to be fair.. in what scenerio ever would you have to rape someone to help family?
kill, I understand the no on your part.. me personally it would depend on circumstances.. I mean if someone killed my nieces in cold blood I know 100% I would look for them to do damage.. but I am more the type that would want them to do long term suffering for what they did.. so after they are left in a bloody mess, then the cops would be called before death. uff_>>