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Whats the amount we've been WASTING in Iraq these past 6 years? I honestly don't know so i'm trusting the board to fill in the blanks. for the amount of money spent there what could've been spent here?

Certainly this $700 billion dollar bailout could've been paid for in how many months of war?

What could've we done with the money wasted these passed 6 years?
 

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If it wasn't for the war and illegal immigration, we would be close to a balanced budget.
 

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0 dollars would have been better spent.

The plan is and always has been to keep the Govt. indebted to the Fed.Res.

If we are not wasting billions on the military then we are wasting billions on social programs.
 

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0 dollars would have been better spent.

The plan is and always has been to keep the Govt. indebted to the Fed.Res.

If we are not wasting billions on the military then we are wasting billions on social programs.

Well, so we wouldn'tve spent money on buidling new schools, providing in infrastructure, building the health care system, SHIT! PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THE BANKS thus having credit available. More jobs.

I mean you mean to tell me none of that war money would've have been spent on any of the above?? Shit haven't you noticed that even at the municiple level, speed limits have subtly dropped from 25 to 20? Bridge tolls have gone up almost 300% in the last 4 years?

I mean c'mon. On top of the $850 Billion used for this bailout, the tab on this war is gonna be due as well. I have a feeling that check is going to be double the bailout amount.

I think the Germans were right that in saying the U.S. is now losings its might as an economic superpower. You know come to think about it. all this bullshit about the surge working is bullshit. I think Al Quaeda won. Seriously, think about. They attack us, we go into a multi billion if not trillion dollar war. Our economy at home goes to shit. And in the end we still haven't found Osama after all this time.

Dunno about you, but i looks to me like they're getting the last laugh.
 

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Well, so we wouldn'tve spent money on buidling new schools, providing in infrastructure, building the health care system, SHIT! PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THE BANKS thus having credit available. More jobs.

I mean you mean to tell me none of that war money would've have been spent on any of the above?? Shit haven't you noticed that even at the municiple level, speed limits have subtly dropped from 25 to 20? Bridge tolls have gone up almost 300% in the last 4 years?

I mean c'mon. On top of the $850 Billion used for this bailout, the tab on this war is gonna be due as well. I have a feeling that check is going to be double the bailout amount.

I think the Germans were right that in saying the U.S. is now losings its might as an economic superpower. You know come to think about it. all this bullshit about the surge working is bullshit. I think Al Quaeda won. Seriously, think about. They attack us, we go into a multi billion if not trillion dollar war. Our economy at home goes to shit. And in the end we still haven't found Osama after all this time.

Dunno about you, but i looks to me like they're getting the last laugh.
Illegal immigration costs us much more then the Iraq war.
 

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quote=guitarjosh;5832451]Illegal immigration costs us much more then the Iraq war.[/quote]

Ok..so after looking at different sights I'll get the most recent estimate. This coming from the National Review, they quote the following.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTUyZjY3NzExYjIxODU0NmVmYWE4MTAxNTZlOWJkNDk=&w=MQ==

And that means something for the immigration debate, and for George W. Bush’s proposals. “Every one of these [reform] bills envisions bringing in millions and millions of additional low-skill immigrants with the right to access welfare and become citizens,” says Rector. “Within ten years, you would have four million of these individuals, each of whom can bring family. You’d be looking at a cost of $80 billion per year.” Perhaps Congress and the president will decide to do that. But if Robert Rector is correct, no one should underestimate the cost.

And as for the tab on the war? This taken from the Congressional Budget Office
http://www.endiraqwarnow.org/costs.htm
Financial Costs
While difficult to give you an exact number we can provide relevant facts and an estimate of money spent on Iraq to date and what it will cost if we continue on the current course.
- To date we have spent $503 billion on funding wars with Iraq and Afghanistan.
- Iraq is by far where the majority of this money is spent. Let's say 75%.
- Including the Bush administration's requests for 2007 and 2008 the total war funding will be $746 billion.
Given these assumptions:
- We've spent $503 x 0.75 = $377 billion on Iraq to date.
- We will spend $746 x 0.75 = $560 billion on Iraq through 2008 unless we change course now.
- There's $560 - $377 = $183 billion on the line that we can invest more intelligently elsewhere.
Source: Congressional Budget Office

So...an estimated forcast in 10 years from now would be $80 billion on immigration annually vs $560 billion through 6 years in Iraq.

