepresented, and now Republican representatives are trying to block a subpoena of Tom Scully, the man who allegedly held back the data.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Officials won't have to testify about drug bill
By Amy Fagan
The Washington Times

Republicans yesterday prevented two Bush administration officials from being forced to testify about last year's cost estimates for the Medicare prescription-drug bill, blocking Democrats efforts to question them about higher cost forecasts some legislators think were covered up.

Democrats tried to subpoena testimony from Doug Badger, special assistant to President Bush for Economic Policy, and Thomas A. Scully, former administrator of the Health and Human Services' Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services — both of whom had declined to testify before the Ways and Means Committee yesterday.

Republicans defeated the Democrats' subpoena requests on two party-line votes of 23-16.

"There is no way you are going to shut down discussions of these issues," Rep. Sander M. Levin, Michigan Democrat, said as the subpoena was voted down.

"Get real here," Rep. Jim McCrery, Louisiana Republican, responded. "This is a lot about politics."

Last week, Richard S. Foster, the administration's top Medicare cost expert, testified that his former superior, Mr. Scully, wouldn't let Mr. Foster provide lawmakers with higher cost estimates for parts of the Medicare bill as it was being crafted last summer.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Story continued here.

Forgive me if I am mistaken, but isn't this the same Republican Congress that is so big on accountability and being forthright?


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This 'major', 'landmark' legislation is indeed a sterling example of Washington doing absolutely nothing to help the public while doing everything to protect the bigg corporate drug dealers.

It's all good.

With each passing day, week, month into the 21st century, the genie is out of the bottle.

Drug distribution cannot be 'controlled' by any existing form of government law enforcement.

****** regulations going either way (from U.S. to Canada or reverse) call for anything of one ounce or less to go thru without inspection.

So all you do is send blister packs of a dozen pills at a time, and no one is the wiser.

Literally tens of thousands, and maybe more, packages of drugs cross the borders daily via the ****** services.
 

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The word P-O-S-T-A-L gets edited here?

WTF?
 

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Barman, I saw a story on this on a TV show. Most of the major ports of entry have screening that x-rays all shipments sent internationally. They were just at the JFK airport site, but they are hundreds of others. They see the pills all the time and they are set aside, often times just to be returned to the sender. The guy admitted a good amount of stuff probably sneaks in, but they know that they are sending back hundreds or thousands of shipments every day so it isn't all that easy to sneak them in. Wish it were that easy, but of course the Feds have a financially vested interest in this as we all know.
 

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Bill, I am reasonably certain that on first class mail of 1 oz or less, there is literally no way they can Xray it all.

There's hundreds of thousands of pieces (or millions) daily. It's all combined in giant mailbags.

I know for sure that Canadian law does not allow them to do any inspection of 1oz or less postage.

A blisterpack of a dozen pills would weigh less than an ounce. It's a slow way to deliver volume, but it helps them to circumvent the system.
 

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Well ... a year later and the old, wrinkly worm has turned ...


AARP Draws Line on Overhauling Social Security

by Robert Pear
The New York Times

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Gearing up for battle over the future of Social Security, AARP said Thursday it opposes President Bush's plan to divert some payroll taxes into private retirement accounts but supports new incentives for private accounts that supplement it.

Working closely with Congress and the White House, the influential lobby for older Americans helped shape legislation adding drug benefits to Medicare last year. Social Security is an even bigger issue, politically and financially, and Congress members said making major changes in Social Security over AARP's objections is unlikely.

Marie F. Smith, president of the organization, said, "AARP adamantly opposes replacing any part of Social Security with individual accounts."

John C. Rother, policy director of AARP, said, "We favor private accounts when they are in addition to Social Security, but not as a substitute."

In general, Social Security payroll taxes are credited to the Social Security trust funds, and revenues not needed to pay benefits in the current year are invested in government securities. White House officials and many Republicans in Congress say workers could get higher rates of return if some of their retirement savings were invested in private stocks and bonds rather than in government securities.

The fight over Social Security, pitting Bush's vision of an "ownership society" against the Democrats' determination to preserve a cornerstone of the New Deal, is reflected in a battle over the proper terminology. The White House dislikes the word "privatization," which it sees as a misleading and imprecise way to describe Bush's ideas. Democrats insist that the term is accurate.