Looks like your wrong guitarjosh.
 

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ok..so nobody wants any part of this thread?

$560 billion spent on the war vs $850 billion in bailout??

shit man don't get it twisted. This stupid war bankrupted this country and Al Quaeda is sitting back watching cause they're plans worked.
 
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why do we need to save money? spending money is what makes the world go round........:aktion033
 

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Is it me or does anyone see money having no value unless its in the hands of everyday people. Ever since the beginning of our history, whenever our country needs money to go to war or the economy we just get the money and add to our debt. But we will never pay our debt so what the hell is the big deal about how much we spend in war?
 
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You are an idiot if you don't recognize that spending money makes the world go round.

We disagree on where the money should be spent. That's about it.:youmad:
 

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Whats the amount we've been WASTING in Iraq these past 6 years? I honestly don't know so i'm trusting the board to fill in the blanks. for the amount of money spent there what could've been spent here?

Certainly this $700 billion dollar bailout could've been paid for in how many months of war?

What could've we done with the money wasted these passed 6 years?

That all the money could have been spent at home goes without saying. How wisely it would have been spent is open to conjecture. I suspect at least half would have went to pork.
 

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I think most of us would be happy to see federal spending on various domestic pork projects rather than seeing hundreds of billions of US tax dollars on killing people in Iraq.
 
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I think most of us would be happy to see federal spending on various domestic pork projects rather than seeing hundreds of billions of US tax dollars on killing people in Iraq.

Go back and read the title of the thread again. It says "spent wisely".

Since when has this government ever spent money wisely? Whether it's spent on war, health care, bridges to nowhere, and on and on and on.

Criminals in the House and Senate don't spend money wisely. Not a dime. Never have and likely never will.
 
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Ok..so after looking at different sights I'll get the most recent estimate. This coming from the National Review, they quote the following.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTUyZjY3NzExYjIxODU0NmVmYWE4MTAxNTZlOWJkNDk=&w=MQ==



And as for the tab on the war? This taken from the Congressional Budget Office
http://www.endiraqwarnow.org/costs.htm


So...an estimated forcast in 10 years from now would be $80 billion on immigration annually vs $560 billion through 6 years in Iraq.

Looks like your wrong guitarjosh.
I think you should re-read the article:
Rector found that in 2004, the most recent year for which figures are available, low-skill households received an average of $32,138 per household — the great majority in the form of means-tested aid and direct benefits. (Rector excluded from that figure the cost of public goods and interest; with those included, he says, each low-skill household receives an average of $43,084.) Against that, Rector found that low-skill households paid an average of $9,689 in taxes. (The biggest chunk of that was the Social Security tax — $2,509 — followed by state and local taxes, consumption taxes, property taxes, and federal income taxes, but Rector counted everything, including highway levies and lottery purchases.) In the final calculation, he found, the average low-skill household received $22,449 more in benefits than it paid in taxes — the $32,138 in benefits, excluding public goods, minus the $9,689 in taxes.

Taking that $22,449, and multiplying it by the 17.7 million low-skill households, Rector found that the total deficit for such households was $397 billion in 2004. “Over the next ten years the total cost of low-skill households to the taxpayer (immediate benefits minus taxes paid) is likely to be at least $3.9 trillion,” Rector writes. “This number would go up significantly if changes in immigration policy lead to substantial increases in the number of low-skill immigrants entering the country and receiving services.”
The quote you threw up there was 80 billion in addition to the 397 billion they're already spending.

Here is another article for you:

http://www.aspenpost.net/2008/05/09...ien-costs-annually-health-and-human-services/

They don't have it quite as high, but still over 300 billion a year to illegals.
 

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