E-mail messages circulated within AARP in recent weeks indicated that the group would avoid the word whenever possible. One message, by an editor of an AARP magazine, says, "There is a new forbidden word at AARP: Social Security privatization."

David M. Certner, director of federal affairs at AARP, said "privatization" had no fixed meaning or definition. To some people, he said, it means "getting rid of the entire program" -- a goal not favored by the White House.

The Cato Institute, a libertarian research center, established a Project on Social Security Privatization in 1995, but in 2002 it was renamed the Project on Social Security Choice.

"Republicans in Congress do not like the word 'privatization' because it does not poll well," said Michael Tanner, director of the project. "The word polls more poorly than the actual concept, in part because people do not understand what it means."

Martis J. Davis, a spokesman for AARP, said the organization was sensitive to the views of younger workers and retirees.

"Younger people think private accounts make sense," he said. "Polls by some organizations suggest that young people believe in flying saucers more than in Social Security. We have a problem with that. We don't want to end up being perceived as dinosaurs, and we don't want to be labeled as greedy geezers, because we are not."
 

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All of you are wrong on this -

First - the drug companies - ask yourself a few questions -
1. where's all of the drug development taking place?
- Most new drug development occurs in the US.
2. What's the cost to develop and bring a drug to the marketplace, and how long does the process take - AT IT'S FASTEST?
- There's the R&D phase, and then there's clinicals, where the drug is testedon people, and there's the reams, close to truckloads of documentation that goes into supporting all of the steps of the drug, and then, if the FDA approves the drug, there's the manufacturing and marketing side.
Average cost to develop a drug from scratch - from about 10 million to about 750 million - depending on the complexity of the molecule and ease of manufacturing the drug in a cGMP environment. From inception to completion, getting a new drug to market takes about 30 months - at it's Fastest! The more complex a molecule is, the longer it takes,and the more it costs to get the drug to market.
3. Exclusivity for 10 or more years to market a new drug is a deal that the FDA set up with the drug companies to ensure that there is a flow of new drugs to the market place. After about 10 years, the generic phase takes over and the drug generally drops in price.
Re,mebre that the marletplace would not have the large number of new and improved drugs if there were no incentive to the drug companies.

Quality of life - four points here
1. As you age, the quality of life starts to suffer - and drugs help to improve the quality of life - from heart attack and stroke to epilepsy, diabetes and other ailments, the drug companies have nearly eliminated the destructive side of these ailments - keeping people more healthy.
2. As you age, your income becomes more and more "fixed" those new, expensive drugs that you need to keep you out of the grave and out of the nursing home cost a lot of money - especially as the number of drugs increase as you age and gain more infirmities.
3. Consider the age to which people klive longer, healthier, more productive lives. this has happened because of drugs - catastophic events are less likely to occur and destroy a families economic well being.
4. How amny of you have a mother or a father or some other loved one that is already dependent on one drug or another to maintain their health. Would you deny them access to the drugs that they might need to live a worry and pain free life?

You can read all of the stats and twist them to mean anything you want - call it all of the evil names you want, but this pharmacy bill might help keep that loved one healthy and living in a decent lifestyle, rather than sick or broke )(or both).

If both sides hate it, it must be good!
 

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I don't really follow what these points have to do with the original post or its follow-ups, or how they demonstrate that we're all wrong.

The point I was making in my original post last year was that far from a step in the direction of increased competition in health care (and therefore lower costs for consumers) the bill in question was nothing more than another entitlement thrown on the heap of one of our most wasteful and inefficient government programs. I don't dispute much of what you're saying here, but I don't really see how it is relevant to the post, especially in the context of it "proving me wrong."


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I always knew you were a socialist BB, ya cheese eating surrender monkey.
 

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From "about $ 400 billion" to "over $ 500 billion" to "$ 724 billion"

Wow!

Why oh why won't our government spend any money on health care? Why?

What's even more amazing is that Bush is now criticising the plan he wholeheartedly endorsed:

There's no question that there is an unfunded liability inherent in Medicare that Congress and the administration is going to have to deal with over time ... Once we modernize and save Social Security for a young generation of Americans, then it'll be time to deal with the unfunded liabilities of Medicare.

(from the linked story)

Wow.


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